2nd try building a rig, is it ok?

[Oyvind]

Ive come to realize movies take space, a lot of space. The high disk load during download/unpacking/repairing is no fun either, especially if i happen to play a game when it happens. Because of this ive decided to build a nas and want to use freenas.

My first attempt did not go well, did not read enough and ordered a skylake system, which is now mostly returned.

I will be using it for storage, plex server and SABnzbd, possibly other stuff as well.

The parts ive chosen this time:
Mobo:
Supermicro X10SL7-F-O

Ram:
Kingston DDR3 1600MHZ ECC 32GB KIT - KVR16E11K4/32I

Cpu:
Intel Xeon E3-1231V3

Case:
Fractal Design R5

Hdd:
WD red 4tb (already bought 1 of those)

PSU:
CP-9020061-EU (already bought)

 

[KJaneway]

Can you tell what exactly went wrong with your "old" Skylake solution?
Skylake supports up to 64 GB of Ram instead of 32GB, so I would prefer Skylake.

Your CPU is maybe overkill for just downloading and unpacking. Even for a single Plex transcoding stream.

 

[Oyvind]

Didnt support boot from usb:
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/unable-to-install-to-from-usb.39904

And repairing, using usenet for downloads. Probably would be running 2 plex streams at once. Dont mind downgrading it, but what to get instead?

 

[Dice]

My first attempt did not go well, did not read enough and ordered a skylake system, which is now mostly returned.

Didnt support boot from usb:

As far as I know that has been fixed since 9.10.

 

[danb35]

From what I've heard, Skylake should work fine, including booting from USB, on 9.10 (or you could always use a small SSD), but if you've already returned that gear that's kind of moot. The board and CPU are solid choices--the Xeon is likely overkill (an i3 would likely be plenty), but that won't hurt anything but your wallet. That board and CPU will limit you to 32 GB of RAM, which may or may not be a problem for you--how much storage do you plan to have, and what else will you be doing on the machine?

Most things from Kingston are disfavored here; Crucial/Micron or whatever's on SuperMicro's HCL seems to be favored instead for the RAM.

 

[Oyvind]

Oh, did not know that.

Most of the parts is returned, except for the hdd, usb sticks and the psu. But from what people here told me about it i would be better off just getting new stuff as it was consumer grade mobo that didnt support ECC ram.

I plan to start at 4 x 4tb hdd's i think. Was planning to use it for mostly plex and newsgroups, reason for xeon was that i3 on the 1150 doesnt support ecc ram. Guess i have to figure out new ram, mobo and cpu. Good thing i asked here before buying, unlike last time :P

Thnx for help everyone! :)

 

[danb35]

reason for xeon was that i3 on the 1150 doesnt support ecc ram.

I don't believe this is correct. See, for example, the i3-4150.

 

[Oyvind]

I don't believe this is correct. See, for example, the i3-4150.

Huh, that didnt show when i searched for which cpu's supports ECC. Oh well, moot point now as im going for skylake instead.

 

[Oyvind]

Ok, new setup:
Mobo:
Supermicro X11SSH-LN4F

Ram:
Crucial CT2K16G4RFD4213

Cpu:
Intel Core i3 6300

Case:
Fractal Design R5 (already bought)

Hdd:
WD red 4tb (already bought 1 of those)

PSU:
CP-9020061-EU (already bought)

Any comments?

 

[Dice]

Any comments?

For the motherboard choice, this thread provide some discussion.

Cheers /

 

[Oyvind]

For the motherboard choice, this thread provide some discussion.

Cheers / Dice

Not sure what part you are refering to about the mobo, but I picked the SSH-LN4F because of the 8 sata ports and the -LN4F version because it is slightly cheaper than the SSH-F version

 

[Oyvind]

I know this choice will annoy some of you, but i think i will have the machine run vm and virtualize freenas instead so i can run a bit of other things on it. Will uppgrade the cpu to a E3 V5 1230

 

[Dice]

Not sure what part you are refering to about the mobo

I'm not sure how you missed the discussion on LN4F vs X11SSL-F.

I know this choice will annoy some of you, but i think i will have the machine run vm and virtualize freenas

It is probably not so much "annoy" but rather "you're on your own now", from what I've seen.

 

[maglin]

OP if you are not already savy on ESXi I would just stick with FreeNAS as support for you will drop to a few people.


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[Nick2253]

I know this choice will annoy some of you, but i think i will have the machine run vm and virtualize freenas instead so i can run a bit of other things on it. Will uppgrade the cpu to a E3 V5 1230

What are your goals here? Thanks to jails, you can do anything on FreeNAS that you could do on FreeBSD (which is a heck of a lot), and for things you can't do on FreeBSD, there's bhyve.

If you want to go down the virtualization path correctly, I'd strongly recommend a dedicated controller for your FreeNAS VM. Unless FreeNAS has direct control over the controller/HDDs, you lose many of the benefits of ZFS, and you'll likely incur a performance hit. If you plan on making FreeNAS your datastore for your hypervisor, make sure you understand the performance requirements, and investigate the need for a SLOG/L2ARC.

Part of the opposition to virtualizing FreeNAS is that virtualization adds another layer of complexity to an already complex setup. And to handle that complexity "correctly", that adds more cost (not to mention time to set it up). Instead, what often happens is people say: "I have this great hardware. It would be great for a hypervisor. I would also be great for a FreeNAS system. Therefore, I can do both," however, just because it works for either setup, does not mean it will work for both setups. It's not just a matter of stepping up to the next processor and adding more memory; it's about understanding the needs of both the hypervisor and FreeNAS for: boot devices (FreeNAS runs on a USB stick much happier than most hypervisors), controller access, peak load (for example, when you're virtualizing, the system load from scubbing your array can now impact much more than just your NAS, and the load from a different VM can bring FreeNAS to its knees), reliability/restoration (it's not just a matter of re-imaging FreeNAS on another USB stick and importing the pool; now you have to deal with the virtualization layer), etc.

 

[Ericloewe]

Not sure what part you are refering to about the mobo, but I picked the SSH-LN4F because of the 8 sata ports and the -LN4F version because it is slightly cheaper than the SSH-F version

What about the X11SSM-F? Same eight SATA ports, but cheaper and with a more logical PCI-e lane distribution (for the majority of users, anyway).