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Matthias

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Hi everybody!

I'm completely new to this, so i'm just going to write what i want to accomplish with the server i want to build.

What i want to do:
- Central storage solution for data
- Be able to share the data (acces via computers)
- Media server to play/stream songs/video's on all network devices such as media players, tv's, etc... (DLNA,xbmc possible?)
- Acces from anywhere (limited acces to 1 drive/partition) (not a priority)
- Backup (data/various)
- Low power consumption is good but not a priority.

With these components:
(Budget as cheap as possible, with a maximum of 1000€, 1400$ to start, will expand in the future)
- Formfactor yet to specify (ATX/micro-ATX)
- Motherboard (preferrebly ASUS Z87, at least 4-6 sata ports)
- CPU (yet to specify, socket LGA1150)
- CPU cooler (stock Intel)
- RAM (EEC memory min 16GB)
- GPU (do i need one, or will the GPGPU of the CPU replace this?)
- HDD's (WD RED drives, yet to specify how many, will expand in the future) (ZFS file structure)
- PSU (depends on powerdraw CPU/GPU/MB, +/- 600W)
- Case (depends on MB form factor, minimum 6x 3.5" bay, GPU length)
- USB thumb for FreeNAS OS (4GB USB2.0/3.0)
- PCI LAN card needed? (depends on onboard LAN of the MB)
- PCI SATA expasion card?

The need of a GPU will be the discising factor if the MB should be ATX or micro-ATX.
I just want to be able to stream video to some of my network devices in HD.

Is it right to state that the arrival of the new 4K, 4K@48Fps and other new video standards will require a vast amount of video processing power, thus need a GPU?

OR go with an ATX MB so that i can add a GPU later?

(keep in mind if i put a GPU, PCI LAN card and a PCI SATA card that i will need 3-4 slots on the MB)

Recommendations, tips, build guides are very welcome!
Thanks in advance you guy's!

Sincerely,

Matthias
 

Yatti420

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Depends what you want etc.. GPU definitely not required.. It's pure waste.. 6 x?TB reds in RaidZ-2? Any consumer grade motherboard is going to waste power.. PCIe expansion for m1015 cards maybe? If you ever need them etc.. There are lots of hardware threads out there..

Edit: I didn't see a UPS selected.. Get one of these..
 

Matthias

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Thanks for the reply. I have a UPS already (1000W) so this isn't a problem. For the HDD's, i'm still not quite sure how many i will put into the server but at least 3. So i think i will put them in the raid 5 equivalent of ZFS.

Power isn't an issue for me. I calculated 100W for MB+CPU (average). The reason i would go for Z87 is that its very power efficient or am i wron?
 

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Yes 100w would be max for most I believe.. I get around 50-60w depending on what I'm doing.. Raidz can be used with 3 drives.. Not recommended.. I would spend more on drives.. The GPU should be onboard.. PSU can almost be cut in half wattage wise. http://www.servethehome.com/raid-calculator/
 

Matthias

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Why isnt it a good solution? What do you recommend than?

So a 300W PSU Should do i guess...

Is the following cpu powerful enough or should i pick an i5 or i7?
Intel® Core™ i3-4330T

Since i dont need a GPU, i will go for a micro-ATX MB. with 1 extra pci slot to add aditional storage in the future...
This means smaller case, but still want one with at least 6x 3,5" bays. Any suggestions?
 

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Sorry, but I don't consider the Z87 to be a good choice for the following reasons:

1. Asus is just entering the server market. For that reason, I don't recommend you buy one of their "pioneering" products and become their beta tester. Supermicro on the other hand has been doing server stuff for years and has a reputation for excellence. Building desktops is NOT the same as building servers. Different considerations have to be taken into account.
2. That Asus board has audio and other hardware you will not be able to use, but there's the risk of it causing problems and the fact that it will consume power 24x7 forever. You cannot remove these risks by simply turning off the hardware in the BIOS.
3. The price for the different Z87s is a bit varied, but is basically the same price as Supermicro boards that offer the same basic hardware. You also will usually get at least 2 Intel NICs, while the Z87s don't necessarily have it.
4. IPMI... not sure which Z87 you are looking at, but most(all) don't appear to have IPMI.

And on a somewhat related not.. be careful what you ask for when you go with a board that has only 1 slot. Next thing you'll know you've been forced to add an Intel NIC or some other hardware because of some limitation you didn't plan ahead for and you can never put that sleek M1015 in there that you were hoping to use.
 

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And yet you STILL pick a Q87... sigh. Good luck with that non-ECC RAM! You're gonna need it.
 

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Both use non-ECC RAM. They are desktop components. If you want a desktop, I'd recommend those. But you aren't building a desktop. It's just about the right tool for the right job.

I'd go with this for the extra PCIe slot. Should cost like $5-10 more than the board you recommended.

http://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C220/X10SLL_-F.cfm
 

Matthias

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Now you're talking! :)

So, now i have this:
MB: http://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C220/X10SLL_-F.cfm
CPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/75461/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1225-v3-8M-Cache-3_20-GHz
or
http://ark.intel.com/products/77770/Intel-Core-i3-4330T-Processor-4M-Cache-3_00-GHz

What is your suggestion, because i don't quite understand the difference. The Xeon is server based, but is this necessary?
There is also a 50W TDP difference between them. So i would lean to the i3, unless the XEON gives a bigger advantage for some reason...

16GB ECC ram (yet to specify)
Case: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-mini
HDD's : 4x 3TB WD RED's in RAIDZ

PSU: +/- 300W supply. I'm used to work with Corsair PSU's and i'm very happy with them. My gaming rig is OC'ed and never had issues with voltagedrops, ed... What are your thoughts on this one: http://www.corsair.com/en/rm-series-rm450-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply
I know it's overkill, but want a high efficient PSU. And it's modular. I have yet to check the dimensions though (for the case).
 
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