What to do about Crashplan on 9.10?

[stualden]

Definitely do not move to Corral! That is horrible advice.
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/important-announcement-regarding-freenas-corral.53502/

I wouldn't do it myself. But ajschot seems to be reporting good experience, at least with respect to CrashPlan.

 

[ajschot]

I wouldn't do it myself. But ajschot seems to be reporting good experience, at least with respect to CrashPlan.

yes it works well, but if you need something like jails then NOT go to corral also it will be hard to switch later on back. But for me Corral has everything but if you start then go to 9.10.2 and use iohyve to install debian and install in Debian CrashPlan... there are a lot of manuals for this....
But if you want easy way (Corral is easier still!) I red in the official announcement that is had no iSCSI, strange... because it does! I have it running... but ok... for iXsystems it is not the best because they canned it, so no update's and no bugs are going to be solved. (but again it works for ME and I like it more then 9.10 it is not that you have to do it)

If you want the most stable way (in some oppinions) install FreeNAS 9.10, install Debian or Ubuntu in iohyve (you can do this via SSH, i think it is in this thread page 1 or 2??) and then in Debian or whatever linux you want, install CrashPlan for Linux and be sure it all starts automatically when FN9 starts and be sure you use and setup NFS share in FreeNAS and in you Linux VM.

I had it in 9.10 but it was clunky buggy way but it will do something.... that is one of the reasons why i am still on Corral.
Also you can install ESXi (FreeNAS geeks does not like this way too) and make a FreeNAS VM and a Linux/Windows VM and install CrashPLan in Linux/Windows and use a NFS or Samba share to connect your network in the VM.

or do it the FreeNAS way and wait till they have dockers back again

 

[ajschot]

Definitely do not move to Corral! That is horrible advice.
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/important-announcement-regarding-freenas-corral.53502/

Yes well.... the only reason if you start now is that it won't be updated. Again all the reasons of things missing (Jails, why would you care? iSCSI? It is there!) is really a matter of practice and find other solutions. Like that is what the CrashPlan for the reason, i tried a lot but the JAIL of CrashPlan can not backup to crashplan only from computer to FreeNAS. Easy as that... Docker version can do that.
Again: for ME Corral is working great, but maybe not for others.

 

[danb35]

the JAIL of CrashPlan can not backup to crashplan only from computer to FreeNAS.

Nonsense.

 

[stualden]

Nonsense.

I don't think the CrashPlan plugin under 9.10 can do anything at all, in any direction! That was the whole point of this thread.

 

[fracai]

I may have my history wrong, but I remember having a fully functional Crashplan installed and backing up to the Crashplan servers until 9.10. I think that's when we got bhyve and as soon as someone posted instructions as to how to install a VM I installed Crashplan on a Debian VM. But, that wasn't right away so I'm pretty sure I had Crashplan installed in a 9.3 jail running on 9.10 for a few weeks.

 

[stualden]

You're probably right. I was having to manually update and patch the plugin so often that failure for me must have coincided with 9.10. I finally got fed up and decided the plugin just wasn't worth the hassle. Have been running CrashPlan on a separate Windows box since then and all is well.

 

[danb35]

Yeah, I've been running it in an Ubuntu VM for quite a while--I'm not sure if it's the headless implementation, something unique to that system on FreeBSD, or something specific to the FreeNAS plugin, but something in there wasn't working reliably. But once (and while) running, it does/did support backing up to the CP servers, though.

 

[ajschot]

Nonsense.

did you tried the jail version? i did and i could not get it working.

 

[ajschot]

I may have my history wrong, but I remember having a fully functional Crashplan installed and backing up to the Crashplan servers until 9.10. I think that's when we got bhyve and as soon as someone posted instructions as to how to install a VM I installed Crashplan on a Debian VM. But, that wasn't right away so I'm pretty sure I had Crashplan installed in a 9.3 jail running on 9.10 for a few weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCDh9K16Q5Q
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/howto-debian-installation-on-frenas-bhyve/10591
Here is how to install debian (and more) but use this and then install vncserver and then you can use tightvnc on other machines in the network and install Crashplan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCDh9K16Q5Q

 

[ajschot]

oh yes... way 3:
VirtualBox

 

[danb35]

did you tried the jail version?

Yes, I did, and had it working for some time, albeit with challenges. I think running it in a VM is a better route at this point, though.

 

[ajschot]

Yes, I did, and had it working for some time, albeit with challenges. I think running it in a VM is a better route at this point, though.

besides that it is still version 3.6 and they are on 4.8.2 or something....

 

[danb35]

besides that it is still version 3.6 and they are on 4.8.2 or something....

(mostly) irrelevant, as it auto-updates--though the auto-updates are part of the challenges.

 

[ajschot]

i just installed 9.10.2 again to check and i know why i did not go this route of the jail. There is no GUI and it is a hell to setup with a desktopapp i could easily backup from my desktop to the Freenas box but it was not able to setup my freenas backup to Crashplan. Also the documentation where is linked to when clicking on the CrashPlan plugin does not work. So then the most easy way and best documented way was via Ubuntu or Debian (then i choosed Debian because it is lighter)

So iohyve or VirtualBox for a VM is the most easy way

i could not find all those files that need to be editted, also now i have problems with update crashplan and also with finding files needed.
It is a clucky way of using CrashPlan, glad i am still on Corral

 

[danb35]

It is a clucky way of using CrashPlan

Agreed, which is why I said

I think running it in a VM is a better route at this point, though.

But that doesn't change the fact that the plugin does work, including to back up to CrashPlan's servers. It can be made to update to the current version. It can be configured for headless use, with the GUI client on your PC controlling the backend process in the FreeNAS jail. The issues you mention have been discussed here ad nauseum, and can be addressed. It is thus incorrect to say that it doesn't work, or that it can't back up to the cloud.

 

[ajschot]

Agreed, which is why I said

But that doesn't change the fact that the plugin does work, including to back up to CrashPlan's servers. It can be made to update to the current version. It can be configured for headless use, with the GUI client on your PC controlling the backend process in the FreeNAS jail. The issues you mention have been discussed here ad nauseum, and can be addressed. It is thus incorrect to say that it doesn't work, or that it can't back up to the cloud.

No you're right, it was to much work, update it a strange way, getting the .ui_info file, then setting up on another machine and .... then can't backup at that setup time your other machine. I still would use a VM... i think it is so much easier.....
But i can't check because i can't get it to work now, but it could work with the plugin...
I can not get it updated to version 4.5.0 or later i gave up on it...