eclipse5302
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Then maybe this should be re-worded
Can you please elaborate on the relationship of the record size to the fio test results vs. real world workloads?Not recommended, a default that doesn't suck too much for most cases. This is something that should absolutely be tuned according to the workload.
Thanks! Glad to hear that iSCSI is still fast, that will definitely be the go-to for VM workloads. Now I just need to create a VMware 7 initiator for TrueNAS....What is your record size set for? With 128k being the recommended size, performance seemed to be capped as you found. I ended up going to 16k record size to get decent performance.
With 16k record size:
fio --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=4k
4ktest: Laying out IO file (1 file / 4096MiB)
Jobs: 8 (f=8): [r(8)][100.0%][r=2822MiB/s][r=722k IOPS][eta 00m:00s]
4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=10750: Mon Apr 10 07:23:27 2023
read: IOPS=719k, BW=2810MiB/s (2947MB/s)(32.0GiB/11660msec)
clat (usec): min=2, max=2670, avg=10.65, stdev=21.41
lat (usec): min=2, max=2670, avg=10.68, stdev=21.41
clat percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[ 6], 5.00th=[ 6], 10.00th=[ 6], 20.00th=[ 7],
| 30.00th=[ 7], 40.00th=[ 7], 50.00th=[ 8], 60.00th=[ 8],
| 70.00th=[ 9], 80.00th=[ 10], 90.00th=[ 12], 95.00th=[ 18],
| 99.00th=[ 118], 99.50th=[ 157], 99.90th=[ 306], 99.95th=[ 375],
| 99.99th=[ 494]
bw ( MiB/s): min= 2749, max= 2902, per=100.00%, avg=2814.20, stdev= 5.04, samples=176
iops : min=703811, max=743039, avg=720430.77, stdev=1291.25, samples=176
lat (usec) : 4=0.13%, 10=84.69%, 20=11.20%, 50=2.38%, 100=0.59%
lat (usec) : 250=0.83%, 500=0.17%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01%
lat (msec) : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%
cpu : usr=5.81%, sys=94.14%, ctx=4195, majf=0, minf=0
IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=8388608,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
READ: bw=2810MiB/s (2947MB/s), 2810MiB/s-2810MiB/s (2947MB/s-2947MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=11660-11660msec
After that, NFS performance was still terrible (compared to identical settings on the R720xd). iSCSI performance is excellent. So now we're running iSCSI.
Any marginal gains would be quickly offset by greater protocol overheads and fewer available IOPS - again, more blocks, more trouble.What about going the other way and setting it to 8k so it fits within the controller chip buffer per block? would that allow the driver to desynchronize load/offload to bus vs to drives? I don't have the LSI architecture manual for the 3008 (I'll have to go hunt for it) so I'm guessing how I would build the bus I/O buffers if I were designing it.
Thanks for the insight.Well, we could go down a long discussion, but I'm out of time, so here's the tl;dr:
Most of the time, you want the largest block size that will not cause excessive write amplification. Smaller blocks means more blocks, which means more IOPS for the same bandwidth, more metadata to store/read; in addition worse compression, incompatibilities with wide RAIDZ vdevs, etc.
Any marginal gains would be quickly offset by greater protocol overheads and fewer available IOPS - again, more blocks, more trouble.
I've been reading through your thread as I'm having the same issue. I just upgraded to the HBA330 hoping for amazing performance but not getting it.Hello all,
I've looked around and tried everything I can think of, but I can't figure this out. I have an R720 with a 4-vdev mirror flash pool (8 SATA drives 400GB), and running fio on the hoist itself shows expected results of 500k IOPS and 1300MB/s. This host only has 64GB of memory, 2 Xeon 2690s, and I believe a Dell H310 flashed to IT mode. Not 100% on that last part, but it definitely has a regular HBA and not a RAID card pretending to be a HBA.
fio --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=4k 4ktest: (g=0): rw=rw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=128
I'm upgrading this to a Dell R730xd with 384GB of memory, 2 Xeon 2667s, a Dell HBA330, and (24) 400GB SAS flash drives. Running the same fio command, I can't get this system to exceed 150k IOPS no matter what. I started by creating a 12-vdev flash pool, and when that performance was poor, I re-created the same 4-vdev flash pool as the old server. Even a single vdev flash pool can only hit 150k IOPS. All BIOS/FW is up to date, and I tried different versions of TrueNAS without success. I tried other drives, and they too are limited by this 150k IOPS limit. I even took 2 of these drives out and put them in the R720, created a single mirror pool, and that could easily hit 220k IOPS.
