8.0.3 RELEASE coming soon

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Cache and cookies are two completely different things.

Yeah. And some modern browsers (like Firefox) have per-site cookie deletion policies TBH, but I think this is getting a bit off-topic now :).
 

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Yeah. And some modern browsers (like Firefox) have per-site cookie deletion policies TBH, but I think this is getting a bit off-topic now :).

Arg! I'm wrong yet again. A search on Google helped open my eyes. Thanks.

So to keep things on topic... 8.0.3-Release ? I've been running 8.0.3-RC1 (r9292 with multimedia) and she is running fine on my VM. I see you have 9312/13 updates so that is what I'll build (with minidlna of course), place on my VM for a day and then on my NAS unless otherwise advised. I don't know if you're getting any feedback on this version but mine works for me so far but I don't have a wild or complex system configuration nor heavy I/O loads either but that was all on the VM. I doubt the real NAS will have any issue either for what I use it for.
 

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Feedback on testing RC1:

I have tested RC1 on a VM for a day and just loaded it on my real NAS and it appears to be working fine. This is with the media installed of course. I have given a copy to another soul who was going to test it out as well and hopefully provide some feedback. I see RC2 is on the horizon as well with quite a few changes so I'll likely be testing those out as well.

I had two issues to which I do not plan to submit any trouble tickets as I suspect they are just my system but I will briefly mention them here...

1) When booting the CD (iso) when the screen reaches the countdown (starts at 2 seconds), it hangs there. Pressing enter continues the software. This has been around at least since 8.0.2 for me and I don't know why it happens but it doesn't bother me much either.

2) My Zpool would not auto-import into 8.0.2 or 8.0.3, not sure why. I worked through it by using CLI to export the pool and them I could Auto-Import.

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Feedback on testing RC1:

I have tested RC1 on a VM for a day and just loaded it on my real NAS and it appears to be working fine. This is with the media installed of course. I have given a copy to another soul who was going to test it out as well and hopefully provide some feedback. I see RC2 is on the horizon as well with quite a few changes so I'll likely be testing those out as well.

Ok. The RC2 images have been posted on SF < 1 hour ago. I'm going to run through the images really quickly before I send out the "all-clear".

I had two issues to which I do not plan to submit any trouble tickets as I suspect they are just my system but I will briefly mention them here...

1) When booting the CD (iso) when the screen reaches the countdown (starts at 2 seconds), it hangs there. Pressing enter continues the software. This has been around at least since 8.0.2 for me and I don't know why it happens but it doesn't bother me much either.

This is usually the sign of a funky BIOS/serial console/IPMI board (I know a company that starts with an F that made an appliance that would ritually hang with the FreeBSD bootloader, so we muted the console input). Can you either update your BIOS or BMC and try again?

2) My Zpool would not auto-import into 8.0.2 or 8.0.3, not sure why. I worked through it by using CLI to export the pool and them I could Auto-Import.

This I'm more concerned with. Could you pastebin your zpool status output offline so I can figure out what's going on?
 

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Ok. The RC2 images have been posted on SF < 1 hour ago. I'm going to run through the images really quickly before I send out the "all-clear".
Great, now I can build that version, give me 2 hours and 30 minutes and I'll have something.


This is usually the sign of a funky BIOS/serial console/IPMI board (I know a company that starts with an F that made an appliance that would ritually hang with the FreeBSD bootloader, so we muted the console input). Can you either update your BIOS or BMC and try again?
My BIOS is current and I'm not worried about it. I could probably make a BIOS change to make it work but as long as it runs after the software is installed, I'm good. I'm letting you know in case you see a trend.

This I'm more concerned with. Could you pastebin your zpool status output offline so I can figure out what's going on?
When it comes to zpools, exporting, etc... I'm not very experienced. I posted in a new thread here to separate it from this thread. http://forums.freenas.org/showthread.php?5394-8-0-3-Zpool-issue&p=19070#post19070
 

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Gcooper,

I noticed you added the changes I suggested for the fuse stuff to nanobsd/common, but when checking RC2 it looks like they didn't make it. I was going to suggest making a symbolic link to the fuse module instead of copying it to save space, but wasn't sure why the change didn't make it into RC2?

At least don't load the NTFS module by default, I suppose fuse.ko could be added from the GUI with the new loader settings, but the module or a symbolic link to it in /boot/kernel would help. The less coaching to Noobs to get it working, the better! ;-)
 
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Gcooper,

I noticed you added the changes I suggested for the fuse stuff to nanobsd/common, but when checking RC2 it looks like they didn't make it. I was going to suggest making a symbolic link to the fuse module instead of copying it to save space, but wasn't sure why the change didn't make it into RC2?

At least don't load the NTFS module by default, I suppose fuse.ko could be added from the GUI with the new loader settings, but the module or a symbolic link to it in /boot/kernel would help. The less coaching to Noobs to get it working, the better! ;-)

You're right.. I forgot to do that (my Windows machine was 2 states away this past weekend...). I'll merge it over once I can be sure that it does what you suggest and all the bits are in place.

