What is with the new UI ?!!

[Magnus33]

Now as we all understand this is a work in progress but progress in this case is from not great to omg bad.

Back in April the beta for the new UI made it to the public it wasn't great but it looked like it was done by a professional who knew what he was doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hCaEMkrCW8

Colors are now so loud that the writing in many cases is unreadable.

There a giant banner across the top telling you where you are at and the concept of efficient use of space seems to be totally lost here.

You have pie graphics in the middle of white blocks with five inches of empty white space on either side?!!

Writing inside of buttons is way too large is often off center.

There are so many issues with it that it now looks like it being done by a 10 year old failing computer class.

I am beginning to think this is actually being done on purpose to make the beta look great or on purpose so it can be said to be a failure and they can go back to the classic one.

The idea of a work in progress is suppose to be fixing bugs and refining the look/usability .
This often involves minor setbacks as bugs happen but by and large progress goes increasingly forward.

We are in Aug now with the UI looking not better or as good as the beta but something from the early days of the internet.

The beta certainly look so much better compared this this now though ;)

Does anyone at this point think that this a improvement or that any attention is being paid to user input?

 

[Jailer]

I think you've made it abundantly clear that your pissed at iX for axing Corral. Your multiple posts bashing the new direction FreeNAS is going have more than gotten that point across. Instead of just complaining offer suggestions and bug tickets with the fixes you'd like to see.

Otherwise if you are so displeased with FreeNAS why don't you just switch to some other product and stop trolling the forum with posts bashing iX and their work.

 

[Magnus33]

I think you've made it abundantly clear that your pissed at iX for axing Corral. Your multiple posts bashing the new direction FreeNAS is going have more than gotten that point across. Instead of just complaining offer suggestions and bug tickets with the fixes you'd like to see.

Otherwise if you are so displeased with FreeNAS why don't you just switch to some other product and stop trolling the forum with posts bashing iX and their work.

Seriously?

I never made a single post saying corral shouldn't have been axed and i understand why they chose to do so.

My issues along with others is they tossed out every good idea along with the bad .
All common sense says you take what works and develop on it to make things better in the future and very little of that has happened here.

But that aside your actually going to sit there and defend the state of the new UI?!!

Have you looked at it lately?

Are you going to try and convince people this is a improvement over even the beta?

As for making suggestions i have along with others but guess what they all been totally ignored or deleted.
It seems when it comes to the new Ui no one is listening or doesn't care.

To be pissed at something requires a emotional involvement and frankly there none here.

What i am is flabbergasted and frankly shocked like many others in the industry just as to what ix is now doing.
From both a business and common sense view much of what they are doing now is frankly making no sense.

The fact that so many of us actually check in to see what they done now because it entertaining isn't a good thing.

Before even when people disagreed good feedback and suggestions where heeded because it was the smart thing to do.
Now its we do what we want and the people who made things popular are ignored.

 

[Nick R]

Just use something else or build your own if you're that unhappy. It's free.

 

[Ericloewe]

Seriously?

I never made a single post saying corral shouldn't have been axed and i understand why they chose to do so.

Our memories may be fallible, but the forum's is much less so and your statement is dubious.

This topic has been beaten to death. 11.0-U2 was released with broken theming support, hence why everything looks absolutely wrong. Why did that happen? Urgent security fixes and not enough interest in keeping the new UI stable for now, which probably would've been better.

If you have specific concerns that you wish to discuss, please use the thread that contains that discussion. Note that discussing the -U2 new GUI is something of a waste of time (the devs have eyes, too), so stick to discussing the older versions of it for now.

There's a lot that could be improved in the new GUI, so let's keep the noise to a minimum and focus on useful suggestions.

 

[Magnus33]

People where keeping it to a thread tell you closed it.

Which is basically what happens when people talk about ,debate or voice their opinions on how things are going.
Instead of letting people do this is a single area you keep causing them to start up new threads just to voice what they think.

Rather then moderating the forum for people attacking other using inappropriate language, seaming or whatever its become i don't agree so i am closing it.

The forums are less about the core of what made freenas great then it is about do what we want or we shall not let you do at all.

At some point the higher ups in charge forgot that this is what made freenas popular and started trating the people as a commodity.

Now its clear what J was talking about with things being far worse then we knew.

Shame this place rocked once but all good things come to a end eventually.

 

[Ericloewe]

You've repeatedly expressed your dissatisfaction with... everything? A significant portion of everything? That's borderline spam.

So, consider yourself warned.

As for the closed thread, a long string of "THE UI SUCKS!" is not useful to anybody. When 11.1 comes out, I'll open a new thread for some useful GUI discussions, as previously stated - it will be aggressively moderated to remove anything that is not constructive. Feel free to try out the 11.0-U3 GUI to get a feeling for what needs to be changed to improve it, in the meantime.

To reiterate what I've said before, here's the link: https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/new-gui-improvements.55271/page-4#post-399604

 

[JoshDW19]

I want to reiterate that the new GUI is not feature complete and is provided only as a preview. I'd also like to add that the new FreeNAS GUI is completely themeable with only basic knowledge of CSS. We've developed several themes if the colors are a problem for you and it's incredibly straightforward to make a new one. The GUI team provided a demo of the theming support a couple of days ago, and it looks like they've fixed whatever the issue was internally. Anywho...if you would prefer to send me a message @Magnus33 I'll be glad to listen to your feedback on how we can improve the new GUI. I'd like to recommend that you wait until it is finished before you call foul. I think you'll be quite pleased with the result.

On another note, I'm not surprised that Eric closed the thread. From my perspective, it seemed like this was a complaint about a work in progress that happened to have a bug. That's kinda weird considering...it's not complete, and afaik it's not being offered as a released feature. At any rate, I'll open the floor once more for discussion. If anyone would like to provide constructive feedback that is actionable, I'm always glad to present it to the developers. I can not take a statement that basically says you're bad and you should feel bad for being bad and writing a bad GUI that is real bad. Perhaps I'm exaggerating, but I think you get the idea. If you don't like something just suggest an alternative so we can really give it a good look.

Lastly, please keep in mind that this was a complete rewrite as far as the GUI is concerned. I don't think that a few months for a new GUI is that bad.

Eric, I'm hoping this can become a constructive discussion, but please feel free to close the thread if it starts to go off the rails again.

Thanks,

-Josh

 

[diedrichg]

The GUI you're seeing in U3 is just a framework and placeholder for the top-secret GUI that is quietly being developed by a professional GUI designer and it's safely protected on an encrypted, offline server at iX. When the new GUI features and layout are complete, they will simply drop in the new skin and blow your fscking MIND!

 

[Evertb1]

I have spent about 20 years of my life being involved with the development of corporate software. And yes I have learned that a GUI is very important for the man-machine interface (I hope that's correct english). But come on people. The current interface is OK for daily use. OK it's not al that fancy and the structure leaves much to be desired but it is functional. Surely it is not al that hard to wait until the new GUI will be released.

 

[Ericloewe]

Please use the following thread to discuss the new GUI:

https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...-gui-suggestions-and-discussion-thread.58815/