Read & Writes Not Exceeding 20MB

[Alexanderthejman]

So I recently built my TrueNas Server in order to do some video editing. The Read & writes are painfully slow (~15MB Read & writes) and I can't seem to find any help online about what the issue could be. Here is the System I built

TrueNAS-13.0-U3.1
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8350K
MB: GIGABYTE Z370N WIFI LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z370
RAM: Silicon Power 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 2666
Intel Optaine 58GB Cache SSD
5x Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 | ST4000NM0035 | 4TB 7.2K RPM 128MB Cache 3.5in SATA 6Gb/s

I was able to set up a basic SMB share as well as a Iscusi Drive with the help of some YT tutorials but other than that I really have very little knowledge of the more technical aspects of TrueNAS. This is my first time even working with a NAS. I have Cat 6 running from my computer to my Router then to my NAS but there is an NETGEAR - powerline 2000 between mt Computer & router.

appreciate any help on this

 

[Ericloewe]

I see a number of problems here.

• Structural problem first: Do. Not. Go. To. Youtube. For. Advice. The signal to noise ratio is horrible.
• The powerline: is that connection even capable of more than 20 MB/s? You will want to test the network connection between client and server using iperf.
• Video editing... Meaning what, exactly? Are you moving files from server to client and back, trying to stream video directly from the server, editing files in place, ...
• iSCSI - why do you need it in this scenario? It's slower than file sharing and more painful to manage.

 

[Alexanderthejman]

So I tried to run iperf but it won't run on my computer for some reason. Tried compatibility and can't seem to get working. I was moving some large video files to the server where I noticed the R/W speed. when I load those files in Adobe Premiere Pro they seem to work just fine to work with. And the reason I set up a iSCSI drive is I saw someone on YT use TrueNas to make a games library for their desk top and I thought it was a cool thing to do so I made a drive share to test it out. I even tested Red Dead Redemption from that share and aside from the load times being painfully slow the game ran fine. To clarify I have a regular SMB file share for files & I have a iSCSI share. I only have only one pool however. The powerline shows its rated for up to 2000MB so I assume that it should be able to handle at least above 100mb which is what I get when I run an network test.

 

[Alexanderthejman]

Update, I read on another form a suggestion of going to System>advanced and clicking AutoTune. After a reset I got this

not great but much better than b4

 

[Alexanderthejman]

Update, I read on another form a suggestion of going to System>advanced and clicking AutoTune. After a reset I got this View attachment 64469
not great but much better than b4

Correction again, I selected the wrong folder, this is the correct speeds I am getting

 

[jgreco]

And the reason I set up a iSCSI drive is I saw someone on YT

No chance this will work well. See

The path to success for block storage

It seems like I haven't written a sticky for awhile, but just in the last week I've had to cover this topic several times. ZFS does two different things very well. One is storage of large sequentially-written files, such as archives, logs, or data files, where the file does not have the middle...

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You have a quarter of the minimum necessary memory and presumably RAIDZsomething on your 5 drives.

 

[ChrisRJ]

@Alexanderthejman , can you list the YouTube videos you used as a reference?

 

[Ericloewe]

The powerline shows its rated for up to 2000MB so I assume that it should be able to handle at least above 100mb which is what I get when I run an network test.

Yeah, don't assume that. Much like WiFi, the big number on the box is wildly optimistic.

So I tried to run iperf but it won't run on my computer for some reason.

On Windows, you can try jperf, which adds a GUI. Use iperf on the server as normal.

 

[Alexanderthejman]

So couple of replies,
first when I ran Jperf this is what I got, not sure what I need to do in order to fix this as I am still able to read & write just fine from it.

2nd here are the tutorials I used to set up my truenas

TrueNAS CORE 12.0 Install Tutorial

This video tutorial should be all you need to get your first install of TrueNAS Core up and running. I'll take you through creating a USB Install disk, Insta...

www.youtube.com

Use your NAS as a Steam Library - TrueNAS + iSCSI Basics

Thanks to Anker for sponsoring today's video. Check out the Anker Nano Pro here: https://ankerfast.club/3zLMIw3Game installs aren't getting any smaller. And ...

www.youtube.com

This blows away the competition - JONSBO N1 NAS Build

Try FreshBooks free, for 30 days, no credit card required at https://www.freshbooks.com/linusGet 50% off on your annual Zoho CRM subscription at: https://lmg...

www.youtube.com

 

[sretalla]

first when I ran Jperf this is what I got, not sure what I need to do in order to fix this as I am still able to read & write just fine from it.

Did you run iperf3 -s first on the server so it's waiting to connect in server mode?

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

So couple of replies,
here are the tutorials I used to set up my truenas

TrueNAS CORE 12.0 Install Tutorial

This video tutorial should be all you need to get your first install of TrueNAS Core up and running. I'll take you through creating a USB Install disk, Insta...

www.youtube.com

Use your NAS as a Steam Library - TrueNAS + iSCSI Basics

Thanks to Anker for sponsoring today's video. Check out the Anker Nano Pro here: https://ankerfast.club/3zLMIw3Game installs aren't getting any smaller. And ...

www.youtube.com

This blows away the competition - JONSBO N1 NAS Build

Try FreshBooks free, for 30 days, no credit card required at https://www.freshbooks.com/linusGet 50% off on your annual Zoho CRM subscription at: https://lmg...

www.youtube.com

I like Craft Computing, but realize he's doing fun edge systems, not production-level systems. Think of it this way:

1. Datacenter
2. Large Corporate IT
3. Corporate IT
4. Company IT
5. Small Company IT
6. Home System
7. Experimental Systems
8. Entertainment

Craft Computing is #7, TrueNAS is #1, like Microsoft Windows Server - Datacenter Edition. No kidding, it's like buying a mining dump-truck: no where near the same as a pickup truck from an ownership standpoint.

