I226-V // Not yet?

[throttlenerd]

Hey guys, did the search, not only here -- seems like there's no support for Intel's I226-V NICs in FreeBSD 13, which latest version of TrueNAS Core is based on. It is recognized by TN but behavior is kinda wonky. Bought two cheap ass Aliexpress I226-V cards, the one I put in my pfSense 2.7.2 box (FreeBSD 14) seems to work just fine. And yes, it's not a respected approach to put this kind of noname ("Fenvi") NICs into TN but I don't run any enterprise, my TN box is just a backup server which I want to be faster than 1G LAN to dump huge amounts of footage when I'm back from the shoot.

So maybe there's a "DIY FreeBSD 13 driver" for I226-V which I couldn't find? ))

Thank you guys!

 

[winnielinnie]

I'm using the Intel I225-V card in my TrueNAS Core 13.0-U6.1 server, which has been working without issues. It is 2.5-GbE as well. Is that an option for you?

 

[throttlenerd]

I'm using the Intel I225-V card in my TrueNAS Core 13.0-U6.1 server, which has been working without issues. It is 2.5-GbE as well. Is that an option for you?

I guess for now the option is to buy I225-V, right? )

 

[winnielinnie]

It "just works" for me, and I'm quite happy with it. I use it for a single client as a dedicated, direct CAT6a connection, bypassing any switch or router.

 

[throttlenerd]

It "just works" for me, and I'm quite happy with it. I use it for a single client as a dedicated, direct CAT6a connection, bypassing any switch or router.

Dang! Just connected my macbook to TN directly (with a 1GbE USB-LAN adapter though) -- no wonky behavior, Blackmagic Disk Speed Test is stable at 110 MB/s! Will have to investigate the weak link further. 2.5G switch and USB-LAN adapter are soon to follow, not bought them yet.

Thank you man!

 

[throttlenerd]

Whew! Connected pfSense (same I226-V) to a Mercusys 1G switch, TN and macbook to that switch -- all perfect! These cheapo Ali cards are working! Yes I can't test 2.5G speeds now, but 1G is stable. The problem, I guess, is a TP-Link switch on another physical subnet (with a proper solid HP Intel card) which for some reason "dropped frames" from Synology's CIFS connection and my MBPro also. Good news! ))

 

[Gelax]

Hi, does anyone have any updates on the correct functioning of Intel i226 network cards with TrueNAS CORE 13.0-U6.1?

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I was considering buying this Asus Pro WS W680M-ACE SE motherboard which also supports ECC Unbuffered memories and has 2 integrated i226 network cards

 

[throttlenerd]

Hi, does anyone have any updates on the correct functioning of Intel i226 network cards with TrueNAS CORE 13.0-U6.1?

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I was considering buying this Asus Pro WS W680M-ACE SE motherboard which also supports ECC Unbuffered memories and has 2 integrated i226 network cards

My TrueNAS Core (lastest version, I think) works flawlessly with cheap i226-V from AliExpress, constant 240-250 MB/s

 

[Etorix]

I was considering buying this Asus Pro WS W680M-ACE SE motherboard which also supports ECC Unbuffered memories and has 2 integrated i226 network cards

Not a good choice for CORE, which has no scheduler support for Alder Lake.
You and your wallet would probably be better with an older motherboard, new old stock or second-hand.

 

[Gelax]

My TrueNAS Core (lastest version, I think) works flawlessly with cheap i226-V from AliExpress, constant 240-250 MB/s

Ok thanks.
In your system you use ECC or non-ECC memories?

 

[Gelax]

Not a good choice for CORE, which has no scheduler support for Alder Lake.
You and your wallet would probably be better with an older motherboard, new old stock or second-hand.

Thank you, I didn't know about this problem.

Do you know if the problem also exists with Intel 12th CPUs?
For example with the Intel I7 12700 CPU?

I would like to use ECC memories.

I read that 12th generation Alder Lake Intel Core processors support ECC memory, provided they are installed on a motherboard based on the W680 chipset dedicated to entry-level workstations.

