Build Advice

[kirkdickinson]

I keep lurking here and have the funds to pull the trigger and order stuff for a build. I keep going back and forth. I need to replace an old WinXP server that has a RAID 6 with only 2.2 TB of storage. (5 750 Gig drives)
I also have 2TB of Video stuff that just keep on a main drive in my workstation and have an a B and a C drive that I manually mirror that to. Starting requirements at a bare minimum have to be 4TB just to copy what I have. I don't like to do anything on computers unless I double it, so I am thinking I need 8TB or more.

Am thinking about running a 4TB x 6 drive in Z3 for about 8.5 usable space. (using this calculator: https://jsfiddle.net/Biduleohm/hfqdpbLm/10/embedded/result/) I won't be filling this up anytime soon, so I can just rotate a couple 6TB drives in and out of a hot-swap bay to backup the array.

Here is what I have in my NewEgg Wishlist right now:


6 - WD Red WD40EFRX 4TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" NAS Internal Hard Drive - B
Capacity: 4TBPACKAGE: N/AStyle: N/A
Model #:WD40EFRX
Item #:9SIA2W01A21484
$178.95 $1,073.70

iStarUSA D400L7-DE8BK Steel 4U Rackmount High Performance Quiet Server Chassis
Model #:D400L7-DE8BK
Item #:N82E16811165389
$375.99

SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SL7-F-O Micro ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1150 Intel C222 DDR3 1600
Model #:MBD-X10SL7-F-O
Item #:N82E16813182821
$249.99

SUPERMICRO SSD-DM032-PHI SATA DOM (SuperDOM) Solutions
Model #:SSD-DM032-PHI
Item #:N82E16816139090
$69.99

SeaSonic S12G-450 450W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply, Intel Haswell Ready
Model #:S12G-450
Item #:N82E16817151139
$69.99

Intel Xeon E3-1231V3 Haswell 3.4 GHz LGA 1150 80W BX80646E31231V3 Server Processor
Model #:BX80646E31231V3
Item #:N82E16819117316
$254.99

4 - Crucial 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Server Memory Model CT102472BA160B
Model #:CT102472BA160B
Item #:N82E16820191593
$62.99 $251.96

Total: $2,346.61

 

[Jailer]

Looks good apart from the price on those drives. Amazon has them for $149.00 and shows them in stock as of this writing.

It all depends on your level of risk assessment but you could probably be safe running a RAIDZ2 vdev and gain some more usable space. Remember usable space is 80% of your formatted pool space after parity. The drive space calculator should show you that info for comparison purposes.

 

[kirkdickinson]

Cool, thanks. I may just pull the trigger on these parts.

Kirk

 

[Nick2253]

I agree with Jailer: RAIDZ2 would probably be enough for your needs.

For your case, I'd recommend looking for second-hand SuperMicro cases on eBay. They'll be both cheaper and better built than what you'd be getting new. Something like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3U-Rack-mou...Bay-Storage-/161841224555?hash=item25ae7d1b6b (Note, this is not a recommendation of that particular seller, or a recommendation of that particular product, just an idea to get you started.)

Otherwise, that looks good.

 

[kirkdickinson]

That looks like a good idea. I have an old server tower, but it is absolutely Huge. I wanted something more compact like a rack mount. I have more room for that.

Opinions about the power supplies in that sample? I am not really familiar with this type of case. In the environment that that server case came from, are those three power supplies redundant backup power supplies or do they all run at the same time?

If I were to get something like this, would I be better scrapping the included power supply and going ahead and getting what I have in my list?

 

[Nick2253]

You can get more specs on the PSUs from SuperMicro's website. Personally, a single PSU was an acceptable risk for me, so I went with that for my server. It's up to you what your acceptable risk is. For home use, I'd say efficiency is pretty important, and I don't know how efficient those PSUs are. If they aren't very efficient, you might want to replace them.

Also, I wouldn't exactly call a rack-mount server "compact". If you want something compact, look at micro-atx or mini-itx builds.

 

[BigDave]

That looks like a good idea. I have an old server tower, but it is absolutely Huge. I wanted something more compact like a rack mount. I have more room for that.

Opinions about the power supplies in that sample? I am not really familiar with this type of case. In the environment that that server case came from, are those three power supplies redundant backup power supplies or do they all run at the same time?

If I were to get something like this, would I be better scrapping the included power supply and going ahead and getting what I have in my list?

The issue of power supplies with used server chassis' can be problematic. IMHO if I was to purchase a rack mount type enclosure,
I would look for something that would mount an ATX power supply so I could change out the old for the new. Plus, most lower cost
used equipment comes with inefficiant units with high wattage power. Used equipment can save you $, but be sure before pulling
the trigger so as to not end up with something that ends up sitting around.

 

[kirkdickinson]

Also, I wouldn't exactly call a rack-mount server "compact". If you want something compact, look at micro-atx or mini-itx builds.

Well, I don't necessarily mean compact, but I have some shelves where I can put a rack mount and don't have a good place to put a server tower.

 

[kirkdickinson]

I agree with Jailer: RAIDZ2 would probably be enough for your needs.

For your case, I'd recommend looking for second-hand SuperMicro cases on eBay. They'll be both cheaper and better built than what you'd be getting new. Something like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3U-Rack-mou...Bay-Storage-/161841224555?hash=item25ae7d1b6b (Note, this is not a recommendation of that particular seller, or a recommendation of that particular product, just an idea to get you started.)

Otherwise, that looks good.

Well, I actually bought that exact case and it is a really nice case. Too bad the seller lied to me and told me that an ATX power supply would fit in there. I now have three choices and don't much like any of them.

1. I am going to have to use the redundant power supply in it, but I think it will be a power hungry beast. 760 watt (3-380 modules which I don't understand)
2. Sell this on Ebay and start over.
3. Try to find a different power supply for this case.

Should have listened to BigDave. Lesson learned.

 

[kirkdickinson]

Just ordered pretty much what I wanted in the beginning from Newegg. I know I could have saved money with a regular tower and not having Hot Swap, but this is what I wanted.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165612