Any idea what is going on here?
I've been reading through your thread as I'm having the same issue. I just upgraded to the HBA330 hoping for amazing performance but not getting it.
Trying to optimize performance for VM storage. I'll open a new thread after I do more research.
Thank you
fio --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=4k
Note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
Jobs: 4 (f=4): [_(1),r(1),_(1),r(3),_(2)][95.5%][r=1581MiB/s][r=405k IOPS][eta 00m:01s] 4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=86019: Thu Jan 11 18:04:13 2024 read: IOPS=412k, BW=1608MiB/s (1686MB/s)(32.0GiB/20384msec) clat (usec): min=2, max=773, avg=18.30, stdev=18.25 lat (usec): min=2, max=773, avg=18.33, stdev=18.25 clat percentiles (nsec): | 1.00th=[ 5152], 5.00th=[ 5792], 10.00th=[ 6176], 20.00th=[ 6688], | 30.00th=[ 7072], 40.00th=[ 7520], 50.00th=[ 8032], 60.00th=[ 8896], | 70.00th=[10816], 80.00th=[42752], 90.00th=[48896], 95.00th=[53504], | 99.00th=[62208], 99.50th=[65280], 99.90th=[72192], 99.95th=[75264], | 99.99th=[86528] bw ( MiB/s): min= 1264, max= 2761, per=100.00%, avg=1637.72, stdev=27.87, samples=312 iops : min=323780, max=706900, avg=419256.14, stdev=7134.94, samples=312 lat (usec) : 4=0.10%, 10=67.34%, 20=6.48%, 50=17.22%, 100=8.85% lat (usec) : 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01% cpu : usr=5.98%, sys=93.99%, ctx=1102, majf=0, minf=317 IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0% submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% issued rwts: total=8388608,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0 latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128 Run status group 0 (all jobs): READ: bw=1608MiB/s (1686MB/s), 1608MiB/s-1608MiB/s (1686MB/s-1686MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=20384-20384msec
fio --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=libaio --size=4G --bs=4k 4ktest: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=libaio, iodepth=128 ... fio-3.33 Starting 8 processes Jobs: 5 (f=5): [r(1),_(1),r(1),_(1),r(1),_(1),r(2)][100.0%][r=1549MiB/s][r=396k IOPS][eta 00m:00s] 4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=86462: Thu Jan 11 18:06:15 2024 read: IOPS=381k, BW=1487MiB/s (1559MB/s)(32.0GiB/22041msec) slat (usec): min=3, max=872, avg=18.85, stdev=18.73 clat (usec): min=2, max=5196, avg=2581.88, stdev=438.97 lat (usec): min=7, max=5235, avg=2600.74, stdev=441.96 clat percentiles (usec): | 1.00th=[ 1188], 5.00th=[ 1647], 10.00th=[ 2057], 20.00th=[ 2311], | 30.00th=[ 2442], 40.00th=[ 2540], 50.00th=[ 2638], 60.00th=[ 2704], | 70.00th=[ 2802], 80.00th=[ 2933], 90.00th=[ 3064], 95.00th=[ 3195], | 99.00th=[ 3425], 99.50th=[ 3490], 99.90th=[ 3654], 99.95th=[ 3720], | 99.99th=[ 3851] bw ( MiB/s): min= 1428, max= 2541, per=100.00%, avg=1524.20, stdev=25.36, samples=337 iops : min=365744, max=650692, avg=390194.50, stdev=6491.19, samples=337 lat (usec) : 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.01%, 100=0.01% lat (usec) : 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.24% lat (msec) : 2=8.91%, 4=90.84%, 10=0.01% cpu : usr=8.60%, sys=91.37%, ctx=1173, majf=0, minf=340 IO depths : 1=0.1%, 2=0.1%, 4=0.1%, 8=0.1%, 16=0.1%, 32=0.1%, >=64=100.0% submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.1% issued rwts: total=8388608,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0 latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128 Run status group 0 (all jobs): READ: bw=1487MiB/s (1559MB/s), 1487MiB/s-1487MiB/s (1559MB/s-1559MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=22041-22041msec
I suppose so, but psync caps your IO depth to 1 in both.Is that because I'm on Scale instead of Core?