Before the 12th generation CPU ECC memories are not supported.

Otherwise, to use ECC memories you must use Xeon CPUs

 

[Gelax]

Not a good choice for CORE, which has no scheduler support for Alder Lake.
You and your wallet would probably be better with an older motherboard, new old stock or second-hand.

Is this motherboard also not good? with Intel I7 12700 CPU?

 

[Gelax]

Not a good choice for CORE, which has no scheduler support for Alder Lake.
You and your wallet would probably be better with an older motherboard, new old stock or second-hand.

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/products.asp#Server

For TrueNAS CORE latest version: From the Asrock website which motherboard and CPU do you recommend? I need micro-atx format with ECC ram support. A card to buy new that is currently on sale.

 

[Etorix]

Do you know if the problem also exists with Intel 12th CPUs?

Yes, from 12th gen. onwards.

I read that 12th generation Alder Lake Intel Core processors support ECC memory, provided they are installed on a motherboard based on the W680 chipset dedicated to entry-level workstations.

Before the 12th generation CPU ECC memories are not supported.

It's a bit more complicated… In the last generations (LGA1700), Core i3 do NOT support ECC, but i5/i7/i9 generally do (check the details in ARK).
With 10/11th gen. (LGA1200), you do need Xeon W-1200/1300 (W480/W580 chipset) or Xeon E-2300 (C252/C256) for ECC; no Core CPU.
But Skylake to Coffee Lake Core i3 (LGA1151 and LGA1151-2) do support ECC with C232/C236 or C242/C246 chipsets.

So my recommendation would be a C246 board (Supermicro X11SCH, AsRockRack E3C246D4U)… if you can find one for a reasonable price. Add an inexpensive Core i3-9100 for up to 64 GB RAM, or a (second-hand) Xeon E-2100/2200 for up to 128 GB.

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As a higher power power alternative, you might consider a X11SRM board with a second-hand Xeon W-2100 (caution: need v.2 board or VRM upgrade to use 165 W W-2200 parts) and RDIMM (this is the best part if you need lots of memory).

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[Etorix]

Is this motherboard also not good? with Intel I7 12700 CPU?

If you can find it at retail (a major pain for industrial motherboards, it is simply not envisioned that private customers might hear about these, and much less want one of these ), it should be good… for use with SCALE. For CORE, you'd have to disable E-cores (a pity), or accept that scheduling may be erratic. Parts without E-cores are those which are most likely to lack ECC support.

For use with CORE, stay with previous generations:

• C256 + Xeon E-2300 (X12STH, E3C256);
• C246 + Core i3-8100/9100, Xeon E-2100/2200 (X11SCH, E3C246);
• C236 + Core i3-6100/7100, Xeon E3-v5/v6.

C256 is available at retail but expensive (though likely no more than your initial W680 idea).
C246 is getting hard to find, but Coffee Lake Core i3 are cheap and plentiful, and Xeon E are hitting second hand.
C236 is getting quite old, and matching CPUs have less cores than their successors, so this is less attractive.

If Intel is not a hard requirement, a MC12-LE0 with a suitable AM4 Ryzen CPU could be a wallet-friendly option in micro-ATX size.

 

[Gelax]

Se riesci a trovarlo al dettaglio (un grosso problema per le schede madri industriali , semplicemente non è previsto che i clienti privati possano sentirne parlare, e tanto meno desiderarne una ), dovrebbe essere buono... per l'uso con SCALE. Per CORE, dovresti disabilitare gli E-core (un peccato) o accettare che la pianificazione possa essere irregolare. Le parti senza E-core sono quelle che con maggiore probabilità non dispongono del supporto ECC.

Per l'utilizzo con CORE, rimanere con le generazioni precedenti:

• C256 + Xeon E-2300 (X12STH, E3C256);
• C246 + Core i3-8100/9100, Xeon E-2100/2200 (X11SCH, E3C246);
• C236 + Core i3-6100/7100, Xeon E3-v5/v6.

