DirkTripleD
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Hi all,
thank you for the very interesting and useful information in this forum!
I built a SuperMicro server for a customer some months ago, intended for a video postproduction system for video editing in full HD with Adobe Premiere Pro.
The system should have the ability to use it for 4K video editing in the future.
It is consisting of this parts:
SuperMicro SuperServer 7049P-TRT
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/4U/7049/SYS-7049P-TRT.cfm
Mentioned backplane here:
SAS / SATA Hard Drive Backplane w/AMI MG9072
Included board: SuperMicro X11DPH-T
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X11DPH-T
Which ist this chassis:
SuperMicro SuperChassis 745BAC-R1K28B2
Mentioned backplane here:
HD Backplane BPN-SAS3-743A 8-port 4U/Tower 3.5-inch SAS3/SAS2/SATA3 12Gbps backplane for SC743/SC745 chassis
I bought some additional 8x 2.5-drive-bays-cages with and without fan (I was not able to decide which one I prefer most) ;) when I bouht the initial server. They are not in use yet.
Just for the records:
I bought
1x INTEL Xeon Scalable 4208 2,10GHZ FC-LGA3647 11M Cache 10.4GT/sec Box CPU
2x 32 GB ECC-RAM DDR4 32GB Samsung M393A4K40CB2-CVF DDR4-2933 regECC DIMM CL21-21-21 Single (bulk)
1x SAMSUNG MZ-V7P1T0BW 970 PRO 1 TB NVMe M.2 for the cache
6x SEAGATE Ironwolf PRO NAS HDD 4TB SATA
The system is working flawlessly.
The customer now wants to expand the system and I am searching for a couple of weeks to find a new rack enclosure.
I found different systems, some with included motherboard and so on. But my hardest problem is to figure out, which backplanes are compatible and recommended for TrueNAS with ZFS.
These ones are available (I could also mention the systems if you want):
In bold I highlighted elements for which I am unsure if they are good or bad!
This system is advised from a SuperMicro reseller, but I think he is not familiar with TrueNAS:
SKU CSE-846XE2C-R1K23B = SuperChassis 846XE2C-R1K23B = SC846XE2C-R1K23B
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bay with SES3 - Mini SAS HD (SFF 8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
He also mentioned this system:
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE1C-R1K23B
This are the results of my own investigation (I of course would like to use actual X11-hardware and have also to check which ones are available):
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay -
24-port 4U SAS 6Gbps direct-attached backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS2/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BA-R920B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA - Mini-i-Pass (SFF 8087) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS 6Gbps direct-attached backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS2/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/Sc846XA-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bay with SES3 - Mini SAS HD (SFF 8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay - Mini SAS HD (SFF8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE1C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE1C-R1K23B
Attention: Low-Profile-Expansion-Slots!?
SuperStorage 6049P-E1CR36H with Super Board X11DPH-T
SAS3 (12Gbps) via Broadcom 3108 AOC; HW RAID; RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, 60
36 Hot-swap 3.5" SAS3/SATA3 drivebays including 4 optional NVMe drives [Great!!!]; 2 hot-swap 2.5" SATA3 drive bays (rear) [Great!!!], 2 M.2 NVMe, Expander based backplane [Great!!!]
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/4U/6049/SSG-6049P-E1CR36H.cfm
SuperStorage 6049P-E1CR36L with Super Board X11DPH-T
SAS3 (12Gbps) via Broadcom 3008 AOC, Broadcom 3008 controller, SATA3 (6Gbps) with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
36 Hot-swap 3.5" SAS3/SATA3 drive bays including 4 optional NVMe drives; 2 hot-swap 2.5" SATA3 drive bays (rear), 2 M.2 NVMe, Expander based backplane [Again: Great!!!]
Maybe I will add a identical second CPU and will double the RAM. I would like to preserve the board but I think it could be in the budget to buy a new system with a preinstalled new board maybe.
Every advice is welcome!
Thank you very much!
thank you for the very interesting and useful information in this forum!
I built a SuperMicro server for a customer some months ago, intended for a video postproduction system for video editing in full HD with Adobe Premiere Pro.
The system should have the ability to use it for 4K video editing in the future.
