AMD E-350 Thread (now in new forum?)

[Bohs Hansen]

usually that way (plus i got the same board), very rare with consumer boards that support ECC

 

[suffah]

usually that way (plus i got the same board), very rare with consumer boards that support ECC

Glad I posted and you caught it. :)

Is the PCI-E slot still borked on your mb?

 

[Bohs Hansen]

Glad I posted and you caught it. :)

Is the PCI-E slot still borked on your mb?

Yea, don't know if its due to either reason (those i can think off): test bios conflict, slot broken, not x1 compatible .. I made a support ticket, but its weekend so i don't expect an answer before tuesday-thursday.

 

[Kari_Lindstrom]

My setup:

Kari_Lindstrom
Name: RQNas
FreeNAS Version: FreeNAS 8.0.2 64-bit
Case: Zalman MS1000 HS2
PSU: Seasonic X-400FL fanless 400W 80-Plus Gold
Motherboard: Asus E35M1-M Pro
Memory: 2x Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 PC10600/1333MHz CL9 4GB (KVR1333D3N9/4G)
Boot Device: LaCie USB MosKeyto 8GB
Network Card(s): Internal Realtek 8111E (switched off)
Expansion Card(s): Intel PRO/1000 PT Server Adapter (EXPI9400PT)
Disk(s): 4x Samsung EcoGreen F2 HD154UI 32MB 1.5TB
Configuration: RAID-Z2

Performance:
ATT0 = 50MBps read and write, manual copy of 8GB file = 60MBps write and 100MBps read
Issues:
No issues other then broken Realtek 8111E…
__________________________________________________ ______________________

 

[phiku]

Thanks for that impressions of your Systems. I will bought a Asus E35M1-I Motherboard to change from an "old" core duo. First there ist no support for speedstep or it is not running for my CPU cores to reduce power consumption. So, second I would lik to know, if freenas 8 can handle cool 'n' quiet to reduce the cpu frequencies or is their the same problem as the intel core Cpu. Im interested in this board due to the six Sata-ports and low power.

Thanks

 

[JimmyS]

Thanks for that impressions of your Systems. I will bought a Asus E35M1-I Motherboard to change from an "old" core duo. First there ist no support for speedstep or it is not running for my CPU cores to reduce power consumption. So, second I would lik to know, if freenas 8 can handle cool 'n' quiet to reduce the cpu frequencies or is their the same problem as the intel core Cpu. Im interested in this board due to the six Sata-ports and low power.

Thanks

Enabling or disabling powerd (Power Saving Daemon) in GUI doesn't make any difference in power consumption, at least on my configuration. That leads me to believe that Cool 'n Quiet isn't supported.

Anyone else? Did you have success in enabling CPU throttling?

 

[phiku]

Actually it runs with powerd enabled. I think the CPU throttling runs only on CPU 0 and not on CPU 1, because even when I log in the Freenas with ssh, i can grep the CPU action for both cores, but I only see the frequency of the CPU 0 and that they have several power states or throttling steps. And for my surprise, the cpu 0 frequency is fluctuant between 433 and 2400. But I think that is the throttling range and not the speedstep range, because the power consumption in each state is always the same.

Can anybody of you post your result of this "sysctl -a | grep cpu" please!

 

[JimmyS]

Actually it runs with powerd enabled. I think the CPU throttling runs only on CPU 0 and not on CPU 1, because even when I log in the Freenas with ssh, i can grep the CPU action for both cores, but I only see the frequency of the CPU 0 and that they have several power states or throttling steps. And for my surprise, the cpu 0 frequency is fluctuant between 433 and 2400. But I think that is the throttling range and not the speedstep range, because the power consumption in each state is always the same.

Can anybody of you post your result of this "sysctl -a | grep cpu" please!

LOL I am such a beginner in these things... Okay so only CPU 0 is throttling at the moment? Is there a way to enable throttling on CPU 1 too?

Anyway, this is what I get:

Code:

freenas# sysctl -a | grep cpu
kern.ccpu: 0
  <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
    <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
kern.smp.cpus: 2
kern.smp.maxcpus: 32
debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0
debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0
debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1
hw.ncpu: 2
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
machdep.hlt_cpus: 0
security.jail.param.cpuset.id: 0
dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.0.freq: 400
dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1600/4940 1400/4322 1280/3217 1120/2814 960/2412 800/1382 700/1209 600/1036 500/863 400/691 300/518 200/345 100/172
dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 294us
dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 42us
dev.acpi_perf.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.acpi_perf.1.%parent: cpu1
dev.acpi_throttle.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq
dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.hwpstate.0.%parent: cpu0

 

[phiku]

LOL I am such a beginner in these things... Okay so only CPU 0 is throttling at the moment? Is there a way to enable throttling on CPU 1 too?