Linus Tech Tips? OH COME ON!!!! That guy has lost his own company's data 4 or 5 times! That's what NOT to do! Vendors black-list him and won't let Linus Media Group buy their products because he makes them look bad due to his company's ill-advised installation and illogical shortcuts. HE CAN'T EVEN HOLD ONTO THINGS WITHOUT DROPPING THEM!!! (Although he's quite entertaining and I enjoy watching his stuff.) Seriously, he's only slightly better than watching Disclosure as a TrueNAS tutorial.

If you want to run TrueNAS, which is an excellent middle-ware by iXsystems, Read The F-ing Manual.

Yellow/orange Download button, upper-right side of the screen:

Hardware Recommendations Guide

This is the latest edition of the FreeNAS Community hardware recommendations guide. The current major version is R2, dated January 2021, with the last minor update on 2021-01-24. The format has moved away from the forum post form factor, to...

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CORE is more stable, so you might choose that:

Will this Ryzen build FreeNAS? And should I go with SCALE over CORE?

So, despite still not having found any available memory this is where I'm at for my build. Thanks for those who've helped me get this far! One thing to note is that I am fully aware that the processor is a wee-bit overkill. However, I had a chance to pick this up from a friend for pretty much...

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The CORE hardware recommendations are under Documentation - FreeNAS (use the menu bar across the top of this screen), Chapter 1.4:

1. Introduction — FreeNAS®11.3-U5 User Guide Table of Contents

www.ixsystems.com

There's possibly a CORE Beginner's Guide, I was only able to find SCALE (I run SCALE, but that doesn't mean it's the best choice):

Welcome to TrueNAS SCALE - Beginners Intro

Since mid 2021 we have had many new users of TrueNAS wanting to try SCALE. Here are some things that are helpful for new TrueNAS SCALE users to know; SCALE is a specialized & targeted OS based on a Linux distro. However, SCALE is NOT a Linux...

www.truenas.com

 

[Alexanderthejman]

Did you run iperf3 -s first on the server

I am not sure how to do that, are you able to walk me through it?

 

[sretalla]

are you able to walk me through it?

What we're doing here is a two-sided test of the network. You need a server to listen and respond and a client to initiate the test.

TrueNAS will be your server and the jperf you have there is set up to be the client.

To run the server in TrueNAS, you would go to the Shell TAB on the left of the GUI and in the black window on the right, type: iperf3 -s then press Enter.

Once that says it's running, go back to jperf and start the test.

 

[sretalla]

Also worth noting that TrueNAS (at least for me) defaults to use port 5201, not 5001 as you have on your screen there.

 

[Alexanderthejman]

What we're doing here is a two-sided test of the network. You need a server to listen and respond and a client to initiate the test.

TrueNAS will be your server and the jperf you have there is set up to be the client.

To run the server in TrueNAS, you would go to the Shell TAB on the left of the GUI and in the black window on the right, type: iperf3 -s then press Enter.

Once that says it's running, go back to jperf and start the test.

Thank you so much for your help with this! This is what I got after getting the server to listen for iperf

Let me know what this tells you on your end in terms of what that could mean

 

[HoneyBadger]

This is what I got after getting the server to listen for iperf

You're definitely showing network problems here.

You stated earlier that you're running your cable in this manner:

I have Cat 6 running from my computer to my Router then to my NAS but there is an NETGEAR - powerline 2000 between mt Computer & router.

Are you positive that your router is not interfering somehow in the connection, whether through some deliberate "client isolation" or inadvertent "Hacker Protection" method?

Make sure that you're connecting both your client system and your TrueNAS server to the "LAN" or "client" side of your router. If you can (temporarily) relocate it closer to the router and remove the powerline bridge, or even use a network switch (not a router) instead, that will likely help with the issues.

 

[Alexanderthejman]

Are you positive that your router is not interfering somehow in the connection, whether through some deliberate "client isolation" or inadvertent "Hacker Protection" method?

I am not sure actually, I will try to check my router settings to see what I can find but I am not sure what to look for. I have a NETGEAR Nighthawk Smart Wi-Fi Router, R6700.

If you can (temporarily) relocate it closer to the router and remove the powerline bridge

I will try doing this as well to help isolate the issue

 

[Alexanderthejman]

relocate it closer to the router and remove the powerline bridge,

So after removing the bridge and connecting directly to my router these are the read & writes I got. So I think the Powerline bridge is definitely the issue. I am gonna need to find a way to run a cable to my router that doesn't involve the power line, and suggestions?

 

[NugentS]

Get a drill?
Buy some cable
Buy (and learn to use) crimping tools and RJ45 Ends

Profit (well, maybe not profit] - but faster connection.

Cable:

• Cat5e is minimum spec and easy to terminate. 1Gb connection only (or very short 10Gb, assuming you NICs and switch are capable)
• Better than 5e gets harder to terminate and more expensive cable. Unless you plan on 10Gb (or better) then stick to 5e