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[fvargasfrank]

This is the type of setup i will be going with, I will mostly be storing movies, Shows, and anime,
I will be running Plex and SABNZB with anime sickbeard. Maybe run a 1 or 2 VM of windows

Intel Xeon E3 1231V3 $209.99 Micro Center
SuperMicro x10sl7-f $246.59 Amazon
CT16G3ERSLD4160B $149.00 Newegg
seasonic SSR-550RM $89.66 Newegg

I will be using my old case, I have aquestion about the HDD
Toshiba 5TB 7,200 RPM SATA III 6.0Gb/s $140 Micro center , I might get 2 or 3 of these
I also have two old 3TB HDD that i will be putting in this box

I was reading and a lot of the people go with the Red WB, they cost about $110 for 3TB

What do you guys suggest ?

 

[joeschmuck]

You might be in for a letdown on your running of windoze VMs, your system isn't quite tailored for that type of operation, it will be slow.

You need to figure out what configuration you plan to put your hard drives into (RAID Z1, Z2, Mirrored). What capacity are you looking for and how secure do you want your data?

As for hard drives, everything you mentioned above except for the VMs will be fine with slower hard drives. VMs would required a much faster and expensive hard drive setup and more RAM. But you did say maybe VMs so if your other mentioned items are the real driving force, I'd go with 5400/5200 RPM type drives. If your data is a just video streaming then you could get away with RAIDZ1 but most people would steer you towards RAIDZ2 (I would too). How much space do you need? Now double it because you can't easily add more drives to extend your current volume of data later using the ZFS file system (what FreeNAS uses). Use the RAID calculator in my signature to figure out how many drives you need to hit the capacity you desire.

 

[jgreco]

Moderator note: moved to new user forum.

Be aware that it may be penny-wise pound-foolish to get smaller drives. Consider that your components are costing around $600. If you get two 3TB Red to get a 4 disk RAIDZ2, you'll spend around $820 to get 6TB of usable space, or about $137/TB. If you get four new 5TB Red's for a 4 disk RAIDZ2, you'll be spending around $1160 to get 10TB of usable space, or about $116/TB.

So if you went with the 5TB'ers you could then take your two 3TB drives and put them into a mirror config for use with VM's. Wouldn't be rocket fast but would be a good compromise.

Presumably you plan to have a fair number of drives right away or maybe want some expandability in the future, else the SL7 board and 550W power supply might be a bit of overkill. If you knew you would never want want more than six disks, you could reduce the cost of your system a little by picking something like the X10SLM and a Seasonic 450W.

 

[fvargasfrank]

Oh i see, i would need 4 5tb disk vs buying 2 3tb hdd, i was under the impression that i would be able to create a pool of HDD and then created the zfs. Like having all different size hardrive to create a big one and then create the backup of the pool of HDD.

 

[SweetAndLow]

Read the noob presentation it will fix your assumptions that are incorrect.

 

[fvargasfrank]

Moderator note: moved to new user forum.

Be aware that it may be penny-wise pound-foolish to get smaller drives. Consider that your components are costing around $600. If you get two 3TB Red to get a 4 disk RAIDZ2, you'll spend around $820 to get 6TB of usable space, or about $137/TB. If you get four new 5TB Red's for a 4 disk RAIDZ2, you'll be spending around $1160 to get 10TB of usable space, or about $116/TB.

So if you went with the 5TB'ers you could then take your two 3TB drives and put them into a mirror config for use with VM's. Wouldn't be rocket fast but would be a good compromise.

Presumably you plan to have a fair number of drives right away or maybe want some expandability in the future, else the SL7 board and 550W power supply might be a bit of overkill. If you knew you would never want want more than six disks, you could reduce the cost of your system a little by picking something like the X10SLM and a Seasonic 450W.

By going to the sl7 i would be saving about $100 or less, but then what if in the future i want to add more HDD, as of right at this moment i will be having 4 HDD but as i get more comfortable in using this i might want to add more, thats the reason im going with this setup so i would have to bother later with changing stuff. That's why im only going with a single 16 gb stick so later i can buy an extra 16gb so i can have a total of 32gb.

 

[jgreco]

Good thing you pointed that out. Wrong memory. Follow my instructions for identifying the correct memory for your board please (scroll down to "Memory" section).

 

[Ericloewe]

Good thing you pointed that out. Wrong memory. Follow my instructions for identifying the correct memory for your board please (scroll down to "Memory" section).

Or read the Haswell (as opposed to Haswell-EP or EX) Supermicro X10-specific Memory Recommendations guide.

 

[jgreco]

Either way. Point being, don't guess. Rely on some competent authority to help guide your selection process.

 

[fvargasfrank]

Ok i will be going with CT2KIT102472BD160B by crucial. lol i was going to order the dual RAM at the beginning but then i saw the single stick and oh well the single should be better. Thank you for pointing this out, i just pick the processor form Microcenter.

 

[cyberjock]

Either way. Point being, don't guess. Rely on some competent authority to help guide your selection process.

Oh, the irony of this post considering another thread jgreco and I recently posted to.

 

[jgreco]

Oh, the irony of this post considering another thread jgreco and I recently posted to.

Can you be just a little more vague there.

 

[cyberjock]

Can you be just a little more vague there.

The thread about the Highpoint 750. ;)

 

[fvargasfrank]

One more question guys can use this mother board
Supermicro X10SLA-F LGA
or
Supermicro X10SLL-F LGA
They have this in stock at Micro Center, i dont know how are these comparable to the one i was going to buy, i already purchase the processor from micro center and saw this two mother board.

 

[jgreco]

You probably don't want the SLA. That's got a bunch of PCI slots on it. The SLL is slightly better, but you're better off with the SL7 if you need lots of drive expandability.

 

[fvargasfrank]

lol the SLA is 100 open box at micro center, i was thinking on staring with that board cause i can get an extra 20 since i bought the proccesor, im only going with 6 driver as of right now, i was thinking in using the money i save in an extra 16 gb of RAM

 

[jgreco]

You might be sorry later. But then again, you can still add a M1015 to the SLA if you need more ports. It just doesn't feel like a compelling choice though.

 

[fvargasfrank]

so you think is worth it to spend the extra $15o on that sl7 with 16gb of ram ?

 

[jgreco]

Well, you have to ask yourself, what might you do in the future.

The SLA board seems particularly bad as a choice because it is limited to two PCIe slots; the other slots are all PCI. It's a special purpose server board.

The SLL board has three PCIe slots.

The SL7 has two PCIe slots but also an integrated HBA.

They all support six SATA directly. So if you were never going to go for more than six drives, I'd guess any of them are "okay."

If you need to expand beyond six drives, the integrated HBA is nice, else you burn a slot on a M1015 or other HBA. From that point of view, the SLL and SL7 are equivalent: they have two slots left in addition to a HBA. It's just a now or later sort of thing as to when you acquire the HBA.

If you need to add a HBA to the SLA, then you are down to one slot free. Now, that MIGHT be just dandy. But if you might someday want to upgrade to 10gigE or go beyond 14 drives, you'll find that slots are precious commodities. If that doesn't seem like an issue to you, you're in the best position to make that call.

So, figure out if you might want 10gigE someday along with more than 14 drives. If the answer is "maybe" or "yes," perhaps the SLA is the wrong board for you. Otherwise, it is merely an unusual board, but I understand the cost concern.

 

[fvargasfrank]

Ok, i have some thinking to do, I really appreciate all the help, Im leaning more toward the SLA, This is my first time for a NAS and the way electronic work by the time i want to upgrade their will be better and cheaper equipment lol.