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variable

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Just setup the freenas on an old box:

- Asus P5LD2
- 2GB of RAM
- Marvell NIC
- 2 x 3TB WD
- OS installed on sandisk 16GB
- DHCP

It starts up fine and I was able to connect to the web UI, but after maybe 30 mins, the web UI started to fail, tried to ping it but says network is down. I am sure the system still works since when I press the power button it shuts down gracefully.
 

5m1l3

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try use static ip. if it still fail after some time, check network card.
 

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Your motherboard is old and unsuitable for FreeNAS. Take a look at the hardware stickies and read the documentation to see what's required for FreeNAS 9.x.

If you saw something on the 'net that said, turn your old computer into a server using FreeNAS, you are in the wrong place. Those articles are old. FreeNAS 0.7 became NAS4free (nas4free.org) and a new FreeNAS was born. You might want to head on over to NAS4free and try their software. It might run on your hardware.
 

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I can tell you from personal experience that 2Gb is a no go. I actually tried this on an old AMD system when I was first playing around with FreeNAS, many versions ago. And if you are running the 32bit version - forget it.

The latest versions of FreeNAS use the ZFS file system, which will not run on a 2Gb memory machine. Period. As was suggested by gpsguy, you can try NAS4Free, but you will have to stick with UFS file system. NAS4Free with ZFS will have similar memory requirements to FreeNAS.
 

5m1l3

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zfs need ram only if deduplication enabled. i use FreeNAS with 2GB ram long time, and it stable.
 

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NAS4Free's documentation claims to run on a smaller footprint than FreeNAS. According to their doc's "For using ZFS, we recommend a absolute minimum of 1 GB RAM and using a 64-bits install by using the NAS4Free-x64 releases." Other than glance at their doc's now and them, I've never used their product.

NAS4Free with ZFS will have similar memory requirements to FreeNAS.

@5m1l3 - please don't advocate using ZFS on FreeNAS with 2Gb of RAM. We've seen a number of users loose their pools, due to using too little RAM. For deduplication, the thumbrule is 5Gb RAM per 1Tb of storage, with no upper limit.
 

Ericloewe

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zfs need ram only if deduplication enabled. i use FreeNAS with 2GB ram long time, and it stable.

Please refrain from dangerous comments. Using so little RAM will very easily lead to data loss, and that is something nobody here wants to be responsible for.
 

pschatz100

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zfs need ram only if deduplication enabled. i use FreeNAS with 2GB ram long time, and it stable.
I would say this is not entirely correct. If you read best practices for ZFS, you will often come across the mantra that one should have 1Gb of memory for each Tb of data and that 8Gb is a practical minimum. It is not just a FreeNAS bias: try searching forums outside of FreeNAS and you will find many comments to this effect. Certainly, under certain situations one can get by with less: one or two small disks without redundancy, perhaps a small mirror, but there will be significant safety and performance compromises. I actually tried FreeNAS 9 on an old 2Gb setup to see what would happen - it was not pretty and I wouldn't waste my time with it.

Back in the old FreeNAS 7 days, I ran a system with 2Gb RAM, using ext2 on a single 2Tb WD green drive. It worked just fine, but it was a file repository - nothing more. With FreeNAS 8 (the first version that supported plugins) I had to increase the memory to 4Gb and remained on ext2 filesystem. When I decided to update to FreeNAS 9, I also upgraded hardware because I wanted to use ZFS. I have had no problems except those I created myself by doing something stupid.

Last thought: you can look at memory performance in the Webgui to see how much memory is being used by your system. For my current home system with a 2x2Tb mirror, the system has allocated about 6.5Gb memory. For a large Raidz or Raidz2 array, it would allocate much more.

OK, one more thought: If you look at the signatures of the frequent posters on the NAS4free site, you will commonly see configurations that have more than 8Gb of RAM. Just because they make the claim that you can run the system in 1Gb of memory doesn't mean that you would want to.
 

variable

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I don't need deduplication, is there a way to turn it off, I don't recall seeing that option in the GUI. BTW, when I added drive in storage gui using "mirror" does that mean it's setup as software RAID 1?
 

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Have you even looked in the manual to try to answer your question about deduplication? Actually, I don't need to ask that--your asking the question shows that you haven't. It's in the table of contents and everything.
 

5m1l3

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I just want to say, variable's server connection toubles not depend from ram size. But i not say - use small ram in production.
 
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