BUILD build validation.

[2Fast2BCn]

I've been looking on this forum to select components. I'm just trying to validate that the selected components are complete and make sense (or possible optimizations).

• Intel Xeon E3-1245V5
• Crucial - DDR4 - 32 GB : 2 x 16 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2400 MHz / PC4-19200 - CL17 - 1.2 V - ECC
  
• Samsung 850 EVO MZ-N5E120BW - 120 GB - intern - M.2 2280
  
• Supermicro SC833T-653B
• Supermicro X11SSH-TF

I already own:

• 8 x HGST Deskstar NAS 5Tb

With Regards,
Kobe.

 

[nojohnny101]

Welcome to FreeNAS. We are going to need a bit more information in order to help you out:

1) How many users are going to be accessing this box at any given time?
2) What is going to be the primary use of this box?
3) Do you plan on running a bunch of jails? VMs?

 

[danb35]

...and other than the questions @nojohnny101 raises, the xxx5 CPU incorporates a GPU which will do nothing for you on a FreeNAS box. Unless it's the same price as a 1240 (and assuming a 1240 is warranted at all), I'd go for the 1240/1241.

 

[MisterIce]

Hey

Welcome to the forums.

I'm not an expert on the memory, but I can say that the M.2 you've chosen won't work.

This is was it says on SuperMicro page:
M.2 Form Factor: 2260

So the the 2280 form factor won't work. Also that M.2 SSD is a SATA SSD and that motherboard only supports PCI-E Gen 3.0 M.2 SSD.

Trust me, I made the same mistake with the SATA/PCI-E mix-up lol

 

[Spearfoot]

Welcome to the madhouse! :)

You don't really need a CPU with built-in graphics for FreeNAS: these are the models ending in a '5'. Consider getting an E3-1240 v5 instead. Also, depending on your intended usage, you might be just as happy with a 1220 or 1230, i.e., a model with a slower clock speed.

http://ark.intel.com/products/series/88047/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1200-v5-Product-Family#@Server

 

[2Fast2BCn]

Thanks for the warm welcome.
This is already interesting!
Yes, seems like that M.2 won't work.
Amount of users well not much. I just need the storage capacity and I rather pay 30% more then to buy a QNAP or Synology.
Primary use is a bunch of VMs, backups and a backend for media streaming
I think I'll be starting with jails once I'm more experienced with FreeNAS

Price difference between E3-1240 v5 and E3-1245 is very small.
I might however pick the E3-1220v5 that is a good suggestion.

 

[2Fast2BCn]

New draft based on feedback so far:

• Intel Xeon E3-1220v5
  
• Crucial - DDR4 - 32 GB : 2 x 16 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2400 MHz / PC4-19200 - CL17 - 1.2 V - ECC
  
• Transcend MTS600 - 64 GB - intern - M.2 2260 - SATA 6Gb/s
  
• Supermicro SC833T-653B
• Supermicro X11SSH-TF

I already own:

• 8 x HGST Deskstar NAS 5Tb

 

[CookiesLikeWhoa]

Are you planning to use the m.2 for the boot drive? If so it's likely way overkill. A USB drive is more than adequate, and if you're worried about a USB drive getting burned out, then a cheap 32GB SSD is all you need.

What PSU and case are you looking to use?

 

[2Fast2BCn]

Are you planning to use the m.2 for the boot drive? If so it's likely way overkill. A USB drive is more than adequate, and if you're worried about a USB drive getting burned out, then a cheap 32GB SSD is all you need.

What PSU and case are you looking to use?

The Transcend MTS600 is already cheap
I picked the Supermicro SC833T-653B because it can hold 8 swappeable HD's and was indicated on supermicron's website as compatible but I'm open to suggestions (know that I live in belgium so I want to buy my parts in the EU)

 

[CookiesLikeWhoa]

Sounds good. Case seems good enough. Not a whole lot of room for growth but it will get the job done.

 

[Spearfoot]

I picked the Supermicro SC833T-653B because it can hold 8 swappeable HD's and was indicated on supermicron's website as compatible but I'm open to suggestions (know that I live in belgium so I want to buy my parts in the EU)

Rackmount server cases like this one tend to be very loud... You might consider a tower case such as the Fractal Design Define R2, R4, or R5 models, all of which support 8 HDDs and are very quiet.

 

[Stux]

I assume 8 Sata ports on mobo. And 8 HDs.

M2 SATA drive might take one of those Sata ports.

Either use a PCIe M2 drive. Hard to find one that fits in the SM without getting funny with the double sided tape.

Or go with dual USB Boot mirrors.

