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[Mynorx]

I'm gonna go with members EXPERIENCE and thread recommendations. Can you guys help me out by letting me know of any quirks I may run into while using these components? I also ran into a little problem at the super micro website, the compatible memory listed on their site cannot be found on newegg. Can you guys recommend some good tested memory for this mobo? that can be found on newegg I'll also call them tomorrow morning and ask their tech support department. I wanna try to get all the components tomorrow so I have something fun to play with over the long weekend : P Thanks

BTW if I get to order my components early enough, I'll be able to will call them at new egg MAÑANA. If you guys haven't been, its a pretty sweet location, they have all kinds of cool floor demos set up.

I used this guide to build my components configuration
http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/hardware-recommendations-read-this-first.23069/

1.Mobo. SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-F-O uATX Server Motherboard LGA 1150 DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ERMICRO_MBD-X10SL7-F-O-_-13-182-821-_-Product

2. CPU. Intel Core i3-4330 Haswell Dual-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 54W Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116945

3. Memory I cant find the memory they recommend for this board on new egg. do you guys know of any other ECC RAM I can use with it?
http://www.supermicro.com/support/r...B86C662FB2FD6&prid=0&type=0&ecc=0&reg=0&fbd=0

4. Flash Drive Kingston DataTraveler microDuo 16GB Micro USB OTG Flash Drive Model DTDUO/16GB
20% off promo code if any one is interested EMCPBHB83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239886

5. PSU ENERMAX REVOLUTION X't ERX530AWT 530W ATX12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194111&ignorebbr=1
I have an old enermax I purchased in 2003~4 that's been in a bunch of systems, Its still running to this day. This one should be solid as well.

6. 4 of these Western Digital Red NAS Hard Drive WD30EFRX 3TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" NAS Hard Drive
$10 bucks off promo code if any one is interested SYFHD825
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236344

7. Case LIAN LI PC-Q25B Black Aluminum Mini-ITX Tower (looks cool)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339

 

[DJ9]

Try SuperBiz for the memory. Here's the link for the Samsung memory: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D38GRE160S

Just a happy customer btw.

 

[Ericloewe]

For Supermicro X10s there's also Micron/Crucial's 8GB 1.35V DIMMs, which were validated by Supermicro. They can be bought directly from Crucial, too, which was a painless experience in Europe. To get specific model numbers, use their tool to choose your motherboard and pick the 1.35V 8GB DIMMs.

Other than that, I'd just recommend you go with a better PSU. A Seasonic G-450 is plenty for your build (with room to spare for some 8-9 more HDDs) and will be a much better PSU. The G-550 is a modest premium if you're more comfortable with 500ish Watt PSUs.

 

[tech360]

Correct me if I am wrong but the MB is micro ATX and the case is mini ITX. I don't think the MB will be compatible. May want to look at a Fractal case instead.

 

[Ericloewe]

Correct me if I am wrong but the MB is micro ATX and the case is mini ITX. I don't think the MB will be compatible. May want to look at a Fractal case instead.

Oh yeah, it will never fit. All Supermicro X10s are microATX at the smallest.

 

[jgreco]

And "looks cool" is not a particularly important quality in a NAS chassis. Look for "great airflow" (i.e. "is actually cool") instead.

 

[Mynorx]

Ah... Thanks for the help guys. I'm gonna look for a new case. I also called Crucial and the tech told me that their internal Part number: CT4484984 is 100% compatible with the X10SL7-F mother board. Neweggs exact same part number translates to this model number Model CT2KIT102472BD160B.
this is a 16GB Kit.

links

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/x10sl7-f/CT4484984

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=ct2kit102472bd160b-_-20-148-770-_-Product

also updated to this Seasonic PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

Thanks for the help

 

[Ericloewe]

So, Crucial has a model number for each motherboard and product combination (or at least for some), judging by the fact that the model numbers lead to a page with the specific motherboard chosen with their tool...

In any case, the model number you got from Newegg is the same as my kit (no surprise there, fortunately). When you get your stuff, can you please confirm that the DIMMs report to be the following part:

Micron MT18KSF1G72AZ-1G6E1

That's the part that Supermicro tested and listed for X10 motherboards. I've been recommending it a lot, but I'd feel a lot better if someone else validated my results.

 

[Mynorx]

I'm headed to the will call center. I'll post the information in a few hours.

 

[Mynorx]

Looks like it is the one you've been recommending

 

[gabeszphoto]

Hello,

I would like to ask your opinion about the following configuration that I would like to build in the future:

• ASROCK H61MV-ITX - http://is.gd/ZOwnMU
• INTEL Celeron G1620 2.70GHz - http://is.gd/7yeDMA
• CRUCIAL 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
• 2pc WD Caviar Green 2TB 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 WD20EZRX - http://is.gd/JWudbX
  ADATA 32GB SATA3 2,5" Premier Pro SSD
• CORSAIR VS Series VS350 Power Supply - http://is.gd/I2yUpm

My basically needs are Apple Time Machine Backup, Plex Media Server, Bittorrent, Cloud service.
Thank you!
Best Regards.

