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rwslippey

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You didn't miss something. This little server has ECC. They didn't mix and match incompatible junk and then sell thousands of these. It just has an oem board and even checks for compatible (some say fujitsu) RAM. Nothing to worry about. Memtest would probably test this ecc for you as well, but the initial concerns were more based on lack of info than concern about a non legit intel server ecc implementation. Engineers built this box not some basement hack.

You are under minimum spec. Which IS something to worry about. It does look easy to find the matching RAM on Amazon or wherever you prefer to tag 8Gb.

Good luck.

Looking for RAM now... My concern is weather it's actually using the ECC ram?

With it coming back FF FF, does that mean I have a problem? I'll look at running a memtest in a few minutes.

In your opinion should I proceed with the current hardware?

Or do I need to replace something to make ECC function? (Processor or board) I'm not sure if your saying the MB / CPU work together or not and I might have read the specs wrong.

Obviously memory is an issue, which will be addressed soon!

Thanks for your reply and help!
 

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If you can't upgrade the ram cost effectively, I'd either punt the box or run a more suitable os. Running FreeNAS on 4GB is not an acceptable risk, imho. With 8GB you should be fine. It's right on the line of worst acceptable... If that matches your budget and use case get 8GB and don't sweat it.

Fujitsu didn't spend extra on ECC to have it inoperable. They may have cut corners on a bios to make logging and settings minimal for their turnkey server.

I don't know the test program you used. Whether it is suitable or accurate in this scenario. I personally wouldn't waste my time, being that the chances you get an inaccurate result are higher than Fujitsu screwing up the ECC implementation.

I'd build a server. Then upgrade the ram on this one and use it as a replication target for backups. I'd run nas4free or a raw bsd/omnios/linux implementation if I couldn't or wouldn't upgrade.
 

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I think all you need to do is purchase suitable ECC RAM and you will be fine.

What does "dmidecode --type memory" return? Good things to see are Total Width: 72 bit, Data Width: 64 bits.
 

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If you can't upgrade the ram cost effectively, I'd either punt the box or run a more suitable os. Running FreeNAS on 4GB is not an acceptable risk, imho. With 8GB you should be fine. It's right on the line of worst acceptable... If that matches your budget and use case get 8GB and don't sweat it.

Fujitsu didn't spend extra on ECC to have it inoperable. They may have cut corners on a bios to make logging and settings minimal for their turnkey server.

I don't know the test program you used. Whether it is suitable or accurate in this scenario. I personally wouldn't waste my time, being that the chances you get an inaccurate result are higher than Fujitsu screwing up the ECC implementation.

I'd build a server. Then upgrade the ram on this one and use it as a replication target for backups. I'd run nas4free or a raw bsd/omnios/linux implementation if I couldn't or wouldn't upgrade.


Ultimately I do plan to upgrade to a bigger system... This is kind of the test to production implementation. Yes this is used for home use and small side business ( photography ) plus all of the family photos I've been blessed with protecting. So the end goal here is to get this system function (I'm willing to put money into this box if it's worth it)

My plan is to build this box up, get things running and then while using this build a second box from scratch (once I start selecting and purchasing hardware). Once that box is up and operation, this box will go to my father's , who has a much smaller storage/performance requirements, but the NAS still fits the bill their. He will have his NAS box, I'll have my, much larger one for my estimated future expansion.... (this box just won't be big enough for the number of drives I expect in the future to put in it, but it's a good starting place)

We will both then be building together a 3rd box, (which will actually come before my new box) for backups. This box will be off site backups most likely using crashplan (unless you have a better suggestion)

So the big question here is, is putting memory in this thing the only thing I should worry about? If it's just memory, I can do that, honestly if I need to replace a MB or processor, I can do that to, but replacing everything, at that point I might as well start with a new build, but I'd like to be able to pass this on to my dad after I've built and learned everything for him to use..... plus it's what I've got here and now, so thats a plus.


The program I used was suggested above by solarisguy and is posted https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...formance-degradation.21327/page-2#post-124525
https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...formance-degradation.21327/page-2#post-124525
Am I on a good path, or just wasting time?
 

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I think all you need to do is purchase suitable ECC RAM and you will be fine.