Anyway, this is what I get:

Code:

freenas# sysctl -a | grep cpu
kern.ccpu: 0
  <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
    <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
kern.smp.cpus: 2
kern.smp.maxcpus: 32
debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0
debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0
debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1
hw.ncpu: 2
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
machdep.hlt_cpus: 0
security.jail.param.cpuset.id: 0
dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.0.freq: 400
dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1600/4940 1400/4322 1280/3217 1120/2814 960/2412 800/1382 700/1209 600/1036 500/863 400/691 300/518 200/345 100/172
dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 294us
dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 42us
dev.acpi_perf.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.acpi_perf.1.%parent: cpu1
dev.acpi_throttle.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq
dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.hwpstate.0.%parent: cpu0

I'm not sure, but I think that cpu 0 frequency throttling means also, that CPU 1 is in the same line - it reduce the frequency in the same way. But for my CPU, in the line of dev.cpu.0.freq_levels behind the "/" is each a "-1" and not something like 4940! So I have run the System und Win7/Ubuntu and it seems so, that there is another problem with the Motherboard. Thanks for your help

 

[headconnect]

Here's mine as well (also, updating front page going to be slightly tricky for everyone due to post/image limits on this forum. :(.. going to see what I can do though)

Code:

Erebus# sysctl -a | grep cpu
kern.ccpu: 0
  <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
    <cpu count="2" mask="0x3">0, 1</cpu>
kern.smp.cpus: 2
kern.smp.maxcpus: 32
debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0
debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0
debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1
hw.ncpu: 2
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
machdep.hlt_cpus: 0
security.jail.param.cpuset.id: 0
dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001
dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.0.freq: 1600
dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1600/4940 1400/4322 1280/3217 1120/2814 960/2412 800/1382 700/1209 600/1036 500/863 400/691 300/518 200/345 100/172
dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 214us
dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU
dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu
dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002
dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0
dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/100
dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1
dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 35us
dev.acpi_perf.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.acpi_perf.1.%parent: cpu1
dev.acpi_throttle.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq
dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.hwpstate.0.%parent: cpu0

 

[JimmyS]

Documenting my setup for future reference:

FreeNAS Version: FreeNAS-8r7166-amd64
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini
PSU: Antec EA-380D Green
Motherboard: Asus E35M1-I DELUXE
Memory: 2x 4GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1066MHz (KVR1066D3N7/4G) running @ 1333MHz
Boot Device: Forza 3 Motorsport USB stick 2GB
Network Card(s): Internal Realtek 8111E
Expansion Card(s): -
Disk(s): 4x Samsung EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB
Configuration: RAID-Z1

Performance:
AFP: manual copy of 8.5GB file = ~41MB/s write and ~52MB/s read
Issues:
None so far.

 

[calgarychris]

FreeNAS Version: FreeNAS-8.0-RELEASE-amd64
Case: Lian-li PC-Q08B
PSU: Corsair 430W v2
Motherboard: Asus E35M1-I DELUXE
Memory: 2x 4GB P.SKILL
Boot Device: Sandisk 4GB USB
Network Card(s): Internal Realtek 8111E
Expansion Card(s): -
Disk(s): 4x Hitachi 5K3000 Desktstar
Configuration: RAID-Z1

Performance:
AFP: manual copy of 5.5GB file = ~41MB/s write and ~65MB/s read

Issues:

Help! My biggest issue is that my system will not boot properly - I have to manually choose the boot device by hitting F8 after post. Has anyone had this issue before? I'm not sure if I have stuffed up the USB stick, but I've tried it with two different USBs, with the same results...It goes into BIOS and displays the USB correctly, but I cannot choose it in the boot priority. I can only load Freenas by choosing boot override. I've tried setting the USB as HDD, floppy, Forced floppy, CD-ROM etc...Can anyone assist.

As a second issue - can anyone comment on my performance speeds? I was hoping for a bit faster...

Thanks!
Chris

 

[JimmyS]

FreeNAS Version: FreeNAS-8.0-RELEASE-amd64
Case: Lian-li PC-Q08B
PSU: Corsair 430W v2
Motherboard: Asus E35M1-I DELUXE
Memory: 2x 4GB P.SKILL
Boot Device: Sandisk 4GB USB
Network Card(s): Internal Realtek 8111E
Expansion Card(s): -
Disk(s): 4x Hitachi 5K3000 Desktstar
Configuration: RAID-Z1

Performance:
AFP: manual copy of 5.5GB file = ~41MB/s write and ~65MB/s read

Issues:

Help! My biggest issue is that my system will not boot properly - I have to manually choose the boot device by hitting F8 after post. Has anyone had this issue before? I'm not sure if I have stuffed up the USB stick, but I've tried it with two different USBs, with the same results...It goes into BIOS and displays the USB correctly, but I cannot choose it in the boot priority. I can only load Freenas by choosing boot override. I've tried setting the USB as HDD, floppy, Forced floppy, CD-ROM etc...Can anyone assist.

