unable to rw mount a share via smb?

McFuddy

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I would like to start putting things on my new truenas scale box (for testing and familarizing myself with tns) but can't seem to mount an smb share?

I have tried
sudo mount -t cifs -o rw,user=root,iocharset=utf8,password=XXX,uid=root //192.168.1.124/main /home/user/Public/

(I know mounting as root is a no no but am also having trouble with creating a user account but will save that for another post)

I am able to mount it but it appears to be read only as when i try to write a file in the shared dir it gives me:
user@media:~/Public$ touch test
touch: cannot touch 'test': Permission denied

I asked in another forum if I was doing the command right and the consensus seemed to be yes so I am assuming I dont have the tns smb settings correct? I tried going with the various pre-set purposes, starting with default, but none of them seemed to enable me to write?

Thoughts?
 

Whattteva

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I am able to mount it but it appears to be read only as when i try to write a file in the shared dir it gives me:
This is likely because maproot, by default, isn't enabled due to security concerns. If you want read/write access, either specify maproot user option (not recommended) or mount it properly as a regular user with read/write access. Oh yeah, also use SMB ACL's if you plan on using the same share with other SMB users.
 

McFuddy

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Thanks!

So I managed to make a user account:
sudo mount -t cifs -o rw,user=notroot,iocharset=utf8,password=XXX,uid=1000 //192.168.1.124/main /home/user/Public/

but am still getting:
user@media:~/Public$ touch test
touch: cannot touch 'test': Permission denied

I am thinking I dont have something about the user account set up correctly?
 

Whattteva

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Which permission system are you using?
 

McFuddy

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Which permission system are you using?
sorry I've never understood permissions beyond chmod so applogies in advance.
When you say permission system are you talking about the interface (I went into system> local users> added a user) or like if i am using groups or user id... or am I totally off?
 

McFuddy

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Are you trying to mount a SMB share to your NAS, or mount a share from the NAS on another system? The former is unsupported.
Trying to mount a share from my NAS to another box. That is, on my desktop I want to mount a NAS share so I can just mount the share and cd into it. Sorry for the lack of clarity
 
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Code:
sudo mount -t cifs -o rw,user=notroot,uid=linuxuser,gid=linuxuser,forceuid,forcegid,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775,iocharset=utf8,password=XXX //192.168.1.124/main /home/user/Public/

Try with the above parameters.

I added this inside your command:
uid=linuxuser,gid=linuxuser,forceuid,forcegid,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775

Replace "linuxuser" with the actual username/group of your local account (on the desktop).
 

Whattteva

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sorry I've never understood permissions beyond chmod so applogies in advance.
When you say permission system are you talking about the interface (I went into system> local users> added a user) or like if i am using groups or user id... or am I totally off
In your dataset permissions, you can choose unix permissions or SMB ACL's.
 

McFuddy

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Code:
sudo mount -t cifs -o rw,user=notroot,uid=linuxuser,gid=linuxuser,forceuid,forcegid,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775,iocharset=utf8,password=XXX //192.168.1.124/main /home/user/Public/

Try with the above parameters.

I added this inside your command:
uid=linuxuser,gid=linuxuser,forceuid,forcegid,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775

Replace "linuxuser" with the actual username/group of your local account (on the desktop).
Thanks! I gave that a try, and was able to mount the share but its still not writable from the desktop :/
 
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What are the permissions you set on the dataset itself? (On TrueNAS.)

You're not trying to share the root dataset, are you?
 

McFuddy

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In your dataset permissions, you can choose unix permissions or SMB ACL's.
Ah, ok. I am 100% sure I went with the default - am assuming unix.

When I go to edit the permissions of the dataset I get:
Error: [EFAULT] [EINVAL] filesystem.setperm.path: Changes to permissions of ix-applications dataset are not permitted: /mnt/main/ix-applications.
(tried to attach screen shot, browser or website is not cooperating...)
 
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McFuddy

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What are the permissions you set on the dataset itself? (On TrueNAS.)

You're not trying to share the root dataset, are you?
ok, I'm not wholly sure about terminology but I have one pool, and 3vdevs in that pool and no other pools/vdevs. My pool is "main" (/mnt/main) so I assume main is my root dataset? when i go to view permissions it shows the root and the user (fuddy) as having the same permissions: user rwx, group rx, other rx.

