SOLVED X10SLL Won't Turn On

[GreyKatana]

I agree with you. But let me just tell you, there have been AT LEAST TWO people in the past year with X10 boards that would not start, and the issue was nothing was attached to the FAN A header.

It seems clear, however, that unlike what I thought, this does not necessarily apply to all the models.

Is it a defect of particular units, or a bad implementation of the whole model?

 

[Ericloewe]

Is it a defect or particular units, or a bad implementation of the whole model?

Overzealous idiot-proofing, I'd call it.

 

[anodos]

Overzealous idiot-proofing, I'd call it.

Having worked with lots of idiots (just this week I had a colleague ask me in earnest to replace the batteries in her wired USB mouse), there is no such thing.

 

[GreyKatana]

Nope, it didn't change anything. :( Plugged in Fan A and still zero feedback.

I hope it isn't the CPU because today was the last day to return it to the store, after that I'll have to RMA with Intel.

 

[GreyKatana]

I've been able to confirm that the case and the PSU were correct. I think that the RAM is OK too because usually motherboards power-up and then beep if there is a RAM problem. I have no way of testing CPU but I'd be surprised if it was bad.

So I'll go ahead and RMA the motherboard. Thanks guys for all your suggestions.

 

[DrKK]

I've been able to confirm that the case and the PSU were correct. I think that the RAM is OK too because usually motherboards power-up and then beep if there is a RAM problem. I have no way of testing CPU but I'd be surprised if it was bad.

So I'll go ahead and RMA the motherboard. Thanks guys for all your suggestions.

Please let us know what the resolution is. Bad motherboard from SuperMicro, from brand new stock, is uncommon.

 

[Ericloewe]

By the way, finally remembered to check my server (X10SLM+-F):

Code:

[root@freenas] ~# ipmitool sensor
CPU Temp         | 34.000     | degrees C  | ok    | 0.000     | 0.000     | 0.000     | 95.000    | 98.000    | 100.000
System Temp      | 29.000     | degrees C  | ok    | -9.000    | -7.000    | -5.000    | 80.000    | 85.000    | 90.000
Peripheral Temp  | 38.000     | degrees C  | ok    | -9.000    | -7.000    | -5.000    | 80.000    | 85.000    | 90.000
PCH Temp         | 46.000     | degrees C  | ok    | -11.000   | -8.000    | -5.000    | 90.000    | 95.000    | 100.000
VRM Temp         | 38.000     | degrees C  | ok    | -9.000    | -7.000    | -5.000    | 87.000    | 92.000    | 97.000
DIMMA1 Temp      | na         |            | na    | na        | na        | na        | na        | na        | na
DIMMA2 Temp      | 30.000     | degrees C  | ok    | 1.000     | 2.000     | 4.000     | 80.000    | 85.000    | 90.000
DIMMB1 Temp      | na         |            | na    | na        | na        | na        | na        | na        | na
DIMMB2 Temp      | 30.000     | degrees C  | ok    | 1.000     | 2.000     | 4.000     | 80.000    | 85.000    | 90.000
FAN1             | na         |            | na    | na        | na        | na        | na        | na        | na
FAN2             | 800.000    | RPM        | ok    | 300.000   | 400.000   | 500.000   | 3600.000  | 3700.000  | 3800.000
FAN3             | 1000.000   | RPM        | ok    | 300.000   | 400.000   | 500.000   | 3700.000  | 3800.000  | 3900.000
FAN4             | 800.000    | RPM        | ok    | 300.000   | 400.000   | 500.000   | 3600.000  | 3700.000  | 3800.000
FANA             | na         |            | na    | na        | na        | na        | na        | na        | na
Vcpu             | 1.755      | Volts      | ok    | 1.242     | 1.260     | 1.395     | 1.899     | 2.088     | 2.106
VDIMM            | 1.453      | Volts      | ok    | 1.096     | 1.124     | 1.201     | 1.642     | 1.719     | 1.747
12V              | 12.000     | Volts      | ok    | 10.164    | 10.521    | 10.776    | 12.918    | 13.224    | 13.224
5VCC             | 4.969      | Volts      | ok    | 4.225     | 4.380     | 4.473     | 5.372     | 5.527     | 5.589
3.3VCC           | 3.344      | Volts      | ok    | 2.804     | 2.894     | 2.969     | 3.554     | 3.659     | 3.689
VBAT             | 3.045      | Volts      | ok    | 2.400     | 2.490     | 2.595     | 3.495     | 3.600     | 3.690
AVCC             | 3.329      | Volts      | ok    | 2.399     | 2.489     | 2.594     | 3.494     | 3.599     | 3.689
VSB              | 3.284      | Volts      | ok    | 2.399     | 2.489     | 2.594     | 3.494     | 3.599     | 3.689
Chassis Intru    | 0x0        | discrete   | 0x0000| na        | na        | na        | na        | na        | na