Thanks for the reminder :).
 

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8.0.3 rc2

Powercom UPS now working. Thanx.

uhid0: <POWERCOM Co.,LTD product 0x00a6, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2> on usbus0

Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service ix-ups quietstart
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut restart
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut because nut_enable is NO.
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upsmon restart
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut_upsmon because nut_upsmon_enable is NO.
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upslog restart
Dec 29 12:58:44 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut_upslog because nut_upslog_enable is NO.
Dec 29 12:58:45 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /bin/pgrep -F /var/db/nut/upsd.pid upsd

Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service ix-ups quietstart
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut restart
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut because nut_enable is NO.
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upsmon restart
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut_upsmon because nut_upsmon_enable is NO.
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upslog restart
Dec 29 13:00:17 freenas freenas: Will not 'restart' nut_upslog because nut_upslog_enable is NO.
Dec 29 13:00:18 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /bin/pgrep -F /var/db/nut/upsd.pid upsd
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service ix-ups quietstart
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut restart
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas: nut not running? (check /var/db/nut/upsd.pid).
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas: Using subdriver: PowerCOM HID 0.2
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas: Network UPS Tools - Generic HID driver 0.35 (2.6.2)
Dec 29 13:00:26 freenas freenas: USB communication driver 0.31
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.6.2
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: Starting nut.
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upsmon restart
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: nut_upsmon not running? (check /var/db/nut/upsmon.pid).
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: Starting nut_upsmon.
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: UPS: ups (master) (power value 1)
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /usr/sbin/service nut_upslog restart
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: nut_upslog not running? (check /var/db/nut/upslog.pid).
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas: Starting nut_upslog.
Dec 29 13:00:27 freenas freenas[2010]: Executing: /bin/pgrep -F /var/db/nut/upsd.pid upsd


UPS test:

Dec 29 13:10:12 freenas upsmon[3223]: UPS ups on battery
Dec 29 13:10:27 freenas upsmon[3223]: UPS ups on line power



Something strange with SATA3 HDD (AMD A75 chipset):

Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: atapci0: <AMD ATA controller> port 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf050-0xf05f mem 0xfeb0d000-0xfeb0d7ff irq 19 at device 17.0 on pci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: atapci0: [ITHREAD]
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata2: [ITHREAD]
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata3: [ITHREAD]

Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA3B0> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: da0: <ADATA USB Flash Drive 1.00> Removable Direct Access SCSI-5 device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 
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Good to hear about your UPS working now :)! I got a report offline that there were still issues with some UPSes, so some investigation needs to be done once I have more data... but this seems fine for now.

Something strange with SATA3 HDD (AMD A75 chipset):

Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: atapci0: <AMD ATA controller> port 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf050-0xf05f mem 0xfeb0d000-0xfeb0d7ff irq 19 at device 17.0 on pci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: atapci0: [ITHREAD]
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata2: [ITHREAD]
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ata3: [ITHREAD]

Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA3B0> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: da0: <ADATA USB Flash Drive 1.00> Removable Direct Access SCSI-5 device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers

Looks like syslog messages were interleaved. This is a known issue in FreeBSD up to 9.x. It'll be supposedly fixed in 9.0-RELEASE.
 

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Looks like syslog messages were interleaved. This is a known issue in FreeBSD up to 9.x. It'll be supposedly fixed in 9.0-RELEASE.
40 MB/s - it is for USB3 flash drive. Seems to be OK.
33 MB/s for SATA3 drives is too low

another 4 SATA drives:

ada0: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada1 at ata2 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada1: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA3B0> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada1: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada1: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada2 at ata3 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada2: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA3B0> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada2: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada2: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada3 at ata3 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada3: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA580> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada3: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada3: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada4 at ata1 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada4: <Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 MKAOA580> ATA-8 SATA 3.x device
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada4: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes)
Dec 29 12:57:31 freenas kernel: ada4: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 
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40 MB/s - it is for USB3 flash drive. Seems to be OK.
33 MB/s for SATA3 drives is too low

another 4 SATA drives:

...

Now I understand what you were looking at. What controller are you using (/var/run/dmesg.boot posted elsewhere would be awesome -- thanks!)?
 
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@protosd: Merged over the NTFS changes required in r9359:r9360 after doing the required spotcheck with an NTFS diskimage in virtualbox. Running another integration test with the x86 image...
 

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Now I understand what you were looking at. What controller are you using (/var/run/dmesg.boot posted elsewhere would be awesome -- thanks!)?
ASUS F1A75 - Chipset AMD A75 FCH (Hudson D3)
I will check /var/run/dmesg.boot only 3th of January. Also I will check controller mode (IDE compatible/AHCI). I am not shure that I set mode to AHCI after BIOS upgrade.
 