I have a dir on main, /mnt/main/sort, and that what I have set up as a SMB share and is what I am trying to mount on my desktop

So assuming I'm not totally misunderstanidng thigns the user (fuddy) only has permissions to rx? I had tried to change the permissions but got the error:
Error: [EFAULT] [EINVAL] filesystem.setperm.path: Changes to permissions of ix-applications dataset are not permitted: /mnt/main/ix-applications.
 
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I have a dir on main, /mnt/main/sort, and that what I have set up as a SMB share and is what I am trying to mount on my desktop
Did you create a dataset named "sort" under the root dataset named "main"?

Changes to permissions of ix-applications dataset are not permitted: /mnt/main/ix-applications
Why are you fiddling with the special "ix-applications" dataset? You should never manually modify it. (It's used for "Apps", not user data storage.)


when i go to view permissions it shows the root and the user (fuddy) as having the same permissions: user rwx, group rx, other rx.
The "user" fuddy or the "group" fuddy? Did you actually try to modify the root dataset's permissions? (It should be left alone.)


We need to backtrack a bit.

What is the output for the following:
Code:
zfs list -r -t filesystem main


If using NFSv4 ACLs:
Code:
nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main

Code:
nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main/sort


Checking Unix permissions:
Code:
ls -la /mnt/main
 

McFuddy

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Did you create a dataset named "sort" under the root dataset named "main"?
I dont think so...?
Why are you fiddling with the special "ix-applications" dataset? You should never manually modify it. (It's used for "Apps", not user data storage.)
No idea, sorry :/
It was accidental, ie didnt know what I was doing. This is a test box for me to learn on, so just learned "never manually modify ix-applications dataset"
am thinking I will need to redo the setup
The "user" fuddy or the "group" fuddy?


We need to backtrack a bit.

What is the output for the following:
Code:
zfs list -r -t filesystem main
Code:
root@truenas[~]# zfs list -r -t filesystem main
NAME                                                                                                USED  AVAIL     REFER  MOUNTPOINT
main                                                                                               5.88G  17.9T      209K  /mnt/main
main/.system                                                                                       1.36G  17.9T     1.32G  legacy
main/.system/configs-cd93307f360c4818ad53abf4dac4059c                                               326K  17.9T      326K  legacy
main/.system/cores                                                                                  128K  1024M      128K  legacy
main/.system/ctdb_shared_vol                                                                        128K  17.9T      128K  legacy
main/.system/glusterd                                                                               139K  17.9T      139K  legacy
main/.system/rrd-cd93307f360c4818ad53abf4dac4059c                                                  31.2M  17.9T     31.2M  legacy
main/.system/samba4                                                                                 319K  17.9T      319K  legacy
main/.system/services                                                                               128K  17.9T      128K  legacy
main/.system/syslog-cd93307f360c4818ad53abf4dac4059c                                               3.64M  17.9T     3.64M  legacy
main/.system/webui                                                                                  128K  17.9T      128K  legacy
main/ix-applications                                                                               4.36G  17.9T      192K  /mnt/main/ix-applications
main/ix-applications/catalogs                                                                       733M  17.9T      733M  /mnt/main/ix-applications/catalogs
main/ix-applications/default_volumes                                                                134K  17.9T      134K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/default_volumes
main/ix-applications/docker                                                                        3.26G  17.9T     22.2M  /mnt/main/ix-applications/docker
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main/ix-applications/docker/f4d59667ffb25cd568b4a76e1264a0568f4988fd389200870b064084de245d7e-init   123K  17.9T      551K  legacy
main/ix-applications/docker/f544992515e4d5a7ababa298b6e1b03cb988fe5b8bc589664543b46c786db71f       56.9M  17.9T      155M  legacy
main/ix-applications/docker/f828cc7406e9ce21b9ae76f460ab3ffce2399548f6093c90ae1583f935437e4f       31.0M  17.9T     35.7M  legacy
main/ix-applications/docker/f92c9fbc620c2f6a81d98a454d92b28435997981a5adf1c0d03f09c1d0528a13        291K  17.9T     41.9M  legacy
main/ix-applications/docker/fa48c99835b75f897d03b5a78365b21a118c6c558ef99e7eaded8bbe577f5eab        170K  17.9T     5.73M  legacy
main/ix-applications/docker/fd6bdd9da4e23c47fd5f827fd2ed4e5cf39854a0a10b51d33eba4d1e917b5464       6.26M  17.9T     6.26M  legacy
main/ix-applications/k3s                                                                            127M  17.9T      127M  /mnt/main/ix-applications/k3s
main/ix-applications/k3s/kubelet                                                                    810K  17.9T      810K  legacy
main/ix-applications/releases                                                                       269M  17.9T      189K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka                                                              2.14M  17.9T      145K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/charts                                                        397K  17.9T      397K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/charts
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes                                                      1.61M  17.9T      133K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes/ix_volumes                                            134K  17.9T      134K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes/ix_volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes/pvc-1d6e446b-34d9-4865-9428-90ecbec8b234              134K   256G      134K  legacy
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes/pvc-2d11f3d9-c413-407d-8d7c-7329051cac42              134K   256G      134K  legacy
main/ix-applications/releases/czkawka/volumes/pvc-7eb86a13-3b52-4e77-9b51-5d739b98c249             1.08M   256G     1.08M  legacy
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata                                                         1.56M  17.9T      145K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/charts                                                   265K  17.9T      265K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/charts
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes                                                 1.16M  17.9T      134K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes                                      1.03M  17.9T      145K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-config                             281K  17.9T      281K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-config
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-data                               139K  17.9T      139K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-data
main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-elasticsearch-data                 487K  17.9T      487K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/diskoverdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-elasticsearch-data
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata                                                               264M  17.9T      133K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/charts                                                        254K  17.9T      254K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/charts
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes                                                       264M  17.9T      130K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes                                            264M  17.9T      142K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-cache                                   263M  17.9T      263M  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-cache
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-config                                  172K  17.9T      172K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-config
main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-lib                                     224K  17.9T      224K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/netdata/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-lib
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism                                                           1.16M  17.9T      145K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/charts                                                     245K  17.9T      245K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/charts
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes                                                    796K  17.9T      134K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes                                         662K  17.9T      155K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_import                    133K  17.9T      133K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_import
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_original                  133K  17.9T      133K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_original
main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_storage                   241K  17.9T      241K  /mnt/main/ix-applications/releases/photoprism/volumes/ix_volumes/ix-photoprism_storage

