BUILD My 8 disk build and PSU options

[J8K]

Hi all,
It is time for me to build a new freenas box. My current setup is a HP N54L with 16gb ram and 5 wd reds in a raidz2. I have been using it now for 4-5 years, no issues so far. :)

My new build: (already ordered)
Cpu: i3 6100
MB: Supermicro x11ssh-ln4f
Ram: 2x16gb crucial ecc udimm
Hdd: 3 more wd reds
Boot: mirrored usb sticks


My plan is to build a 8 disk raidz2.

Do you see anything wrong with this setup?

And to the final question...PSU?
I have read the guide for the sizing of power supplies.
I really like the EVGA G2 power supplies, have a 1000w already in another pc that Im thinking of using. (1 month old)
Is it a big overkill to use the 1000w in my build? Should i aim for something smaller?

I have a plan to add a m1015 and move my virtualized nfs storage to the freenas box sometime in the future, but not right now. It is 6 disks configured as striped mirrors. Would the 1000w be to small here? (8+6 disks)

I have three options as I see it:
1. Use my 1000w
2. Buy a ~650w psu (evga or seasonic) (and upgrade when/if needed)
3. Buy something 1000w++ to meet future expansion requirements.

Hopefully you guys can help me to decide. :)

 

[Ericloewe]

Is it a big overkill to use the 1000w in my build? Should i aim for something smaller?

It can't really hurt and it'd be wasteful to get a smaller one just because.

Would the 1000w be to small here? (8+6 disks)

No, it would still have plenty of headroom.

 

[jgreco]

Hi all,
It is time for me to build a new freenas box. My current setup is a HP N54L with 16gb ram and 5 wd reds in a raidz2. I have been using it now for 4-5 years, no issues so far. :)

My new build: (already ordered)
Cpu: i3 6100
MB: Supermicro x11ssh-ln4f
Ram: 2x16gb crucial ecc udimm
Hdd: 3 more wd reds
Boot: mirrored usb sticks


My plan is to build a 8 disk raidz2.

Do you see anything wrong with this setup?

And to the final question...PSU?
I have read the guide for the sizing of power supplies.
I really like the EVGA G2 power supplies, have a 1000w already in another pc that Im thinking of using. (1 month old)
Is it a big overkill to use the 1000w in my build? Should i aim for something smaller?

I have a plan to add a m1015 and move my virtualized nfs storage to the freenas box sometime in the future, but not right now. It is 6 disks configured as striped mirrors. Would the 1000w be to small here? (8+6 disks)

I have three options as I see it:
1. Use my 1000w
2. Buy a ~650w psu (evga or seasonic) (and upgrade when/if needed)
3. Buy something 1000w++ to meet future expansion requirements.

Hopefully you guys can help me to decide. :)

Generally speaking, 1's a reasonable choice, but if you do run into mysterious problems, try a different PSU. Some PSU's will be twitchy if they're not seeing sufficient load.

The 1000W PSU ought to be fine for 14 disks too.

 

[Ericloewe]

Some PSU's will be twitchy if they're not seeing sufficient load.

I don't think that's been a problem ever since group-regulated designs fell out of fashion.
When PSU manufacturers stayed advertising "Haswell compatibility" (due to the new low power states), everyone just went "well duh, your PSU is a large switch mode regulated +12V source with a bunch of DC to DC converters shoved in for the minor rails".

if you do run into mysterious problems, try a different PSU.

Always good advice. PSUs are often overlooked, especially during troubleshooting.

 

[CraigD]

I would look at the curve for you PSU most tank in efficiency below 20% load so if you are above 20% load fine

https://hardforum.com/proxy/CKbSwA7...5F2KkrP7GWwMmsP0m4AxR1Oac+xCUjFvcv1/image.png

 

[jgreco]

It isn't clear that this is actually representative of actual loading, especially below 20%. The 80+ certification process could have been more useful if it gathered a few more data points, including down by 10%, and a few other intermediate steps.

 

[Ericloewe]

It isn't clear that this is actually representative of actual loading, especially below 20%. The 80+ certification process could have been more useful if it gathered a few more data points, including down by 10%, and a few other intermediate steps.

80+ Titanium introduces requirements at 10%, and they're on the strict side, too.

Too bad older certifications don't...

 

[jgreco]

80+ Titanium introduces requirements at 10%, and they're on the strict side, too.

Too bad older certifications don't...

That might mean more to me if there were reasonable units available. I know Seasonic's been talking about their new "prime" stuff, but it appears to be more smoke than power supply.

 

[Ericloewe]

That might mean more to me if there were reasonable units available. I know Seasonic's been talking about their new "prime" stuff, but it appears to be more smoke than power supply.

Apparently, they have a shipping container on their way to Europe at the moment. No word on US release dates...

Other than that, nearly every Titanium unit is a monster on the order of a kilowatt.

 

[jgreco]

Apparently, they have a shipping container on their way to Europe at the moment. No word on US release dates...

Know anything about being a modern day pirate?

 

[Ericloewe]

Know anything about being a modern day pirate? :)

The logistics are horrible.

Besides container ships being a hard target to hit ( They are large, reasonably quick and don't really feel threatened by a small boat full of guys with AKs), you also have to get rid of all the stuff you don't want. For every container full of power supplies, there are about 2 containers full of sex toys and other crap you don't want; plus all the other containers with valuable goods. What do you do with those?

 

[jgreco]

What do you do with those?

Throw them overboard, I would imagine. We'll have to remember to bring a mecha suit, those damn things are heavy.

 

[Ericloewe]

Throw them overboard, I would imagine. We'll have to remember to bring a mecha suit, those damn things are heavy.

You can't do that at sea, the ship needs ballast.

 

[jgreco]

You can't do that at sea, the ship needs ballast.

Why would I care about the ship? It's not like I'm proposing to take it on a cruise! Just need to find the container with the titanium supplies, the rest is garbage.

 

[danb35]

You can't do that at sea, the ship needs ballast.

You seem to have thought this through very carefully. I think we should be concerned by that...

 

[jgreco]

You seem to have thought this through very carefully. I think we should be concerned by that...

Only if you're on the waiting list. Whaddathink happened to all the GTX 1080's?

 

[danb35]

If I were concerned about energy efficiency, would I be running the rig I'm running?

 

[jgreco]

If I were concerned about energy efficiency, would I be running the rig I'm running?

How the hell should I know!

"My 37 watt NAS board beats your system for energy efficiency." ( https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/supermicro-xeon-d-x10sdv-7tp4f.44237/ )

 

[Ericloewe]

You seem to have thought this through very carefully. I think we should be concerned by that...

Not unless you're involved in the shipping business.

 

[J8K]

Generally speaking, 1's a reasonable choice, but if you do run into mysterious problems, try a different PSU. Some PSU's will be twitchy if they're not seeing sufficient load.

The 1000W PSU ought to be fine for 14 disks too.

This sounds good to me. I will start with the 1000w and see how it works out.
Thanks for the help.


ARRRR.....go pirates!