Greetings all! I just started using TrueNAS Core TrueNAS-13.0-U5.3 on an old Asus Z87-A motherboard, an Intel 4790, 16GB of RAM, an 1TB SSD for the OS, and 5 8TB drives. I was trying to do some research about how to adjust the UI timeout, and supposedly it was going to be a feature added. Still, being I am not confident in CommandLine, I wanted to know if there is a way to adjust the UI Timeout and not risk messing something up in CMD.
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Simple question I hope.
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danb35
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Holy overkill, Batman!
There is not, and AFAIK there are no plans to change this for CORE. It will apparently be in the next release of SCALE.
Seriously? That's stupid! It really makes it difficult if you're trying to configure something and the UI times out on you and you're wondering why your changes are applying. Is there a way to do it in the command line? Also does TrueNas have an SSH server I can connect to it that way too?
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Of course, what doesn't these days? Services/SSH, if memory serves.
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If you say so. It's clearly terribly important to you.
Not that I'm aware of.
Of course it does. The docs explain how to configure it.
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Adding such an option to Core could potentially lead to system crashes, data loss, and nuclear meltdown.
Adding such an option to SCALE? Eh. No big deal. Easy enough.
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WE DID IT, BOYS! First time in TrueNAS Forum history! Three posts at the same exact moment.
I don't see why it's not a feature to change the timeout of the UI, What's the big deal?? Changing UI timeouts is a standard thing in MOST server software. Heck, even Foreman provisioning server software lets you change the UI timeout.
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Because it's Core, not SCALE. (See my post above.)
Ok, but that's silly it's not in both versions. And I seriously would like to suggest someone add it in both versions. There really shouldn't be a reason for a simple setting to only be in one version don't you think?
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Psst. Hey, buddy. Over here. You. Yes, you. Come here. Closer... closer...
Is anyone with you? No. Okay, good.
Listen carefully. I will only whisper this.
I agree with you.
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Because it isn't. We don't know the reason (though I suspect it was "iX didn't think about it"), and you don't really care about the reason anyway. Your complaining about it here--the only thing you've done on this forum--isn't going to change it. Filing a ticket in the bug tracking system (link at the top of the page) might change it. Eventually. Or iX might get around to backporting that feature from SCALE to CORE some time in the next decade.
Edit: What @winnielinnie is trying to say is that, to all appearances, iX have all but ceased development of the CORE UI, giving lame excuses like stability of the system. Apparently stability of SCALE isn't nearly as important to them, as they make all kinds of changes there.
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Ok so how do you change it in the config file?
You do not need to be quite so harsh of a reply. I am voicing and asking why, and if there is a way to change because it's needed. That's all.
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I wouldn't read that as harsh.
Doing a little research made me return to this post (I knew it was in the archived section!)
TrueNAS UI Timeout and Shell
So I'm using rsync to move data from an older NAS to my new TrueNAS one. But the issue I am running into is that if I open a shell on a Web UI session that session will timeout very quickly and then no shell. I cannot leave it over night. At the same time I cannot find anything to change the...
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Extend TrueNAS Web UI Session Timeout | Tom Schlick
Ramblings of an Ohio Based Software Engineer
Increase token timeout from 1 minute to 5 minutes by erincodepirate · Pull Request #705 · truenas/webui
(this helps with the issue of getting logged out prematurely) Ticket: #31425
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No clue if it still works, but it should since it's CORE...
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Nice. I heavily use the UI a lot as I am a graphical person and was disappointed by the short UI time window of the software and I needed to adjust it for my needs. I assume if something breaks, I can just reupload my original config file and restore anything that breaks?I wouldn't read that as harsh.
Doing a little research made me return to this post (I knew it was in the archived section!)
TrueNAS UI Timeout and Shell
So I'm using rsync to move data from an older NAS to my new TrueNAS one. But the issue I am running into is that if I open a shell on a Web UI session that session will timeout very quickly and then no shell. I cannot leave it over night. At the same time I cannot find anything to change the...
Direct links:
Extend TrueNAS Web UI Session Timeout | Tom Schlick
Ramblings of an Ohio Based Software Engineertomschlick.com
Increase token timeout from 1 minute to 5 minutes by erincodepirate · Pull Request #705 · truenas/webui
(this helps with the issue of getting logged out prematurely) Ticket: #31425
No clue if it still works, but it should since it's CORE...
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You will likely need a OS reinstall, this kind of change is not supported and not included in the config file.
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I was agreeing with you.
The development for Core is much more conservative than SCALE, so much so that even fixes, features, and polish that should be included with enterprise-grade software are neglected under the general rationale of "We don't want to risk breaking anything."
That's why you get improvements for the "Shell" in SCALE, but not Core. That's why they're going to add the "Holds" feature in SCALE, but not in Core. That's why there's going to be a GUI option to adjust the timeout in SCALE, but not in Core.
I just think my humorous way of portraying it pushes the message without sounding meanspirited.
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@winnielinnie likes to poke a little fun at iXsystems about them repeatedly refusing to change a particular thing in TN CORE, because "it would put system stability and their enterprise customers at risk." It's a long running insider joke and you might not have been aware of that.
A more important point, though: this is the community forum. You are talking to other users. If you ask "can I change the timeout" and the answer is "no", then someone who knows (or at least is convinced they know) gives you that piece of information as a matter of fact. Nobody in this thread knows why this is the case, if it will ever change, etc. So arguing that it is inconvenient, an oversight not to implement ... will get us nowhere. Yes, yes, yes, I think the same, but I am absolutely in the same situation as you are. Nobody here on this forum is going to change anything about the timeout.
To "talk" to iXsystems and their developers you have to open an issue in their JIRA. Again, matter of fact, plain and simple.
HTH,
Patrick
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