High performances With Freenas 9.3 and Windows 10

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Asimov1973

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Hello,
I dicovered that file transfer using SAMBA under windows 10 it's a lot faster than with Windows 7...here my experience:

I have a PC with windows 7 and utorrent and I use to save my files in a samba shared folder on my nas called TEMP. when the torrent are finished I rename them and I drag and drop them in a samba shared folder on my nas called MOVIES. I always used to have performances around 30-35Mb/s copying files between two folder on the same nas using windows....and actually deactivating temporarily kaspersky I was used to reach transfers between 75-95 Mb/s....
Yesterday I updated to Windows 10 and even if I installed immediately START10 for make it look more like windows 7 ('cause I hate all the little stupid tiles) I was shocked in seeing that when I drag and drop a movie (like 3-4 GB) from TEMP to MOVIES it actually copy it INSTANTLY! NO stupid animated folder whatsoever....no transfer rate bar.....BAM! IT'S COPIED....at first I was convinced that the copy was corrupted so I went to MOVIES, I opened my movie with VLC and I jumped back and forward in the movie which was seeing perfectly.....I then downloaded another movie, using torrent, in the folder TEMP, I drag it in the folder MOVIES once it finished and BAM! AGAIN! INSTANT COPY! I must say that I will now keep Windows 10 JUST for this reason.....I'm impressed.
 

shnurov

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This is interesting, as I am battling with Samba slowdowns at the moment, whereas my AFP shares give me as much as 117MB/s windows 8.1 REFUSES to give more than 65~MB/s...

I am wondering that this is related to, but it would definitely want me to upgrade!
 

SweetAndLow

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What is your max protocol version? I suspect it is smb3 and your client just now supports server side copy as long as you are copy data to and from the same share.
 

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What is your max protocol version? I suspect it is smb3 and your client just now supports server side copy as long as you are copy data to and from the same share.
Windows does all sorts of random stupid stuff when accessing shares that isn't protocol-related. Exhibit A - reports of better performance under Linux clients. It's possible MS decided to dial back the stupidity in 10.
 

Asimov1973

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Hello it's still SMB2_10 as I configured one and a half year ago when I first installed FreeNas for my first time in my life...Max protocol
SMB3 (optimized for windows 8 and over) was giving me problems with windows 7 (at the time I had FreeNas 9.1.1). Maybe, even if set max SMB2_10, it's working in SMB3 mode due to a sort of "autosensing" between Freenas and Windows?
 

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Hello it's still SMB2_10 as I configured one and a half year ago when I first installed FreeNas for my first time in my life...Max protocol
SMB3 (optimized for windows 8 and over) was giving me problems with windows 7 (at the time I had FreeNas 9.1.1). Maybe, even if set max SMB2_10, it's working in SMB3 mode due to a sort of "autosensing" between Freenas and Windows?
On windows client, run "powershell-ise" as administrator and type "get-smbconnection". This will show what dialect of SMB you are using when connecting to the server.
 

Asimov1973

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PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Get-SmbConnection

ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens
---------- --------- -------- ---------- ------- --------
Freenas ftp_server Dualcore64\Asimov1973 Dualcore64\Asimov1973 2.1 1

PS don't mind my pc name "Dualcore64"...is not a Dualcore anymore since 2011.... :)
 

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Hello it's still SMB2_10 as I configured one and a half year ago when I first installed FreeNas for my first time in my life...Max protocol
SMB3 (optimized for windows 8 and over) was giving me problems with windows 7 (at the time I had FreeNas 9.1.1). Maybe, even if set max SMB2_10, it's working in SMB3 mode due to a sort of "autosensing" between Freenas and Windows?
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> Get-SmbConnection

ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens
---------- --------- -------- ---------- ------- --------
Freenas ftp_server Dualcore64\Asimov1973 Dualcore64\Asimov1973 2.1 1

PS don't mind my pc name "Dualcore64"...is not a Dualcore anymore since 2011.... :)
Well, as you can see, they have negotiated an SMB 2.10 connection.

That being said, you are seeing server-side-copy in action. Server-side-copy was introduced as part of spec for SMB 2.10, but not supported by the file manager in Windows 7. File explorer in Win8+ supports it.
 
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