Truenas scale cluster pricing

[hastrup]

I don't fully understand how truenas scale cluster is priced

As I understand it right now you can only do truenas scale cluster with TrueCommand and there is a limit with 50 drives

My setup at home

3 x lenovo 1 liter systems with 2 drive each in them

1 x San 24 drives

Does that counts as 6 drives for TrueCommand?

Is my San with 24 drives also cunted in?

Is there a way to not have to use TrueCommand for scale cluster?

What I want to do is have 3 node in a cluster like how proxmox is doing

Is that possible or vil be possible in the future?

I want to try something different then proxmox I have really looking forward to try out truenas scale I like the integrated apps :)

 

[ornias]

Truecommand's "free tier" support 50 non-system disks total.
That includes ALL non-system disks added to TrueCommand, regardless if you use clustering or not.

Does that counts as 6 drives for TrueCommand?

If you add only the 3 lenovo machines it would be 6
If you add the lenovo and san, it would be 24+6=30 drives
(assuming none of those are system disks aka boot-drives)

Is my San with 24 drives also cunted in?

If you add it to Truecommand: yes
Otherwise: No

Is there a way to not have to use TrueCommand for scale cluster?

Yes either using the CLI/API (not documented in a user friendly way, if you need to ask this I doubt your the target audience to try it)
Or
Using Gluster directly

Both are, however, not officially supported methods of doing so!

What I want to do is have 3 node in a cluster like how proxmox is doing
Is that possible or vil be possible in the future?

Proxmox and TrueNAS are using totally different storage backend and on-top of that Proxmox isn't supporting docker at all.
SCALE however is also not going to support k8s clustering at release either.

So it depends on your definition of "like how proxmox is doing", both the features and the way the UI works are all totally different.

I want to try something different then proxmox I have really looking forward to try out truenas scale I like the integrated apps :)

If you want those clustering, thats not planned for initial release.
Just storage clustering at the moment.

 

[hastrup]

Truecommand's "free tier" support 50 non-system disks total.
That includes ALL non-system disks added to TrueCommand, regardless if you use clustering or not.



If you add only the 3 lenovo machines it would be 6
If you add the lenovo and san, it would be 24+6=30 drives
(assuming none of those are system disks aka boot-drives)


If you add it to Truecommand: yes
Otherwise: No


Yes either using the CLI/API (not documented in a user friendly way, if you need to ask this I doubt your the target audience to try it)
Or
Using Gluster directly

Both are, however, not officially supported methods of doing so!


Proxmox and TrueNAS are using totally different storage backend and on-top of that Proxmox isn't supporting docker at all.
SCALE however is also not going to support k8s clustering at release either.

So it depends on your definition of "like how proxmox is doing", both the features and the way the UI works are all totally different.


If you want those clustering, thats not planned for initial release.
Just storage clustering at the moment.

Thank you for clearing it up

in proxmox the way you would cluster is by give a host machine a machine I'd. And now you can see all your systems in one webui Also you could have ha so one vm jumps machines if needed.

Is something similar in the pipeline with scale?

Or is that what TrueCommand is for?

That's why I want to try out truenas scale is the nativ docker integration

 

[morganL]

TrueCommand manages the 3 nodes.... you can use a docker container on a host or on your laptop.
We do it this way so we don't have to worry about a failing node managing itself....life is too short.
For your disk count, the free tier works
The VM reassignment to a different node is in the plan... but not yet available.
TrueNAS SCALE has more complete capability with storage and apps.

 

[hastrup]

TrueCommand manages the 3 nodes.... you can use a docker container on a host or on your laptop.
We do it this way so we don't have to worry about a failing node managing itself....life is too short.
For your disk count, the free tier works
The VM reassignment to a different node is in the plan... but not yet available.
TrueNAS SCALE has more complete capability with storage and apps.

Thx for your response :)

 

[ornias]

That's why I want to try out truenas scale is the nativ docker integration

To be clear:
SCALE does not support native docker, it supports specially adapted Helm charts and uses docker as a backend for those.
Just like discussed 99 times on the forum already: use things like docker-compose or docker run at your own risk, it's not an official feature.

 

[hastrup]

To be clear:
SCALE does not support native docker, it supports specially adapted Helm charts and uses docker as a backend for those.
Just like discussed 99 times on the forum already: use things like docker-compose or docker run at your own risk, it's not an official feature.

Yeah still better then no docker :) aka proxmox

 

[beagle]

Just like discussed 99 times on the forum already: use things like docker-compose or docker run at your own risk, it's not an official feature.

^^^ That should be a pin ;-)