It is consisting of this parts:
SuperMicro SuperServer 7049P-TRT
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/4U/7049/SYS-7049P-TRT.cfm
Mentioned backplane here:
SAS / SATA Hard Drive Backplane w/AMI MG9072
Included board: SuperMicro X11DPH-T
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X11DPH-T
Which ist this chassis:
SuperMicro SuperChassis 745BAC-R1K28B2
SC745BAC-R1K28B2 | 4U | Chassis | Products | Super Micro Computer, Inc.
745BAC-R1K28B2
www.supermicro.com
Mentioned backplane here:
HD Backplane BPN-SAS3-743A 8-port 4U/Tower 3.5-inch SAS3/SAS2/SATA3 12Gbps backplane for SC743/SC745 chassis
I bought some additional 8x 2.5-drive-bays-cages with and without fan (I was not able to decide which one I prefer most) ;) when I bouht the initial server. They are not in use yet.
Just for the records:
I bought
1x INTEL Xeon Scalable 4208 2,10GHZ FC-LGA3647 11M Cache 10.4GT/sec Box CPU
2x 32 GB ECC-RAM DDR4 32GB Samsung M393A4K40CB2-CVF DDR4-2933 regECC DIMM CL21-21-21 Single (bulk)
1x SAMSUNG MZ-V7P1T0BW 970 PRO 1 TB NVMe M.2 for the cache
6x SEAGATE Ironwolf PRO NAS HDD 4TB SATA
The system is working flawlessly.
The customer now wants to expand the system and I am searching for a couple of weeks to find a new rack enclosure.
I found different systems, some with included motherboard and so on. But my hardest problem is to figure out, which backplanes are compatible and recommended for TrueNAS with ZFS.
These ones are available (I could also mention the systems if you want):
In bold I highlighted elements for which I am unsure if they are good or bad!
This system is advised from a SuperMicro reseller, but I think he is not familiar with TrueNAS:
SKU CSE-846XE2C-R1K23B = SuperChassis 846XE2C-R1K23B = SC846XE2C-R1K23B
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bay with SES3 - Mini SAS HD (SFF 8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
He also mentioned this system:
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE1C-R1K23B
This are the results of my own investigation (I of course would like to use actual X11-hardware and have also to check which ones are available):
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay -
24-port 4U SAS 6Gbps direct-attached backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS2/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BA-R920B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA - Mini-i-Pass (SFF 8087) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS 6Gbps direct-attached backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS2/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/Sc846XA-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bay with SES3 - Mini SAS HD (SFF 8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay - Mini SAS HD (SFF8643) connectivity
24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846XE1C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps dual-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD (secondary expander port only connects to dual-port SAS devices, single-port SATA will not have this redundancy feature)
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE2C-R1K23B
24 x 3.5" hot-swap drive bay
24x 3.5" hot-swap SAS/SATA drive bays supporting SAS3/2 or SATA3 HDDs with 12Gbps throughput
Backplane: 24-port 4U SAS3 12Gbps single-expander backplane, support up to 24x 3.5-inch SAS3/SATA3 HDD/SSD
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846BE1C-R1K23B
Attention: Low-Profile-Expansion-Slots!?
SuperStorage 6049P-E1CR36H with Super Board X11DPH-T
SAS3 (12Gbps) via Broadcom 3108 AOC; HW RAID; RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, 60
36 Hot-swap 3.5" SAS3/SATA3 drivebays including 4 optional NVMe drives [Great!!!]; 2 hot-swap 2.5" SATA3 drive bays (rear) [Great!!!], 2 M.2 NVMe, Expander based backplane [Great!!!]
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/system/4U/6049/SSG-6049P-E1CR36H.cfm
SuperStorage 6049P-E1CR36L with Super Board X11DPH-T
SAS3 (12Gbps) via Broadcom 3008 AOC, Broadcom 3008 controller, SATA3 (6Gbps) with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
36 Hot-swap 3.5" SAS3/SATA3 drive bays including 4 optional NVMe drives; 2 hot-swap 2.5" SATA3 drive bays (rear), 2 M.2 NVMe, Expander based backplane [Again: Great!!!]
Maybe I will add a identical second CPU and will double the RAM. I would like to preserve the board but I think it could be in the budget to buy a new system with a preinstalled new board maybe.
Every advice is welcome!
Thank you very much!