What does "dmidecode --type memory" return? Good things to see are Total Width: 72 bit, Data Width: 64 bits.

Code:
[root@freenas] /tmp# dmidecode --type 16
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0022, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 16 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 4
Code:


EDIT:

Just noticed I ran that with --type 16

gonna rerun it again without that and see if I get the total Width and Data width numbers you were referring to.
 
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  1. Is it odd that I'm actually enjoying this?
That is why we're here. :)

Your plan looks reasonable to me. Build something straight from the recommended hardware list for the next build and hardware is a no brainer. The dmidecode data is perfect as expected, I wouldn't hesitate to add the correct ECC upgrade and run it. But it is still an older low spec server, you've just managed to tag the hardware minimum. The question at the end of the day, is will it max out your gigabit network? If it will do that, no point in sweating the specs as even better hardware will just hit the same bottleneck.
 

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That is why we're here. :)

Your plan looks reasonable to me. Build something straight from the recommended hardware list for the next build and hardware is a no brainer. The dmidecode data is perfect as expected, I wouldn't hesitate to add the correct ECC upgrade and run it. But it is still an older low spec server, you've just managed to tag the hardware minimum. The question at the end of the day, is will it max out your gigabit network? If it will do that, no point in sweating the specs as even better hardware will just hit the same bottleneck.

Sounds good, any recommended brands on Memory? This thing has Samsung ECC in it now...

Found Crucial 8GB for $109 at Tiger Direct but of course the board maxes out at 4GB per socket... so... on to more searching


My network leaves alot to be desired... But I don't think anything beyond it right now is of huge concern... Performance is second, Data redundancy is 1st..... Looks like I need another drive to get me RAIDZ 2 as well...
 

rwslippey

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I think all you need to do is purchase suitable ECC RAM and you will be fine.

What does "dmidecode --type memory" return? Good things to see are Total Width: 72 bit, Data Width: 64 bits.

Code:

# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0022, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
  Location: System Board Or Motherboard
  Use: System Memory
  Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
  Maximum Capacity: 16 GB
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0023, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: 72 bits
  Data Width: 64 bits
  Size: 2048 MB
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-1A
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0024, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: Unknown
  Data Width: Unknown
  Size: No Module Installed
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-2A
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0025, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: 72 bits
  Data Width: 64 bits
  Size: 2048 MB
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-1B
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0026, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: Unknown
  Data Width: Unknown
  Size: No Module Installed
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-2B
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown
 

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Just posting for some confirmation since I'm one of the resident experts with ECC and non-ECC...

Yes, you do need to upgrade to 8GB of RAM.
It appears that your RAM is ECC. But there's definite ambiguity as to whether it's using it or not. For ECC to work your CPU must support ECC (it does), your motherboard must support ECC (not 100% sure of), and your RAM must (which seems to be 100% since it has 9 chips). If you are 100% sure that the RAM in your box came with the system, then I'd say it's probably a safe bet that ECC is supported. It would be silly to include ECC RAM if it's not supported. If you go into your BIOS there should be at least one setting that at least mentions ECC RAM in some aspect though, so that might be useful info.

Can you post the entire output of "dmidecode"? And can you reboot the box and then post the debug file?

If I were a betting man, I'd say that ECC isn't working since the ecc_check gave ff's. It shouldn't have for that generation of Intel chipset and Intel CPU if you were using ECC RAM and it were supported. So I'm hoping we can get enough solid info to validate your board does in fact use ECC.
 

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Just posting for some confirmation since I'm one of the resident experts with ECC and non-ECC...

Yes, you do need to upgrade to 8GB of RAM.
It appears that your RAM is ECC. But there's definite ambiguity as to whether it's using it or not. For ECC to work your CPU must support ECC (it does), your motherboard must support ECC (not 100% sure of), and your RAM must (which seems to be 100% since it has 9 chips). If you are 100% sure that the RAM in your box came with the system, then I'd say it's probably a safe bet that ECC is supported. It would be silly to include ECC RAM if it's not supported. If you go into your BIOS there should be at least one setting that at least mentions ECC RAM in some aspect though, so that might be useful info.

Can you post the entire output of "dmidecode"? And can you reboot the box and then post the debug file?