Code:
nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main
Code:
root@truenas[~]# nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main
nfs4xdr_getfacl: Failed to get NFSv4 ACL

Code:
nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main/sort
Code:
root@truenas[~]# nfs4xdr_getfacl /mnt/main/sort
nfs4xdr_getfacl: Failed to get NFSv4 ACL


its starting to sound like I need to nuke what I made and start over? (which is totally fine, this is why I havent migrated my old [unraid, forgive me] server to this new tns box])
 
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You never posted the output of this:
Code:
ls -la /mnt/main

I have a feeling you (inadvertently) created a folder under /mnt/main/

If so, hopefully it's empty. Remove this residual folder with rmdir /mnt/main/foldername



Remove the "SMB Share" you configured.

Create a new dataset under the root dataset, naming it whatever you want.

Give this new dataset proper permissions for whomever. (The ACL "presets" cover most common use-cases.)

Create an "SMB share" that points to this path. (E.g, /mnt/main/whatever)



Out of curiosity, did you watch any YouTube videos about TrueNAS, and then try to apply their steps?
 
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McFuddy

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You never posted the output of this:
Code:
ls -la /mnt/main
Code:
root@truenas[/mnt/main]# ls -la /mnt/main                 
total 24
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root  5 Feb 13 06:30 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  3 Feb 11 13:54 ..
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 13 Feb 12 07:20 apps
drwxr-xr-x  7 root root  8 Feb 11 14:02 ix-applications
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  2 Feb 12 13:25 sort

I have a feeling you inadvertently created a folder under /mnt/main/
yeah, I can tell you I did
If so, hopefully it's empty. Remove this residual folder with rmdir /mnt/main/foldername
it was empty and I just rmdir'd it.
Remove the "SMB Share" you configured.
done.
Create a new dataset under the root dataset, naming it whatever you want.
ok, will do, but some questions so I better understand what datasets are relative to pools, vdevs, etc.

It sounds like a dataset is some sort of space that sits on top (i guess or on the bottom depending how one looks at it) of a pool?
So i dont need additional "Free space" to create a dataset?
Since I normally separate my stuff into dirs by (generally) types of files, so a dir that is mostly full of videos, a dir mostly full of audio, graphics, docs, etc would it make sense to make, instead of separate dirs to make separate datasets? like a videos dataset, graphics dataset etc?
Give this new dataset proper permissions for whomever. (The ACL "presets" cover most common use-cases.)