 

[Stux]

Rackmount server cases like this one tend to be very loud... You might consider a tower case such as the Fractal Design Define R2, R4, or R5 models, all of which support 8 HDDs and are very quiet.

Fractal design node 804 is also a good option. Not hot swap, but one of the only micro ATX specific 8 bay cases in existence.

 

[2Fast2BCn]

Fractal design node 804 is also a good option. Not hot swap, but one of the only micro ATX specific 8 bay cases in existence.

Yes, mobo has 8 SATA3 ports and M.2 Form Factor: 2260

I have no problem with noise (I have a loud server rack in the basement). It is however a lot cheaper. It also made me realize I already have a power supply (Corsair RM750x) I can reuse from unused hardware.
New draft based on feedback so far:

• Intel Xeon E3-1220v5
  
• Crucial - DDR4 - 32 GB : 2 x 16 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2400 MHz / PC4-19200 - CL17 - 1.2 V - ECC
  
• Transcend MTS600 - 64 GB - intern - M.2 2260 - SATA 6Gb/s
  
• Fractal Design Node 804
  
• Supermicro X11SSH-TF

I already own:

• Corsair RM750x
  
• 8 x HGST Deskstar NAS 5Tb

The price associated with this hardware would now be equal to an 8 bay QNAP \o/

 

[Stux]

Yes, mobo has 8 SATA3 ports and M.2 Form Factor: 2260

...

• Transcend MTS600 - 64 GB - intern - M.2 2260 - SATA 6Gb/s

• 8 x HGST Deskstar NAS 5Tb

Being as that's 9 SATA devices... I'm not 100% certain you can use M.2 SATA with all 8 SATA ports. You would want to verify this in the manual.

M.2 devices can be PCIe, or SATA. And sometimes motherboards will disable one of the SATA ports if you have an M.2 SATA device installed. I don't know if this is the case, but I also can't imagine SM putting a separate 9th SATA controller on the board *just* for incase someone uses an M.2 SATA device.

 

[2Fast2BCn]

Being as that's 9 SATA devices... I'm not 100% certain you can use M.2 SATA with all 8 SATA ports. You would want to verify this in the manual.

M.2 devices can be PCIe, or SATA. And sometimes motherboards will disable one of the SATA ports if you have an M.2 SATA device installed. I don't know if this is the case, but I also can't imagine SM putting a separate 9th SATA controller on the board *just* for incase someone uses an M.2 SATA device.

Good observation but in this case I think I'm ok.
From the manual:

M.2 Slot
M.2 is formerly known as Next Generation Form Factor (NGFF). The M.2 slot at J24 is
designed for internal mounting devices. The X11SSH-CTF/TF motherboard deploys an M key
only dedicated for SSD devices with the ulitmate performance capability in a PCI Express
3.0 X4 interface for native PCI-E SSD support.

 

[Stux]

Good observation but in this case I think I'm ok.
From the manual:

M.2 Slot
M.2 is formerly known as Next Generation Form Factor (NGFF). The M.2 slot at J24 is
designed for internal mounting devices. The X11SSH-CTF/TF motherboard deploys an M key
only dedicated for SSD devices with the ulitmate performance capability in a PCI Express
3.0 X4 interface for native PCI-E SSD support.

I read that as it not supporting SATA.

https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/m-2-ssds-and-x11ssh-f-motherboard.41592/#post-266583

 

[Ericloewe]

X11SSH-F/-LN4F doesn't support SATA M.2 drives.

 

[Spearfoot]

@2Fast2BCn, the motherboard's manual and web page both specify that the M.2 SSD slot has a PCIe x4 interface, not SATA. So you definitely do not want to buy an M.2 SSD with an SATA interface.

The '2260' designates the width (22mm) and length (60mm). It may be okay to use devices with a shorter length (16,26,30,38,42mm), but check with Supermicro tech support to make sure...

 

[2Fast2BCn]

I'm very pleased I'm researching this a lot before I bought anything ;-).
I totally forgot that the port I was planning to use is the 10Gb uplink SFP+ port of the juniper EX42000.
There aren't many options with SFP+ ports unfortunately :-/
So I've been researching all over again and this is the new proposal:

• Supermicro X10DRD-iNTP
  
• Intel Xeon E5-2603v4
  
• 2 x Samsung DDR4 16GB DIMM SDRAM
  
• Supermicro CBL-0349L (SFP+ cable to connect to one of the Juniper EX4200 uplink SPF+ ports)
  
• Antec Nineteen Hundred Tower
  
• Noctua CPU cooler
  
• SanDisk ReadyCache 32GB SSD

I already own:

• Corsair RM750x
  
• 8 x HGST Deskstar NAS 5Tb

With Regards,
Kobe.