If I were a betting man, I'd say that ECC isn't working since the ecc_check gave ff's. It shouldn't have for that generation of Intel chipset and Intel CPU if you were using ECC RAM and it were supported. So I'm hoping we can get enough solid info to validate your board does in fact use ECC.



Thanks for your reply cyberjock... I keep coming back to what I said a few days ago


It's an Intel Core i3 540 @ 3.07 Ghz

Looking up the specs online for the machines model number I come up with Intel 3420 for the chipset....

A look at the Intel Core i3 540 reveals....

Error Correcting Code (ECC) Memory
(when paired with Intel® 3450 chipset)

To me it appears that the processor doesn't support ECC unless it's paired with the 3450 chipset, I was hoping someone else could confirm if my logic makes sense on this....

If in fact that is true, it seems to me that simply swapping out the CPU for a CPU that supports ECC with the 3420 chipset makes sense ( atleast it seems like the easiest thing to do )

Your thoughts?

I'm going to run the above you suggested and post back, but wanted to get your opinion on the above as well...
 

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I don't have thoughts at the moment because I want to validate as much as I can. There's too many unknowns and so there's about 50 different ways this can/has gone. ;)
 

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Code:
[root@freenas] ~# dmidecode
# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.
79 structures occupying 2376 bytes.
Table at 0x7F7CA000.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
  Vendor: FUJITSU // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
  Version: 6.00 Rev. 1.07.2779.A1
  Release Date: 04/29/2011
  Address: 0xE4270
  Runtime Size: 114064 bytes
  ROM Size: 4096 kB
  Characteristics:
  PCI is supported
  PNP is supported
  BIOS is upgradeable
  BIOS shadowing is allowed
  ESCD support is available
  Boot from CD is supported
  Selectable boot is supported
  EDD is supported
  Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
  8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
  Serial services are supported (int 14h)
  Printer services are supported (int 17h)
  CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
  ACPI is supported
  USB legacy is supported
  BIOS boot specification is supported
  Targeted content distribution is supported
  BIOS Revision: 1.7

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
  Manufacturer: FUJITSU
  Product Name: PRIMERGY TX100 S2
  Version:
  Serial Number: YL4W032792
  UUID: E19543F2-C179-4EC4-96C2-001999B6F9CF
  Wake-up Type: Power Switch
  SKU Number: S26361-Kxxx-Vyyy
  Family: SERVER

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
  Manufacturer: FUJITSU
  Product Name: D2779
  Version: S26361-D2779-A1
  Serial Number: 37724129
  Asset Tag: -
  Features:
  Board is a hosting board
  Board is removable
  Location In Chassis: -
  Chassis Handle: 0x0003
  Type: Motherboard
  Contained Object Handles: 0

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 21 bytes
Chassis Information
  Manufacturer: FUJITSU
  Type: Mini Tower
  Lock: Not Present
  Version: TX100S2F2
  Serial Number: YL4W032792
  Asset Tag:
  Boot-up State: Safe
  Power Supply State: Safe
  Thermal State: Safe
  Security Status: None
  OEM Information: 0x00000000
  Height: Unspecified
  Number Of Power Cords: 1
  Contained Elements: 0

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 42 bytes
Processor Information
  Socket Designation: CPU
  Type: Central Processor
  Family: Other
  Manufacturer: Intel
  ID: 55 06 02 00 FF FB EB BF
  Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540
  Voltage: 1.6 V
  External Clock: 133 MHz
  Max Speed: 3300 MHz
  Current Speed: 3066 MHz
  Status: Populated, Enabled
  Upgrade: Other
  L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005
  L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006
  L3 Cache Handle: 0x0007
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Core Count: 2
  Core Enabled: 2
  Thread Count: 4
  Characteristics:
  64-bit capable

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
  Socket Designation: L1 Cache
  Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
  Operational Mode: Write Through
  Location: Internal
  Installed Size: 128 kB
  Maximum Size: 128 kB
  Supported SRAM Types:
  Unknown
  Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
  Speed: Unknown
  Error Correction Type: Unknown
  System Type: Unified
  Associativity: Other