Your question reminded me that I hadn't performed any benchmarks in quite a while, so I ran some again just now.I've been reading through your thread as I'm having the same issue. I just upgraded to the HBA330 hoping for amazing performance but not getting it.
Dell R730xd with 256GB of memory, 2 Xeon 2670s, a Dell HBA330, and (24) 600GB SAS 10k drives
Like you, I've tried various drives and array configs but just can't get good performance.
Did you ever find a solution?
root@truenas[/home/admin]# fio --directory=/mnt/P3700s/speed --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=4k
4ktest: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=128
...
fio-3.33
Starting 8 processes
4ktest: Laying out IO file (1 file / 4096MiB)
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
Jobs: 3 (f=3): [_(2),r(1),_(1),r(1),_(2),r(1)][95.8%][r=1593MiB/s][r=408k IOPS][eta 00m:01s]
4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=10672: Wed Mar 13 10:31:54 2024
read: IOPS=373k, BW=1455MiB/s (1526MB/s)(32.0GiB/22514msec)
clat (usec): min=2, max=1623, avg=20.24, stdev=11.07
lat (usec): min=3, max=1623, avg=20.30, stdev=11.09
clat percentiles (nsec):
| 1.00th=[ 6752], 5.00th=[ 7904], 10.00th=[ 8640], 20.00th=[10176],
| 30.00th=[16768], 40.00th=[19584], 50.00th=[21120], 60.00th=[22912],
| 70.00th=[24704], 80.00th=[27264], 90.00th=[30080], 95.00th=[32384],
| 99.00th=[36608], 99.50th=[38656], 99.90th=[42752], 99.95th=[44800],
| 99.99th=[62208]
bw ( MiB/s): min= 1294, max= 2032, per=100.00%, avg=1486.29, stdev=15.09, samples=347
iops : min=331390, max=520222, avg=380491.31, stdev=3862.71, samples=347
lat (usec) : 4=0.01%, 10=19.18%, 20=23.64%, 50=57.15%, 100=0.01%
lat (usec) : 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%
lat (msec) : 2=0.01%
cpu : usr=6.66%, sys=93.33%, ctx=483, majf=12, minf=474
IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=8388608,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
READ: bw=1455MiB/s (1526MB/s), 1455MiB/s-1455MiB/s (1526MB/s-1526MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=22514-22514msec
Raid Z2 test BS=128k (to match array size)root@truenas[/home/admin]# fio --directory=/mnt/lambo/NAS --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=4k
4ktest: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=128
...
fio-3.33
Starting 8 processes
4ktest: Laying out IO file (1 file / 4096MiB)
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
Jobs: 2 (f=2): [_(3),r(1),E(1),r(1),_(2)][96.4%][r=460MiB/s][r=118k IOPS][eta 00m:02s]
4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=11451: Wed Mar 13 10:42:40 2024
read: IOPS=157k, BW=612MiB/s (642MB/s)(32.0GiB/53521msec)
clat (usec): min=3, max=1909, avg=47.15, stdev=29.16
lat (usec): min=3, max=1909, avg=47.32, stdev=29.17
clat percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[ 7], 5.00th=[ 9], 10.00th=[ 9], 20.00th=[ 10],
| 30.00th=[ 52], 40.00th=[ 55], 50.00th=[ 56], 60.00th=[ 58],
| 70.00th=[ 62], 80.00th=[ 64], 90.00th=[ 67], 95.00th=[ 70],
| 99.00th=[ 78], 99.50th=[ 92], 99.90th=[ 302], 99.95th=[ 326],
| 99.99th=[ 627]
bw ( KiB/s): min=171440, max=1320280, per=100.00%, avg=653719.04, stdev=12850.57, samples=812
iops : min=42860, max=330070, avg=163429.73, stdev=3212.63, samples=812
lat (usec) : 4=0.01%, 10=20.83%, 20=5.50%, 50=1.04%, 100=72.21%
lat (usec) : 250=0.26%, 500=0.15%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01%
lat (msec) : 2=0.01%
cpu : usr=4.99%, sys=95.00%, ctx=1606, majf=0, minf=419
IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=8388608,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
READ: bw=612MiB/s (642MB/s), 612MiB/s-612MiB/s (642MB/s-642MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=53521-53521msec
READ: bw=612MiB/s (642MB/s), 612MiB/s-612MiB/s (642MB/s-642MB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=53521-53521msec
root@truenas[/home/admin]# fio --directory=/mnt/lambo/NAS --filename=test --direct=1 --rw=randrw --randrepeat=0 --rwmixread=100 --iodepth=128 --numjobs=8 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=4ktest --ioengine=psync --size=4G --bs=128k
4ktest: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 128KiB-128KiB, (W) 128KiB-128KiB, (T) 128KiB-128KiB, ioengine=psync, iodepth=128
...
