SOLVED Will FreeNAS 11.1 get FreeBSD 11.2, eventually?

[Patrick M. Hausen]

Hi!

FreeNAS 11.2 is still in BETA. FreeNAS 11.1U6 is based on FreeBSD 11.1 which is EOL. So one cannot e.g. install FreeBSD packages in a jail ...

This is not a good situation.

Patrick

 

[Chris Moore]

Hi!

FreeNAS 11.2 is still in BETA. FreeNAS 11.1U6 is based on FreeBSD 11.1 which is EOL. So one cannot e.g. install FreeBSD packages in a jail ...

This is not a good situation.

Patrick

Unfortunately, the development team is likely devoting most of their time to getting 11.2 out of BETA. I think there is already a 'bug' report on this, but you might search the redmine to see if you can find progress updates.

https://redmine.ixsystems.com/projects/freenas

 

[jgreco]

Hi!

FreeNAS 11.2 is still in BETA. FreeNAS 11.1U6 is based on FreeBSD 11.1 which is EOL. So one cannot e.g. install FreeBSD packages in a jail ...

This is not a good situation.

Patrick

What's stopping you? Just curious. Jails are not tightly coupled to the base system, or even the major OS revision of the base system. If nothing else, you can definitely crowbar it. Depending on your specific hangup, someone may be able to identify a workaround.

As an example, you should be able to untar an 11.2-REL tarball in a jail, unpack some packages, and it should work. Stuff that is dependent on the uname output may be a bit confused, so you might not be able to use some of the tools. I know FreeBSD developers had discussed ways to fix that at some point but I can't recall the exact outcome. You can override some of that with the UNAME_x environment variables, which seems to be good enough for many applications.

I do jails the other way around (arguably the "correct" way, hehe) where we don't have those sorts of issues because you're not installing from packages, but rather building things that fit into a custom crafted jail. This works much better but requires a lot more effort and sophistication. :-/

 

[Patrick M. Hausen]

Well, if I'm not mistaken, 11.1 binaries are guaranteed to work on a 11.2 kernel but not the other way round.

Patrick

 

[Jailer]

I doubt it. With the RC so close and FreeNAS 11.2 already based on FreeBSD 11.2 it doesn't seem likely that the effort would be put into maintaining 11.1 much longer.

Well, if I'm not mistaken, 11.1 binaries are guaranteed to work on a 11.2 kernel but not the other way round.

Not necessarily. The binary package for the nvidia drivers is a good example.

 

[kdragon75]

INot necessarily. The binary package for the nvidia drivers is a good example.

The same company that thinks SMBv1 is fine on the Shield? I'm not shocked they would not be forward compatible.

 

[Ericloewe]

FreeNAS 11.1 won't get anything more aside from small bugfixes and security patches.

 

[Patrick M. Hausen]

Not necessarily. The binary package for the nvidia drivers is a good example.

These are kernel modules, not user land binaries that could run in jails.

Thanks, @Ericloewe for clarifying.

Patrick

 

[jgreco]

I doubt it. With the RC so close and FreeNAS 11.2 already based on FreeBSD 11.2 it doesn't seem likely that the effort would be put into maintaining 11.1 much longer.

Not necessarily. The binary package for the nvidia drivers is a good example.

Drivers (kernel-land) and userland are very different things.

You people out there running Plex are running a binary compiled on FreeBSD 9.3R. Deal with it.