No fan in FANA, as suggested by Supermicro's statement that FAN# are controlled by CPU temp and FANA by what ends up being the PCH temp, probably. Everything works fine.

 

[DrKK]

Well we've definitely had people whose servers didn't start (various X10's), and when they put the fan on FAN A, it started. I am definitely not making that up.
100% sure I'm not making that up. So you guys seem to be saying that any of us can run an X10 of more or less any model with nothing on FAN A, and it will start up fine.

I'd like to know what the hell's going on. The two facts seem to be contradictory---but the evidence is overwhelming now that several smart people have reported that they can run the X10's with no fans on FAN A. So I am at a loss as to explain why several users in the past had non-starting-up X10 boards suddenly start up when they put the fan on FAN A. Maybe that was true in a previous BIOS or something?

 

[BigDave]

I built the Wife a desktop a few months back with an X10SLM+-F / G3258

The Supermicro Quick Reference Guide 1.0a lists FAN1 as the CPU header.
I can't access the BIOS right now to confirm the version, but the better half
will head out on a shopping trip soon and I'll sneak a peek while she's out ;)

 

[DrKK]

I built the Wife a desktop a few months back with an X10SLM+-F / G3258

The Supermicro Quick Reference Guide 1.0a lists FAN1 as the CPU header.
I can't access the BIOS right now to confirm the version, but the better half
will head out on a shopping trip soon and I'll sneak a peek while she's out ;)

You guys are really destroying my world now.

 

[BigDave]

Just checked and 4pin stock Intel CPU cooler is plugged into FANA header.
BIOS reads: Model X10SLM+-F, version 2.00, Build date 4/24/2014
BIOS version confirmed with CPUz

 

[Ericloewe]

Maybe that was true in a previous BIOS or something?

Seems odd, but I can't immediately rule that out. When I first assembled my server, the CPU fan was in FAN A and I immediately updated to the 2.x BIOS.

 

[ethereal]

i found this on newegg for the X10slmm+-F. I know this isn't the same board as the OP but this is a boot problem which supermicro support hadn't heard about. It maybe worth considering.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182823

Other Thoughts: When I first bought this motherboard I could not get it to boot correctly. It would POST fine but the second any OS started to load, it would power off. Called support and they had never heard of this issue before and didn't know what was causing it. Turns out, it was the power supply I was using...a Corsair 430W. For some reason this PSU requires a a certain load threshold or it will act strange. I was finally able to boot by hooking up extra HDDs to increase the wattage load but this is only a temporary solution. Bottom line, don't use a cheap power supply like I did.

 

[GreyKatana]

Little update here, the vendor has accepted the RMA after verification so I guess this means that they could also confirm the problem. Will keep you guys up to date once the replacement board comes in.

On the power supply side, I have a Seasonic G-360 has recommended by the fine folks on these boards. It could power-up my FM2 motherboard but not the X10.

 

[GreyKatana]

Got the replacement board yesterday, plugged everything tonight (with the heatsink fan in FAN 1) and voila! It turned on as soon as I plugged the power.
Now it's happily doing memtest+ and I'm on my way on having a nice little FreeNAS server.

Thanks everyone for the help. Guess I was unlucky to have received a DOA X10 board but lucky to have found an helpful community.

 

[DrKK]

Got the replacement board yesterday, plugged everything tonight (with the heatsink fan in FAN 1) and voila! It turned on as soon as I plugged the power.
Now it's happily doing memtest+ and I'm on my way on having a nice little FreeNAS server.

Thanks everyone for the help. Guess I was unlucky to have received a DOA X10 board but lucky to have found an helpful community.

Thank you for keeping us posted. Bad motherboards from SuperMicro are really quite rare, but I suppose that they do happen. I think everyone learned at least a little something from your thread here, I know I did.

Good luck sir, and happy FreeNASsing.