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
  Socket Designation: L2 Cache
  Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
  Operational Mode: Write Through
  Location: Internal
  Installed Size: 512 kB
  Maximum Size: 512 kB
  Supported SRAM Types:
  Unknown
  Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
  Speed: Unknown
  Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
  System Type: Unified
  Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
  Socket Designation: L3 Cache
  Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 3
  Operational Mode: Write Back
  Location: Internal
  Installed Size: 4096 kB
  Maximum Size: 4096 kB
  Supported SRAM Types:
  Unknown
  Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
  Speed: Unknown
  Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
  System Type: Unified
  Associativity: 16-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: AMD/ATI
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Video
  External Connector Type: DB-15 female
  Port Type: Video Port

Handle 0x0009, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: SMsC
  Internal Connector Type: 25 Pin Dual Inline (pin 26 cut)
  External Reference Designator: PAR
  External Connector Type: None
  Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP

Handle 0x000A, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: SMsC
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Serial-1
  External Connector Type: DB-9 male
  Port Type: Serial Port 16550 Compatible

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: Intel 82578
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: LAN
  External Connector Type: RJ-45
  Port Type: Network Port

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-1
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-2
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: REAR USB
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-3
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x000F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-4
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0010, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-5
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0011, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Rear: USB-6
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0012, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 1
  Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB-7
  External Connector Type: Other
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0013, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 2
  Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB-8
  External Connector Type: Other
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0014, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 3
  Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB-9
  External Connector Type: Other
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0015, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 4
  Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB-10
  External Connector Type: Other
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0016, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 5
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB SSD
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0017, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: USB INT 6
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: Internal: USB STICK
  External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB)
  Port Type: USB

Handle 0x0018, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: SATA 1
  External Connector Type: SAS/SATA Plug Receptacle
  Port Type: SATA

Handle 0x0019, DMI type 8, 9 bytes
Port Connector Information
  Internal Reference Designator: PCH
  Internal Connector Type: None
  External Reference Designator: SATA 2
  External Connector Type: SAS/SATA Plug Receptacle
  Port Type: SATA

Handle 0x001A, DMI type 9, 17 bytes
System Slot Information
  Designation: Slot 1 PCI 32
  Type: 32-bit PCI
  Current Usage: Available
  Length: Long
  ID: 1
  Characteristics:
  5.0 V is provided
  3.3 V is provided
  PME signal is supported
  Bus Address: 0000:11:05.0

Handle 0x001B, DMI type 9, 17 bytes
System Slot Information
  Designation: Slot 2 PCIe x8
  Type: x8 PCI Express
  Current Usage: Available
  Length: Long
  ID: 3
  Characteristics:
  3.3 V is provided
  PME signal is supported
  Bus Address: 0000:81:00.0

Handle 0x001C, DMI type 9, 17 bytes
System Slot Information
  Designation: Slot 3 PCIe x8
  Type: x8 PCI Express
  Current Usage: Available
  Length: Long
  ID: 3
  Characteristics:
  3.3 V is provided
  PME signal is supported
  Bus Address: 0000:81:00.0

Handle 0x001D, DMI type 9, 17 bytes
System Slot Information
  Designation: Slot 4 PCIe x4
  Type: x4 PCI Express
  Current Usage: Available
  Length: Long
  ID: 4
  Characteristics:
  3.3 V is provided
  PME signal is supported
  Bus Address: 0000:83:00.0

Handle 0x001E, DMI type 10, 12 bytes
On Board Device 1 Information
  Type: Other
  Status: Disabled
  Description: SMsC SuperI/O
On Board Device 2 Information
  Type: Other
  Status: Disabled
  Description: Skiron
On Board Device 3 Information
  Type: Ethernet
  Status: Disabled
  Description: Intel 82578
On Board Device 4 Information
  Type: Video
  Status: Disabled
  Description: ATI ES1000

Handle 0x001F, DMI type 11, 5 bytes
OEM Strings
  String 1: FUJITSU
  String 2: FUJITSU
  String 3: FUJITSU TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS

Handle 0x0020, DMI type 12, 5 bytes
System Configuration Options
  Option 1: J18-20: Default position
  Option 2: J16-18: Reserved
  Option 3: J20-22: Recovery BIOS active

