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Help Me Build My First NAS
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The (8) 3.5" HGST I run are virtually silent; the (3) 2.5" HP drives are actually louder. The better the drive the less the vibration.
(If you're new to this, you may be able to run only 1 consumer hard drive in a system--seriously. The vibrations from multiple drives can cause harmonic oscillation and destroy the bearings prematurely. Two drives is usually safe as there's enough mass in a metal chassis to damp the vibrations, however more than that depends on the drive rating. WD Red, designed for NAS usage: support for up to 8 bays. (also note these are SMR drives, so not for use with ZFS) I'm pretty sure WD Gold has no such limitation, HGST is unlimited.
HGST is helium filled so runs quieter and uses less power, they're high-end server drives. They're also SAS, not SATA, so be aware they will not work on SATA ports, though SATA works on SAS ports.)
True, but maybe worth it vs. buying a larger server case. Then again, maybe a server case is the better option?
All great choices. You could save some money with a lesser HBA card, the hardware guide suggests that.
I've had good luck with: CableCreation SATA III Cable, [5-Pack] 18-inch SATA
I wouldn't over-bend them....
50pcs /100pcs Releasable Cable Ties --they come in different lengths, 15cm works inside cases well.
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If you want your drives to stay cool (30-35 C) these cases will not allow for a quiet setup. I have 8 drives in an R6 and had to mount 2 high static pressure fans (I use Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM) and they are loud.
The problem with the case is that the HDDs need to be mounted on sleds. Those sleds cover the bottom and sides of the HDD and by that inhibit heat dissipation. Between two drives there is a gap of not more than 2 mm. All in all this means that silent cooling is not possible if drives are mounted next to each other. If you use only every other HDD slot, that would of course be different. But with 12 drives I can't imagine this to be an option here.
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A Noctua NH-U12S DX-3647 will do (ore even a U9). Cooling the CPU is the least of your issues compared with drive noise (unavoidable) and case fans to cool the drives.
Even if helium-filed drives are quieter than air-filled models, they are not strictly silent and the noise does add up, even in the absence of aggravating vibration noise. Fractal Design drive trays are expensive (extras will quickly cost as much as the case!), use lots of screws, are fiddly to put in place, do not help with cooling, and wiring drives for power and data is not fun. I've found the Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro to be much easier to work with than a Define 7 on all of the above counts. Tower cases from Antec or beQuiet may be worth a look as well. But none of these will be "quiet" with 10+ helium-filled spinners: The buzz and humm will NOT let you ignore when the NAS is powered on.
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@Etorix : Great point on the sled cost, and I believe the sled material is plastic (an insulator).
Doesn't the Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro have these slots:
(1) 5.25"
(8) 3.5"
(2) 2.5"
If so in this particular application that's not ideal either, though it's a question as I have no experience with the cases.
Doesn't the Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro have these slots:
(1) 5.25"
(8) 3.5"
(2) 2.5"
If so in this particular application that's not ideal either, though it's a question as I have no experience with the cases.
Since I want 12 hard drives, Would the Define 7 solve this problem? Its a bigger case with sound proofing.
Also curious how much I will paying for electricity with this system? I am going to use Seasonic PRIME GX-650W Gold.
The Seasonic PRIME GX-650W power supply unit (PSU) is available in three different configurations: gold full modular, gold semi-modular, and platinum full modular. Which configuration do you recommend?
The Seasonic PRIME GX-650W power supply unit (PSU) is available in three different configurations: gold full modular, gold semi-modular, and platinum full modular. Which configuration do you recommend?
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It is metal. But on the PCB side of the drive, with an air gap, it doesn't help.
The Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro would indeed not have enough trays for 10-12 drives. But I have this case, and found the experience of filling it with drives much, much smoother than filling a Define 7. My point is that the Define series is not the best choice for storage among similar ATX towers. (With the further point that no tower case will be quiet once filled with spinners.)
Undersized for your number of drives.
Proper Power Supply Sizing Guidance
I've seen about 1,000 threads like this one where people decide that they can power a dozen hard drives off a 360 watt supply. DO NOT DO THIS. I've seen another 1,000 threads where people decide to buy the cheapest power supply that they can...
www.truenas.com
what case would you recommend for me?
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I finally got my Fractal Design Define XL case. I am looking for some help with cabling.
I will be installing 12 hard drives. Any idea where I can find the hard drive cables?
Thank you.
I will be installing 12 hard drives. Any idea where I can find the hard drive cables?
Thank you.
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Boy, I don't even want to think about the amount of man-hours that would have gone into getting all those cables ready for the shoot, were it not a render.
The nice thing about computer graphics is that they're disconnected from reality and its ugly bits like elasticity in the cables, weight of the cables or the fact that SATA cables do not magically merge together into a single cable, making a neat wiring loom sort of thing.
The nice thing about computer graphics is that they're disconnected from reality and its ugly bits like elasticity in the cables, weight of the cables or the fact that SATA cables do not magically merge together into a single cable, making a neat wiring loom sort of thing.
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It depends on what your controller has. I have a SAS controllers capable of running SATA drives with these cables:
HOWEVER, I also have:
SFF-8643 to (4) 29Pin SFF-8482 SATA (two different styles of them)
SFF-8087 to (4) 29pin+15Pin SFF-8482 SATA
(it depends on the HBA connector and drive on the other end)
without the power dongles (to save space in the case)
Though you might need these if you're running off the mainboard:
You'll probably also need some sort of power splitter like:
I'll mention this again for completeness:
50pcs /100pcs Releasable Cable Ties --they come in different lengths, 15cm works inside cases well.
Fire it up without the drives in and see how loud it is, you may want to spend a bunch of money on fans (unfortunately).
Very good question. I have the X11SPL-F that supports up to 10 SATA hard drives, which is the maximum number of drives that can be connected directly to the motherboard. But I also have HBACard (LSI 9400-16i). Should I plug in all my hard drives into the HBA Card or connect 10 drives to the mother board and the rest on HBA card? What would be the best setup?
I already had the HBA card from another system. So it would be best to plug all the hard drive into the HBA ?
One potential advantage of connecting some drives directly to the motherboard is that they may have faster access times and lower latency compared to drives connected through an HBA card.? is this true?
THANKS!