C256 è disponibile al dettaglio ma costoso (anche se probabilmente non più della tua idea Intila W680).
Il C246 sta diventando difficile da trovare, ma i Coffee Lake Core i3 sono economici e abbondanti e gli Xeon E stanno arrivando di seconda mano.
Il C236 sta diventando piuttosto vecchio e le CPU corrispondenti hanno meno core rispetto ai loro successori, quindi questo è meno attraente.

Se Intel non è un requisito difficile, un MC12-LE0 con una CPU Ryzen AM4 adatta potrebbe essere un'opzione conveniente in dimensioni micro-ATX.

I can say that I recently purchased, in Italy, the Asrock Industrial motherboard model IMB-X1314 with Intel 13700 CPU and 32Gb ECC Unbuffered RAM to create a Pfsense v2.7.2 Firewall which is based on the Free BSD V14 operating system.
The motherboard has 3 integrated Intel I225 LM network cards.

At the moment it works well

 

[Gelax]

If you can find it at retail (a major pain for industrial motherboards, it is simply not envisioned that private customers might hear about these, and much less want one of these ), it should be good… for use with SCALE. For CORE, you'd have to disable E-cores (a pity), or accept that scheduling may be erratic. Parts without E-cores are those which are most likely to lack ECC support.

For use with CORE, stay with previous generations:

• C256 + Xeon E-2300 (X12STH, E3C256);
• C246 + Core i3-8100/9100, Xeon E-2100/2200 (X11SCH, E3C246);
• C236 + Core i3-6100/7100, Xeon E3-v5/v6.

C256 is available at retail but expensive (though likely no more than your initial W680 idea).
C246 is getting hard to find, but Coffee Lake Core i3 are cheap and plentiful, and Xeon E are hitting second hand.
C236 is getting quite old, and matching CPUs have less cores than their successors, so this is less attractive.

If Intel is not a hard requirement, a MC12-LE0 with a suitable AM4 Ryzen CPU could be a wallet-friendly option in micro-ATX size.

TrueNAS CORE 13.3 is Coming Soon​

The release candidate for the next version of TrueNAS CORE (13.3) is planned for May, followed by its formal release in June 2024. TrueNAS CORE 13.3 will include the following updates:

• FreeBSD 13.3
• OpenZFS 2.2.3
• Samba v4.19
• Updates to SMART, Network UPS Tools (NUT), and other services
• Various security and bug fixes

Hi!, do you think there will be the same problem with Intel i7 13th,14th and chipset W680 with this new version of True NAS core based on FreeBSD 13.3?

 

[throttlenerd]

Ok thanks.
In your system you use ECC or non-ECC memories?

Oh just saw your question. No, my setup is very basic on old components, non-ECC memory

 

[Etorix]

Hi!, do you think there will be the same problem with Intel i7 13th,14th and chipset W680 with this new version of True NAS core based on FreeBSD 13.3?

Scheduler support for hybrid architecture is appareltly not even in the card for 14.

But, seriously, W680 is over-expensive and over-powered for a plain storage NAS: Get something older and cheaper.
Or, if you do have requirements for high compute power on you NAS, look into Xeon Scalable or EPYC.

 

[Gelax]

Scheduler support for hybrid architecture is appareltly not even in the card for 14.

But, seriously, W680 is over-expensive and over-powered for a plain storage NAS: Get something older and cheaper.
Or, if you do have requirements for high compute power on you NAS, look into Xeon Scalable or EPYC.

Hi, just to clarify:
I have a physical machine running the pfsense 2.7.2 firewall based on the Free BSD 14 operating system and everything works fine for me without problems. The machine is on 24 hours a day.

The hardware configuration is as follows:

Asrock Industrial motherboard model IMB-X1314 with Intel 13700 CPU and 32Gb ECC Unbuffered RAM

Shouldn't there also be the problem you were talking about in managing support for Alder Lake and Raptor Lake?

Or does Free BSD 14 handle them?