As a second issue - can anyone comment on my performance speeds? I was hoping for a bit faster...

Thanks!
Chris

Set the USB as HDD. Have you set up hdd boot priority from BIOS?
In BIOS setup (Advanced mode) first you need to go to:
Boot tab -> Hard drive BBS priorities (scroll down to the bottom) -> select your USB stick as Boot option #1
Then go back to boot tab main view and set your Boot option priorities.

As to the performance, to me it looks like the AFP service is single threaded and its performance is limited by the CPU. Try doing two files simultaneously and you'll probably get faster total transfer speed.

 

[calgarychris]

Set the USB as HDD. Have you set up hdd boot priority from BIOS?
In BIOS setup (Advanced mode) first you need to go to:
Boot tab -> Hard drive BBS priorities (scroll down to the bottom) -> select your USB stick as Boot option #1
Then go back to boot tab main view and set your Boot option priorities.

As to the performance, to me it looks like the AFP service is single threaded and its performance is limited by the CPU. Try doing two files simultaneously and you'll probably get faster total transfer speed.

Thanks for that - I've found that my monitor won't actually display the whole screen, so I'll need to wait to hook it back up to the TV...

Speeds still aren't spectacular - I seem to be getting about 20MB/sec using the old stopwatch approach - I believe I did about 650GB in about 10hrs? *edit* I believe since I was reading off my DNS-323 that would be the limiting factor - Mac to Freenas still transfers ~43MB/sec

What sort of throughput can be expected with this rig? Which protocol is quickest? I have a mix of assets - both my Mac and Boxee Box read AFP, so I've set it up that way but that leaves my Win7 machine out in the cold...I couldn't get NFS to work and getting quick transfers from the Mac to Freenas was the priority.... suggestions?

Thanks!
Chris

 

[calgarychris]

Set the USB as HDD. Have you set up hdd boot priority from BIOS?
In BIOS setup (Advanced mode) first you need to go to:
Boot tab -> Hard drive BBS priorities (scroll down to the bottom) -> select your USB stick as Boot option #1
Then go back to boot tab main view and set your Boot option priorities.

As to the performance, to me it looks like the AFP service is single threaded and its performance is limited by the CPU. Try doing two files simultaneously and you'll probably get faster total transfer speed.

Proving only that if you make something idiot-proof a better idiot will come along! Thank you thank you thank you! Fixed!

The problem was that the BBS priorities option is a page down from the rest of the boot priorities options - I didn't even know it was there - I just kept trying to find different options under boot option priorities...thanks very very much JimmyS - I feel stupid, but at least it's fixed!

 

[tropic]

The problem was that the BBS priorities option is a page down from the rest of the boot priorities options - I didn't even know it was there....

No offense, but it's nice to see I'm not the only one who was outsmarted by the E35M1-I.

 

[JimmyS]

Proving only that if you make something idiot-proof a better idiot will come along! Thank you thank you thank you! Fixed!

The problem was that the BBS priorities option is a page down from the rest of the boot priorities options - I didn't even know it was there - I just kept trying to find different options under boot option priorities...thanks very very much JimmyS - I feel stupid, but at least it's fixed!

You're very much welcome. It took me a good while to figure it out too :)

 

[calgarychris]

Alright, now that my boot from USB is sorted, I can ask - what sort of power saving tricks are fellow E35M1-I Deluxe users out there using? I know there's an option in Freenas for powerd daemon which doesn't appear to be terribly well documented in terms of what it does and how it works...aside from that, does anyone here have or use any WOL tricks? I was wondering if it's possible to have the NAS sleep during the day but WOL if an FTP user hits it or if it gets a packet from my media player? Anyone using it in such a way?

Apologies if this belongs in a different thread...

Thanks

 

[Bohs Hansen]

Little update on my ASUS E35M1-I Deluxe mainboard and the trouble with the PCIe slot. I haven't sent it in yet, cause i could live without it. But now it looks like I have to. It started hard dropping the 2nd sata port.
First I'll check the hdd in another system to make sure it isn't that. So far the Seagate SV35.5 disks perform over expectations though.

 

[hurtz]

I am in love with these E-350 rigs for all the reasons stated so far - space, power, quiet, and wow, the Fractal NAS case, WOW! I have on my newegg wishlist the exact config as headconnect and I'm very close to ordering. The primary purpose for my NAS will be for vSphere 5 training. Are there any special considerations I should add that would benefit a virtual environment?