Handle 0x0021, DMI type 13, 22 bytes
BIOS Language Information
  Language Description Format: Long
  Installable Languages: 1
  en|US|iso8859-1
  Currently Installed Language: en|US|iso8859-1

Handle 0x0022, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
  Location: System Board Or Motherboard
  Use: System Memory
  Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
  Maximum Capacity: 16 GB
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0023, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: 72 bits
  Data Width: 64 bits
  Size: 2048 MB
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-1A
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0024, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: Unknown
  Data Width: Unknown
  Size: No Module Installed
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-2A
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0025, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: 72 bits
  Data Width: 64 bits
  Size: 2048 MB
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-1B
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0026, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Memory Device
  Array Handle: 0x0022
  Error Information Handle: Not Provided
  Total Width: Unknown
  Data Width: Unknown
  Size: No Module Installed
  Form Factor: DIMM
  Set: None
  Locator: DIMM-2B
  Bank Locator: Not Specified
  Type: DDR3
  Type Detail: Synchronous
  Speed: 1333 MHz
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: Not Specified
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Part Number: Not Specified
  Rank: Unknown

Handle 0x0027, DMI type 18, 23 bytes
32-bit Memory Error Information
  Type: OK
  Granularity: Unknown
  Operation: Unknown
  Vendor Syndrome: Unknown
  Memory Array Address: Unknown
  Device Address: Unknown
  Resolution: Unknown

Handle 0x0028, DMI type 19, 15 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
  Starting Address: 0x00000000000
  Ending Address: 0x000FFFFFFFF
  Range Size: 4 GB
  Physical Array Handle: 0x0022
  Partition Width: 3

Handle 0x0029, DMI type 126, 19 bytes
Inactive

Handle 0x002A, DMI type 126, 19 bytes
Inactive

Handle 0x002B, DMI type 126, 19 bytes
Inactive

Handle 0x002C, DMI type 126, 19 bytes
Inactive

Handle 0x002D, DMI type 24, 5 bytes
Hardware Security
  Power-On Password Status: Disabled
  Keyboard Password Status: Unknown
  Administrator Password Status: Disabled
  Front Panel Reset Status: Unknown

Handle 0x002E, DMI type 32, 11 bytes
System Boot Information
  Status: No errors detected

Handle 0x002F, DMI type 39, 22 bytes
System Power Supply
  Location: Not Specified
  Name: S26113-E551-V70
  Manufacturer: Not Specified
  Serial Number: 101329
  Asset Tag: Not Specified
  Model Part Number: Not Specified
  Revision: GS02 REV09
  Max Power Capacity: 240 W
  Status: Present, Unknown
  Type: Switching
  Input Voltage Range Switching: Unknown
  Plugged: Yes
  Hot Replaceable: No

Handle 0x0030, DMI type 176, 16 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B0 10 30 00 10 00 79 27 00 09 FF FF 02 FF FF FF

Handle 0x0031, DMI type 177, 12 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B1 0C 31 00 11 04 07 01 00 00 00 00

Handle 0x0032, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 32 00 00 10 00 00

Handle 0x0033, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 33 00 01 10 00 00

Handle 0x0034, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 34 00 02 09 00 00

Handle 0x0035, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 35 00 06 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0036, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 36 00 07 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0037, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 37 00 0A 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0038, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 38 00 0B 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0039, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 39 00 0F 10 00 00

Handle 0x003A, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 3A 00 10 02 1E E6

Handle 0x003B, DMI type 185, 51 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 33 3B 00 13 07 02 A1 00 00 00 03 28 00 00 00
  07 0A 00 00 00 2B 2C 00 00 00 2C B3 00 CA 00 2D
  2C 00 00 00 2E B3 00 CA 00 0A 12 67 3C 02 00 00
  00 00 00

Handle 0x003C, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 3C 00 15 10 00 00

Handle 0x003D, DMI type 185, 41 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 29 3D 00 19 07 0E A6 00 D5 00 0F 9F 00 EB 00
  20 19 A6 32 02 22 15 A6 32 02 1F 28 05 00 00 29
  F7 09 00 FB 00 00 00 00 00

Handle 0x003E, DMI type 185, 11 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 0B 3E 00 1C 0F 00 72 00 73 00