fio-3.33
Starting 8 processes
4ktest: Laying out IO file (1 file / 4096MiB)
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
note: both iodepth >= 1 and synchronous I/O engine are selected, queue depth will be capped at 1
Jobs: 8 (f=8): [r(8)][-.-%][r=15.4GiB/s][r=126k IOPS][eta 00m:00s]
4ktest: (groupid=0, jobs=8): err= 0: pid=11812: Wed Mar 13 10:45:01 2024
read: IOPS=85.2k, BW=10.4GiB/s (11.2GB/s)(32.0GiB/3076msec)
clat (usec): min=18, max=1993, avg=86.68, stdev=73.14
lat (usec): min=18, max=1993, avg=86.82, stdev=73.16
clat percentiles (usec):
| 1.00th=[ 30], 5.00th=[ 32], 10.00th=[ 34], 20.00th=[ 44],
| 30.00th=[ 63], 40.00th=[ 65], 50.00th=[ 68], 60.00th=[ 72],
| 70.00th=[ 76], 80.00th=[ 81], 90.00th=[ 210], 95.00th=[ 253],
| 99.00th=[ 330], 99.50th=[ 338], 99.90th=[ 644], 99.95th=[ 717],
| 99.99th=[ 1352]
bw ( MiB/s): min= 4405, max=15856, per=100.00%, avg=10705.10, stdev=578.88, samples=40
iops : min=35246, max=126854, avg=85640.80, stdev=4631.01, samples=40
lat (usec) : 20=0.01%, 50=20.90%, 100=66.13%, 250=7.82%, 500=4.98%
lat (usec) : 750=0.15%, 1000=0.01%
lat (msec) : 2=0.02%
cpu : usr=2.78%, sys=97.26%, ctx=82, majf=0, minf=154
IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
issued rwts: total=262144,0,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=128
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
READ: bw=10.4GiB/s (11.2GB/s), 10.4GiB/s-10.4GiB/s (11.2GB/s-11.2GB/s), io=32.0GiB (34.4GB), run=3076-3076msec
I believe so @homer27081990 . The specific hardware I tried originally had a gen1 mainboard (with, as it turns out, a bad iDRAC), and performance with the same disks and controller was significantly lower than with the gen3 board. We never figured out if that was the iDRAC interfering with BIOS settings, the main chipset I/O to memory or cache input buffer design, the interface between the MIMO and the disk backplane, or something related to Xeon dual-CPU chipset to bus I/O. Nonetheless, the newer Dell mobo improved performance noticeably.I know I most certainly am wrong, but, I felt it could be useful, because sometimes these things happen and are not apparent (Also, forgive me if I lost something from the middle of the thread, I TL;DR ed it).
Could it be a DELL firmware, power-management or controller temp thing?
I had a similar thing happen with my HP DL380p gen 8 server and the power management for the HP smart P420i 1GB (passthrough, HBA mode, enabled) controller. I needed to specifically disable firmware power management.
Also, can it be the case that some firmware or BIOS options for the PCIe lane management and topology are not as they should be?
Just a thought.
I believe so @homer27081990 . The specific hardware I tried originally had a gen1 mainboard (with, as it turns out, a bad iDRAC), and performance with the same disks and controller was significantly lower than with the gen3 board. We never figured out if that was the iDRAC interfering with BIOS settings, the main chipset I/O to memory or cache input buffer design, the interface between the MIMO and the disk backplane, or something related to Xeon dual-CPU chipset to bus I/O. Nonetheless, the newer Dell mobo improved performance noticeably.