Create a share that points to this path.
got it, i hope!
Out of curiosity, did you watch any YouTube videos about TrueNAS, and then try to apply their steps?
yep, lots of them. I think one of them mislead me or i misunderstood (more likely the later) when trying to setup apps.

btw, can I change the "main" (system dataset pool) to another name?
 
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It sounds like a dataset is some sort of space that sits on top (i guess or on the bottom depending how one looks at it) of a pool?
So i dont need additional "Free space" to create a dataset?
Since I normally separate my stuff into dirs by (generally) types of files, so a dir that is mostly full of videos, a dir mostly full of audio, graphics, docs, etc would it make sense to make, instead of separate dirs to make separate datasets? like a videos dataset, graphics dataset etc?
Datasets are essentially filesystems. They only take up space insomuch as you save files inside them. Their capacity is shared by the entire pool. Datasets have their own properties, snapshots, and records. (They can also be independently "replicated" to other pools.)

The reason you would create (and even "nest") different datasets depends on how you're going to use it, and what type of data you'll be reading/writing. That's up to you. Then you can configure them to best handle their roles.

I don't want to sound mean, but these are fundamental concepts for using ZFS, and hence an appliance that rides on ZFS.


yep, lots of them. I think one of them mislead me or i misunderstood (more likely the later) when trying to setup apps.
CURSE THOSE YOUTUBERS!!!! *shakes fist violently* :mad:


btw, can I change the "main" (system dataset pool) to another name?
You technically "can", but for your sake, I'd leave it alone. Or since this is just a "test", you can recreate your pool from scratch if you prefer.
 

Whattteva

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It sounds like a dataset is some sort of space that sits on top (i guess or on the bottom depending how one looks at it) of a pool?
So i dont need additional "Free space" to create a dataset?
Since I normally separate my stuff into dirs by (generally) types of files, so a dir that is mostly full of videos, a dir mostly full of audio, graphics, docs, etc would it make sense to make, instead of separate dirs to make separate datasets? like a videos dataset, graphics dataset etc?
I find datasets is a concept that is not very well-explained by many guides including even the official docs. It's a lot more than just a folder/dir. It's its own distinct file system. Think of it as a completely separate partition that happens to be really flexible (no hard capacity limits unless you set quotas). So if you're moving a file from one dataset to the next, it's not an instant operation because it actually has to copy the file and delete the original rather than a simple pointer operation. Moreover, snapshots are done at the dataset level, so if you want to structure your backups so you don't have a giant dataset to snapshot (which will take forever to initially send to another dataset), multiple datasets is a good way to structure this. It's also not advisable to mix in SMB ACL's and UNIX in the same dataset. I'd advise keeping them separate to avoid a lot of permissions headaches.

yep, lots of them. I think one of them mislead me or i misunderstood (more likely the later) when trying to setup apps.
Yeah, pretty typical of YouTube videos that are more catered towards being click-baity and sensational vs being more informative (but tends to be more boring).

btw, can I change the "main" (system dataset pool) to another name?
You certainly can, but it requires the CLI and the following steps:
  1. Export your pool using the web UI.
  2. Import your pool using the CLI: zfs import <old_name> <new_name>
  3. Export your pool out using the CLI: zfs export <new_name>
  4. Import your pool again, this time using the web UI.
  5. Profit.
 
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McFuddy

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Datasets are essentially filesystems. They only take up space insomuch as you save files inside them. Their capacity is shared by the entire pool. Datasets have their own properties, snapshots, and records. (They can also be independently "replicated" to other pools.)

The reason you would create (and even "nest") different datasets depends on how you're going to use it, and what type of data you'll be reading/writing. That's up to you. Then you can configure them to best handle their roles.

I don't want to sound mean, but these are fundamental concepts for using ZFS, and hence an appliance that rides on ZFS.
Not mean at all, in fact I appreciate your patience - and the recommended article; will continue the (non-youtube) studying there :)
CURSE THOSE YOUTUBERS!!!! *shakes fist violently* :mad:
yeah, I've been reading as well but am not the fastest of learnings and the step by step tutorials is helpful sometimes (assuming they are themselves doing it correctly).
You technically "can", but for your sake, I'd leave it alone. Or since this is just a "test", you can recreate your pool from scratch if you prefer.
will nuke n pave then LOL
 
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