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@protosd: Merged over the NTFS changes required in r9359:r9360 after doing the required spotcheck with an NTFS diskimage in virtualbox. Running another integration test with the x86 image...
Building right now, should be able to test it later today. If you have any suggestions on what I should do to specifically test the new changes please let me know. I plan to put this on my VM for a few hours and play around with it, then pop it on another USB Flash drive and give it a spin on the real NAS.
 
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Building right now, should be able to test it later today. If you have any suggestions on what I should do to specifically test the new changes please let me know. I plan to put this on my VM for a few hours and play around with it, then pop it on another USB Flash drive and give it a spin on the real NAS.

Here's how I tested it:

1. Download imdisk to your Windows machine.
2. Create a virtual disk with imdisk (in my case I created a 4GB file).
3. Format the filesystem NTFS in Windows.
4. Optionally create some files on the virtual drive.
5. Unmount the drive from within Explorer (there's an unmount imdisk option if you right-mouse click the drive).
6. Convert the image from raw dd format to a VM friendly format if required (not required for QEMU; required for VirtualBox; maybe required for Xen and VMware, but I don't remember OTOH). You can use
Code:
VBoxManage convertfromraw inpu-tfile output-file
to create a VirtualBox/VMware/Xen grok-able image.
7. Shutdown your VM.
8. Attach the disk image to the VM.
9. Boot up your VM.
10. Do 'Import Volume' from within the FreeNAS GUI.
11. Choose 'NTFS', a volume name, and the disk.
12. Press ok and watch for fireworks :).

Note: Be sure to shutdown the VM and detach the virtual disk when you're done... otherwise the VM software will get cranky if you go and delete it, then restart the VM later :).
 

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I use VMWare Workstation 7.1 for all my VM testing (can't justify upgrading to 8, not worth the cost for what I do at home). I can do the same thing pretty easy through it without all the extra work. I'll let you know how it goes.
 

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@gcooper & Protosd

I tested in my VM and here are my results:
1) The GUI did not display the /mnt/NTFSTest when I tried to create a Windows Share, nor was it listed in any of the share screens.
2) I manually entered the share path listed above in the GUI and it was accepted.
3) I was able to access dozens of small files and play one movie (Cowboys & Aliens) because I wanted to test a large file (~6GB) as well.
4) Writing files to the share could be problematic. Writing a single file at a time was fine but more that one file at the same time failed with the following message:
Code:
An unexpected error is keeping you from copying the file...  Error 0x8007003A: The specified server cannot perform the requested operation.

And this got me thinking about multiple reads at a time, guess what, it too fails with the same error message.

Also file transfers are very slow compared to ZFS. Just to cover the bases I did test ZFS and had no problems transferring multiple files either way at once.

I think another test would be multiple NTFS drives and trying to transfer files between the them and some other file transfer scenarios.

I might test this software out on my real NAS to see if the problems persist.

For certain the GUI needs to be fixed for step 1 above to list the mounted drive.

EDIT: I loaded RC-3 (developers build, not mine this time) to my real NAS and was able to easily mount an NTFS formatted USB hard drive. All the same problems exist as listed above.

-Mark
 
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@gcooper & Protosd

I tested in my VM and here are my results:
1) The GUI did not display the /mnt/NTFSTest when I tried to create a Windows Share, nor was it listed in any of the share screens.
2) I manually entered the share path listed above in the GUI and it was accepted.
3) I was able to access dozens of small files and play one movie (Cowboys & Aliens) because I wanted to test a large file (~6GB) as well.
4) Writing files to the share could be problematic. Writing a single file at a time was fine but more that one file at the same time failed with the following message:
Code:
An unexpected error is keeping you from copying the file...  Error 0x8007003A: The specified server cannot perform the requested operation.

And this got me thinking about multiple reads at a time, guess what, it too fails with the same error message.

Also file transfers are very slow compared to ZFS. Just to cover the bases I did test ZFS and had no problems transferring multiple files either way at once.

I think another test would be multiple NTFS drives and trying to transfer files between the them and some other file transfer scenarios.

I might test this software out on my real NAS to see if the problems persist.

For certain the GUI needs to be fixed for step 1 above to list the mounted drive.

EDIT: I loaded RC-3 (developers build, not mine this time) to my real NAS and was able to easily mount an NTFS formatted USB hard drive. All the same problems exist as listed above.

Hate to break it to you, but fuse is known to be slow and sometimes buggy (but to be honest, I've run into some nasty panic situations in the past with the FreeBSD NTFS kernel module doing simple things). I'll have to take a look and see whether or not a newer version fixes anything on trunk, but at this point I'm fine with saying it works but there are performance issues, etc and recommend that NTFS volumes only be used for copying off files because it isn't core functionality (that's kind of the purpose behind EXT*, FAT, NTFS support in FreeNAS IMO).

Thanks for the info BTW :).
 
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BTW. I posted an official set of 8.0.3-RC3 images up on SF. This should be the last RC.
 
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