Plex and Jellyfin apps won't start

[bsotak]

Anyone know if this is fixed yet?

 

[sgt_jamez]

22.12-MASTER-20220913-102905 is the most current I have tried. I see that there's a few more updates but I have not tried them yet. The issue is still there but the workaround of stopping all the individual SMB shares, starting the apps, and restarting the shares works. I have had to stop and start the domain connection as well.

 

[mandrsn1]

I still get it though the error message in the log is different.

{"kind":"Status","apiVersion":"v1","metadata":{},"status":"Failure","message":"Get \"https://192.168.2.230:10250/contain...true\u0026tailLines=500\u0026timestamps=true\": x509: certificate is valid for 127.0.0.1, 0.0.0.0, not 192.168.2.230","code":500}

I'm getting that same error with Plex.

 

[rs_taylor]

I just changed the 'offending' share paths, I got sick of the workaround each time i restarted/updated/upgrade scale and/or apps.

It is a confirmed bug, or another case of a new "Feature"?

 

[truecharts]

To be clear:
After many issues with shares being combined with Apps storage, iX by default has disabled combining the two.
Primarily the, much used, NFSv4 ACL's (often used with SMB shares) inherently cannot work with certain containers. Because they do not allow the use of chmod and chown which are often hard-failing containers.

However: Shares and replication blocking Apps, is a bug and is something we've made iX aware of.

 

[noconnor]

I thought this was a bug without a workaround in the nightlies I was trying until I came across this thread. For me, SMB shares and the SMB service running wasn't the issue. Once I disable snapshot/replication tasks on the datasets used by the apps I was able to get them started again.

 

[truecharts]

I thought this was a bug without a workaround in the nightlies I was trying until I came across this thread. For me, SMB shares and the SMB service running wasn't the issue. Once I disable snapshot/replication tasks on the datasets used by the apps I was able to get them started again.

The snapshot and replication also causing this is indeed a bug iX has been made ware of :)

 

[reinis]

This issue is killing me... Is there a jira ticket opened for this already?

 

[truecharts]

This issue is killing me... Is there a jira ticket opened for this already?

To be fair this issue only exists in a BETA, it's the reason most users should not be running BETA and why we don't even support it ;-)
But the snapshot and replications being unable to be combined is indeed something we've made iX aware of, including ticket(s).

The other issue (shares and apps) is not going to be fixed according to our sources. As it's what they intended.

 

[sgt_jamez]

Just to be sure I understand this correctly... I should NOT set and SMB share for a folder used by an app? Is that correct?

If so, what is the "correct" way to access folders that I cannot share?

Thanks! :)

 

[truecharts]

Just to be sure I understand this correctly... I should NOT set and SMB share for a folder used by an app? Is that correct?

Thats what iX has decided for 22.12 "Bluefin" yes.
(to be clear: this rule does not apply to 22.02.04!)

If so, what is the "correct" way to access folders that I cannot share?

You can mount NFS shares on TrueCharts just like hostPath, though it's not very much tested.

To be fair: SMB shares where not very usefull because we don't support the much-used ACL's anyway. Or rather: A lot of containers are inherently incompatible with ACL's

 

[sotiris.bos]

I got this error when I had wrong permissions at the host storage path. Fixed it after I ran:

Code:

chmod -R 777 /mnt/path to container storage folder

 

[Pirateguybrush]

Thats what iX has decided for 22.12 "Bluefin" yes.
(to be clear: this rule does not apply to 22.02.04!)

Does this apply to the Plex config location, or to the media location too? I have the media location shared via SMB for easy access - will this no longer be practical in future releases?

 

[mgoulet65]

Does this apply to the Plex config location, or to the media location too? I have the media location shared via SMB for easy access - will this no longer be practical in future releases?

I have the same question. It would be super inconvenient if it DID apply to the media location. Through some noob luck I did not use SMB share locations for my hostpath config locations!

 

[jmcguire525]

Does this apply to the Plex config location, or to the media location too? I have the media location shared via SMB for easy access - will this no longer be practical in future releases?

+1 on this question for plex and other apps. Do I understand correctly that only the app storage/config dataset is restricted from using SMB shares? Meaning it is acceptable for additional storage added to the app (e.g. plex media files) to use a dataset with SMB and ACLs?

 

[truecharts]

This applies to all(!) cases of hostPath based storage on Bluefin.

 

[Pirateguybrush]

This applies to all(!) cases of hostPath based storage on Bluefin.

Thanks for clarifying, but I'm too inexperienced to know what hostpath based storage means. In simple terms - you're saying it does apply to the media location?

In that case, what method would you suggest for moving files from Windows machines into a media store for Plex?

 

[jmcguire525]

This change should be pinned at the top of the Bluefin forum since it was a decision made by iX (not that it was ever officially supported by Truecharts).

 

[Darrell Patenaude]

This pisses me off and should be worked on. It makes me want to go back to core.
So if I have TVSHOWS as a SMB share, I have to make a directory inside this called say TVSHOWS to make plex work? How f'ed is that.
And for every APP that uses directory's.

 

[Daisuke]

Cleanest way is to always plan the use of /mnt/pool/dataset as base, for example /mnt/default/media. Inside it, you can create or move all the directories you want and never worry about any issues in Plex or any other application. This is actually the intended use of a shared dataset.

While there, don't forget to add a ramdisk, if you transcode in Plex. See discussion: