NextCloud - what's all that about then?

[adrianwi]

Noticed this mentioned in another thread, so signed up for the news alerts. Looks like it's available now - https://nextcloud.com/install/ - and will upgrade ownCloud and work with their clients. Not sure I understand what's gone on or whether I should be interested to take a look as I suspect it will almost be identical?

Thoughts?

 

[philhu]

Noticed this mentioned in another thread, so signed up for the news alerts. Looks like it's available now - https://nextcloud.com/install/ - and will upgrade ownCloud and work with their clients. Not sure I understand what's gone on or whether I should be interested to take a look as I suspect it will almost be identical?

Thoughts?

Phil of the Skypeople say NextCloud is bad. Cause strange ripplings in the network universe ;)

 

[Mohl]

"NextCloud is bad" is not a very helpful statement in that regard. It does not provide any answers the question asked, nor does it further the discussion...

NextCloud is basically an Owncloud fork. NextCloud's founder, Frank Kralitschek, was one of OwnCloud's co-founders but left the company after disagreements over OwnCloud's further development and over how to deal with the community.
Several developers followed Kralitschek, which resulted in a funding halt by OwnClouds lenders and eventually in closure of OwnCloud's US Office. OwnCloud claims that further development or support is not being affected by this.

As of now, it is far too early to tell whether or not NextCloud will "replace" OwnCloud, but as several core developers left OwnCloud, there is certainly competition between those two projects. If you are interested in supporting NextCloud, go ahead and help NextCloud by testing it, reporting bugs and by taking part in the bug bounty. If you are already using OwnCloud, there is not much reason to change anything as of now - except maybe if you are interested in the enterprise functionality.

 

[VladTepes]

So has anyone reached a conclusion yet on the OwnCloud vs NextCloud debate for FreeNAS use?

 

[nathank1989]

Personally, I figured since the guy who made it and most of the main dev team went with Nextcloud, I am gonna go with them.

 

[VladTepes]

Haven't looked yet - haven't yet set everything up. Is there a nextcloud plugin?

 

[Jailer]

No but there is a nextcloud package. At this point though it takes a manual install in a standard jail to get it up and running.

 

[nathank1989]

Shameless plug, but check out My Guide here, installs Apache 2.4, PHP 7.0, and MariaDB 10.1
There is no plugin, but the OC Plugin is usually months behind in releases. If you want the most recent, then you should look at a manual installation by downloading the package from Nextcloud.

 

[Rudi Pittman]

Shameless plug, but check out My Guide here, installs Apache 2.4, PHP 7.0, and MariaDB 10.1
There is no plugin, but the OC Plugin is usually months behind in releases. If you want the most recent, then you should look at a manual installation by downloading the package from Nextcloud.

I'd like to use your guide but for a newb to use it, you make way to many assumptions. You assume they already setup a pool for nextcloud..ok and if they are not sure how to do that then what?...how about a step by step guide to get nextcloud installed all the way through...or the user will just install the owncloud plugin and hope it eventually gets updated.

 

[INCSlayer]

I'd like to use your guide but for a newb to use it, you make way to many assumptions. You assume they already setup a pool for nextcloud..ok and if they are not sure how to do that then what?...how about a step by step guide to get nextcloud installed all the way through...or the user will just install the owncloud plugin and hope it eventually gets updated.

making the assupmtion that someone trying to manually setup a syncing system in a jail on Freenas is familiar with how to setup pools and mount them in a jail on freenas is in my opinion completetly reasonable

 

[adrianwi]

Agreed! Don't go jumping into jail services until you've got the basics of a pool and datasets nailed down ;)

 

[nathank1989]

I'd like to use your guide but for a newb to use it, you make way to many assumptions. You assume they already setup a pool for nextcloud..ok and if they are not sure how to do that then what?...how about a step by step guide to get nextcloud installed all the way through...or the user will just install the owncloud plugin and hope it eventually gets updated.

I understand your point, but understand I wrote this guide within the first week of me using FreeNAS for the first time. (Notice all of my updated edits as others suggested more FreeNAS friendly approaches). Pools are NAS 101.

As others have said, if you're going to use FreeNAS in the first place, you should already know the basics of setting it up to begin with. There are plenty of FreeNAS resources I have used to get started. Check them before you start dabbling in manual jail configurations. Also, many other manuals on here for custom services will make more assumptions than I.
http://doc.freenas.org/9.3/freenas_storage.html
http://www.freenas.org/blog/a-compl...-design-part-iii-pools-performance-and-cache/