See the overview document. In the seagate section it references an article over at blocks and files (see Update)Did Seagate published any document covering the SMR/SMR for their series ? I'm interested in the IronWolf disks and i can't find any info
Iron wolf appears safe for now. However, the reliability of 12TB drives in the back blaze report would make me shy away from them. Over 3% failure rate is certainly industry-leading, however!Seagate issued this statement on April 21: “Seagate confirms that we do not utilize Shingled Magnetic Recording technology (SMR) in any IronWolf or IronWolf Pro drives – our NAS solutions family.“
I don’t know. There might be a reason. Some folk count their dollars very closely, and I’d assume that this change goes with a drop in price. Of course it could be the other way around and WD could raise the price of the Plus. We shall see presently - are these drives in the channel yet?there simply isn’t a reason for the new red line to exist other than to fool people
Could also mend some broken fences instead. There is now a clear understanding of which type of drive is where, and what it’s for. “SMB or ZFS, Red+”. Then again, I am maybe a little too far away from the “oh a drive, slap it in” crowd to know how this will actually play out with customers.The amount of customer goodwill this decision-by-committee is going to cost in the long run
That was not the case at the consumer end. On Amazon, the Red SMR drives sold at the same price as the Red CMR drives, the last time I looked. WD may have sold SMR drives into the channel at a lower price, however. Though unlikely, resellers may have been pocketing the difference. Based on the available evidence, the more likely scenario is that WD tried to pull a fast one.Some folk count their dollars very closely, and I’d assume that this change goes with a drop in price.
I haven't seen them yet, I presume this blog entry is a bit of a trial balloon to see the market reaction. I would be willing to give WD the benefit of the doubt if they had come up with this drive family technology-split ahead of time. That is, announce the new Red lineup, along with accurate spec sheets for each set of drive families, then ship DMSMR drives to customers who are willing to take the performance hit in return for 20% more capacity. WD did none of that.Of course it could be the other way around and WD could raise the price of the Plus. We shall see presently - are these drives in the channel yet?
I don't agree. The Red line of drives was marketed exclusively for years towards NAS applications and was priced accordingly. The Red series is a strong brand precisely because they performed well in this application. Hence also the strong preference from shuckers of external enclosures for WD drives with Red vs. White labels, even if the mechanism and the firmware is the same.There is now a clear understanding of which type of drive is where, and what it’s for. “SMB or ZFS, Red+”.
For the time being, it is still marketed as CMR, though with a 10x lower expected lifespan than the former Red NAS drives.Someone mentioned the Purple line. I wonder if the story there is the same or if they kept it CMR.
The 8TB and up are available now, since nothing has changed there.I wonder when the "new" Red Plus will get into the supply chain...
No contention. Just that that horse has left the barn. Red had a good rep, it doesn’t any more. The Red brand is damaged, and WD chose to “embrace the suck” and make Red all SMR.Rather than re-designating Red as Red+ and cheapening the original Red brand, DMSMR drives should have been kept out of the NAS-drive channel (i.e. the Red family of products) altogether.
Agreed. WD just pocketed the difference. I am speculating about the future, not the past. How pricing for Red Plus 2-6TB will look we will see, but in order to “slot into” the existing Red Plus line, it’d have to stay at what it has been - which means the Red SMR would need to drop.That was not the case at the consumer end.