Home NAS (w/ Plex + MythTV/TVHeadEnd jails)

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imaack

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Case: U-NAS NSC-410 Server Chassis with Power Supply http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17638&cat=249&page=1
CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NADEVZI/
MB: ASRock C236 WSI Mini ITX Server https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B96248O/
Memory: 2xKingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 2133 RAM (Server Memory) ECC Intel Validated DIMM (288-Pin) KVR21E15D8/8I https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242310
Boot Drive: Old OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (55GB) (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550)
Storage: 2x4TB WD Red (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236599&ignorebbr=1)

Usage:
This is a pretty typical home NAS / DVR, looking to move the HTPC out of the living room (and just use Plex clients). It will go into my office where space is a bit of premium and aesthetics are important to me so that's why I chose the case. Looking to record TV and store recordings as well as any large/precious files such as family photos etc and some frequently watched digitized versions of our DVD/Blu-Ray collection. I imagine I'll be doing max 1-2 simultaneous transcodes so I think the CPU is adequate.

Concerns:
Some reviewers on newegg said the MB does not supports ECC but I think it was simply a non-compatible ECC memory. Reviewers with the Kingston memory I listed had no problems. If there are any cheaper memory options or a place where I can research it please let me know.

Appreciate your feedback.
 

DrKK

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Definitely should support ECC.

But it's definitely not a server board. This is a "workstation" board. No IPMI, has audio, has a bunch of video ports (incl. HDMI), etc., a whole bunch of mobo resources and power wasted on things that are useless for a FreeNAS.

Would not have recommended this board sir for a server.

But it definitely takes ECC.
 

imaack

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I could definitely do without the audio and HDMI but I don't really mind them terribly. I've never used IPMI and some Newegg reviews indicate that SuperMicro IPMI is kind of buggy so I'm not sure I want to go out of my way to get a feature like that that I could replace with a software solution. That being said, do you have any suggestions for a budget friendly Mini-ITX "server" board w/ECC support? Preferably under $200... The ~$850 cost for the build I posted is already exceeding what I wanted to spend and I know this won't get any blessings here but I'm seriously considering dropping the ECC requirement and saving myself ~$175 between a cheaper MB and RAM.
 

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The point of IPMI is you can't replace it with a SW solution ;)

It allows you to remotely modify the BIOS settings, and connect ISOs etc, even before installing an OS.

Most of my servers have never had a keyboard or monitor connected to them... ever.

(One exception was when I fried the IPMI install during a botched IPMI upgrade recently (Ie updating the buggy java using supermicro IPMI to the all singing all dancing HTML5 redfish version). Easy fix. But needed a monitor/keyboard ;)
 

imaack

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I guess I don't anticipate making a lot of BIOS changes after I get things configured and for OS level access I can absolutely replace that with a software solution. That being said, I'm not against IPMI by any means, I just don't place a high value on it because I don't mind having to connect KVM to the computer in the rare occasion I think I'll need it.

I certainly don't want to come across as argumentative, I really appreciate the experts spending their time to provide feedback on my plans. Just trying to work through the bias we all bring to the table.
 

SweetAndLow

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Much cheaper and better solution since you only need 2-4 drives would be hp ml10, Dell t20/t30 or Lenovo ts140. You would get ipmi on some, sever motherboard and a better processor. I saw the ml10 for $179 the other day with an i3. Then you just have to buy an extra 16GB memory stick and you have a killer build. 4tb drives are $118 right now so I just built you a better system for half the price.

You also mention dropping ecc motherboard for a cheaper motherboard. I can guarantee you that the cheaper motherboard will not even boot freenas. Go with what people suggest because other stuff doesn't work.

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Stux

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I can guarantee you that the cheaper motherboard will not even boot freenas

Huh?

ECC is not a requirement to boot FreeNAS.

Its a recommendation for a stable system with high integrity. Nothing more.
 

imaack

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so I just built you a better system for half the price

I'm not just looking for performance. As I mentioned, size and aesthetics are important so the HP/Dell/Lenovo do not meet my criteria and the U-NAS case has some other nice features. The Mini-ITX form factor is a restricting requirement for sure. The ASRock Rack C236 (and the older ASRock Rack C226) are the only Mini-ITX boards listed in the hardware guide, I guess for a reason.

We can debate the individual merits I suppose, but from what I hear there's no gaping hole in this build so that's all I really needed to verify. Appreciate you all taking the time to comment.
 

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Case: U-NAS NSC-410 Server Chassis with Power Supply http://www.u-nas.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17638&cat=249&page=1
CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NADEVZI/
MB: ASRock C236 WSI Mini ITX Server https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B96248O/
Memory: 2xKingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 2133 RAM (Server Memory) ECC Intel Validated DIMM (288-Pin) KVR21E15D8/8I https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242310
Boot Drive: Old OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (55GB) (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550)
Storage: 2x4TB WD Red (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236599&ignorebbr=1)

Usage:
This is a pretty typical home NAS / DVR, looking to move the HTPC out of the living room (and just use Plex clients). It will go into my office where space is a bit of premium and aesthetics are important to me so that's why I chose the case. Looking to record TV and store recordings as well as any large/precious files such as family photos etc and some frequently watched digitized versions of our DVD/Blu-Ray collection. I imagine I'll be doing max 1-2 simultaneous transcodes so I think the CPU is adequate.

Concerns:
Some reviewers on newegg said the MB does not supports ECC but I think it was simply a non-compatible ECC memory. Reviewers with the Kingston memory I listed had no problems. If there are any cheaper memory options or a place where I can research it please let me know.

Appreciate your feedback.
I would get a better cpu if you plan on transcoding stuff, especially if you plan on running other jails also. I would also get 16GB of memory, your description is confusing so maybe you are already. I also don't think a 250w power supply is going to work. With 4 drives I would like to see 400w I think.

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