Handle 0x003F, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 3F 00 1E 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0040, DMI type 185, 14 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 0E 40 00 1F 02 09 A0 09 A2 09 A4 09 A6

Handle 0x0041, DMI type 185, 12 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 0C 41 00 21 02 01 AC 02 AC 06 AC

Handle 0x0042, DMI type 185, 11 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 0B 42 00 23 0F 03 00 60 EC FF

Handle 0x0043, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 43 00 28 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0044, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 44 00 2A 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0045, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 45 00 31 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0046, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 46 00 32 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0047, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 47 00 33 02 1E E6

Handle 0x0048, DMI type 185, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  B9 08 48 00 FF 00 00 00

Handle 0x0049, DMI type 186, 15 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  BA 0F 49 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Handle 0x004A, DMI type 188, 8 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  BC 08 4A 00 38 38 31 24

Handle 0x004B, DMI type 190, 18 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  BE 12 4B 00 00 03 23 00 00 24 00 00 25 00 00 26
  00 00

Handle 0x004C, DMI type 190, 6 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  BE 06 4C 00 01 00

Handle 0x004D, DMI type 190, 30 bytes
OEM-specific Type
  Header and Data:
  BE 1E 4D 00 02 03 00 04 00 01 04 00 02 04 00 03
  04 00 04 04 00 05 04 00 06 04 00 07 04 00

Handle 0x004E, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
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joeschmuck

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Did you ever run MemTest86+ to see what it reports?
 

rwslippey

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I'm not sure specifically which portion of the debug you wanted so here is the dump from the GUI. If something more specific would be better let me know.
 

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rwslippey

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Did you ever run MemTest86+ to see what it reports?

I did, I apologies I forgot to report back that the memory tested fine, but other then the menu items I didn't see anything about ECC or Error Correction..... Not sure if their was a specific method to testing ECC or testing if ECC was present or not.
 

rwslippey

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On a lighter note, I've started selecting hardware for my new box!

Straight from the recommended hardware list here is what I think I'm going with....

  1. Fractal Designs XL R2 OR Define R4 (Go bigger, leaving more room for expansion, and I HATE tight cases)
  2. X9SCM Board......
  3. Might start with either the Cheapie Pentium G2020 or a mid grade i3 at the start... I haven't decided weather I need the Xeon or not?
  4. Memory is obvious, ECC as much as possible....
  5. Still look for a good PS
  6. Starting with 2 X 4 TB is a RAIDZ 2 configuration... Adding 4 more later, then I'll rotate to larger drives as needed.

Goal is to keep costs down for the initial investment while leaving room for expansion and improvements..... and obviously keeping the costs down where it doesn't hurt data redundancy....
 

Ericloewe

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Did you ever run MemTest86+ to see what it reports?

Memtest 86+ 5.01 never indicated my build had ECC.

I still don't know if it was Memtest 86+ 4.something that had proper ECC detection or if it was Memtest86 (non-plus).
 

cyberjock

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I'd go with an X10 and G3220 personally. Newer generation and not much reason not to do it. ;)
 

cyberjock

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So the debug file and dmidecode wasn't particularly useful. No more questions answered than before. It could be something obscure causing the ff's to be provided, but I can't say much more. You're kind of in this boat where you have to "believe" that ECC works without knowing for 100% certainty. It's about the same as AMD. It's impossible to prove AMD is actually using ECC because there's no tool that validates for 100% certainty. You could simulate an ECC error with dmidecode, but I'm not 100% convinced that it proves you are using ECC. /shrug

I know memtest 4.x+ says ECC or non-ECC, but again that's no indicator for 100% certainty (although plenty of people want to (and do) blindly say that it must be correct).
 

rwslippey

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Thanks for your help, everyone.... This has probably been the most responsive, knowledgeable, and helpful forum I've been a part of and I've been around a lot!....

I'll checkout the hardware you suggested above....

As for this box... I think I'll forgo adding anymore data to it ( currently it's not very sensitive data, as I am pending the memory upgrade) but we'll treat this as a test box I guess.... Obviously I'll be building a new one, so maybe we'll just make this the backup box and build dad his own new box?

Decisions decisions... Again thanks for all the help! Look forward to playing around more here...
 
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