 

[ALFA]

Hello,

I would like to ask your opinion about the following configuration that I would like to build in the future:

• [URL='http://ipon.hu/webshop/product/asrock_h61mv_itx/423875']ASROCK H61MV-ITX

• - http://is.gd/ZOwnMU
• INTEL Celeron G1620 2.70GHz - http://is.gd/7yeDMA
• CRUCIAL 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
• 2pc WD Caviar Green 2TB 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 WD20EZRX - http://is.gd/JWudbX
  ADATA 32GB SATA3 2,5" Premier Pro SSD
• CORSAIR VS Series VS350 Power Supply - http://is.gd/I2yUpm

My basically needs are Apple Time Machine Backup, Plex Media Server, Bittorrent, Cloud service.
Thank you!
Best Regards.

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[Ericloewe]

Looks like it is the one you've been recommending

Thanks for the confirmation!

 

[Mynorx]

No problem, I'm glad I can offer some help as well.

BTW I see that finding the right type of compatible memory seems to be a big discussion around here. Supermicros website offers very little options as to what type of memory they recommend. When I called Crucial Tech Support they told me to use the search tool at the top right corner of the page, for example I searched for X10SL7-F and they list fourteen different part number that are guaranteed to be compatible with that mobo. The other trick is to ask them to give you their reseller partners product numbers because the are not the same. Then you can just buy the memory from one of their reseller partners. Here in the states its newegg.com on crucials website the 16gb are listed for 205.00 new eggs price is only 149.00 US.

http://www.crucial.com/SearchDispla...urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&type=key&storeId=10151

 

[jgreco]

In general any properly matched DDR3 should be suitable, but now that enough people have run into the Elpida trainwreck, or whatever the issue is, the cynic in me says it just isn't worth the few saved bucks. Getting something that is expected to work the first time is better.

 

[Mynorx]

I've done quite a bit of research over the long weekend, From reading threads to watching some very informative youtube videos. I've got a question about setting up my hard drives; I purchased 4 - 3TB Reds. My mobo is a X10SLL-F-O its got, 2 white colored SATA 3.0 ports 4 Black Sata 2.0 Ports and 8 Blue SAS Ports. From what I read is that hard drives can't saturate the SATA BUS, my concern is with stability and making sure I set up everything correctly from the start, its something that keeps coming up. I understand that the blue SAS ports are meant for 10,000 and 15,000 rpm hard drives but can still be used for regular hard drives. Do you guys know of any issues that may come up from using the Blue SAS ports? Those are the ones I decided to use and I currently have freenas running, but have not set up the pool.

Now from the video below I also understand that by using 4 hard drives I can still use RAIDZ which will have an insignificant performance hit on the system. And the best performance will come from a 3 or a 5 disc set up. Since this set up will be for my office and have CRUCIAL customer data, Photoshop files, etc... I need stability and reliability. All of my data does not surpass 1TB and I don't for see it going much more than that for a while. Should I set up my NAS with 3 - drives for a proper RAIDZ configuration and save the 4th drive in case of a hard drive replacement? Should I just use all 4 drives in the RAIDZ configuration like the video states or should I buy a 5th drive again for a proper RAIDZ set up I'm kinda leaning towards the first option. But I wanted to get some expert input before I proceed. BTW I currently Sync my old NAS with Allway Sync to a network drive then that gets backed up to Crash plan, from what I understand is that they keep all my files even if I delete them from my systems. So that's some extra protection even from bit rot.

Thank You!

Forward to minute 1:25 on the video.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxnJH-8YvC8&list=PLgKBSCAcGA57juSDNE09bc7Ub491DIFVj

 

[Ericloewe]

I've done quite a bit of research over the long weekend, From reading threads to watching some very informative youtube videos. I've got a question about setting up my hard drives; I purchased 4 - 3TB Reds. My mobo is a X10SLL-F-O its got, 2 white colored SATA 3.0 ports 4 Black Sata 2.0 Ports and 8 Blue SAS Ports. From what I read is that hard drives can't saturate the SATA BUS, my concern is with stability and making sure I set up everything correctly from the start, its something that keeps coming up. I understand that the blue SAS ports are meant for 10,000 and 15,000 rpm hard drives but can still be used for regular hard drives. Do you guys know of any issues that may come up from using the Blue SAS ports? Those are the ones I decided to use and I currently have freenas running, but have not set up the pool.

Now from the video below I also understand that by using 4 hard drives I can still use RAIDZ which will have an insignificant performance hit on the system. And the best performance will come from a 3 or a 5 disc set up. Since this set up will be for my office and have CRUCIAL customer data, Photoshop files, etc... I need stability and reliability. All of my data does not surpass 1TB and I don't for see it going much more than that for a while. Should I set up my NAS with 3 - drives for a proper RAIDZ configuration and save the 4th drive in case of a hard drive replacement? Should I just use all 4 drives in the RAIDZ configuration like the video states or should I buy a 5th drive again for a proper RAIDZ set up I'm kinda leaning towards the first option. But I wanted to get some expert input before I proceed. BTW I currently Sync my old NAS with Allway Sync to a network drive then that gets backed up to Crash plan, from what I understand is that they keep all my files even if I delete them from my systems. So that's some extra protection even from bit rot.

Thank You!

Forward to minute 1:25 on the video.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxnJH-8YvC8&list=PLgKBSCAcGA57juSDNE09bc7Ub491DIFVj

Use RAIDZ2 or RAIDZ3, depending on how paranoid you are. The performance impact of not following the 2^n+p rule is said to be trivial or nonexistent when using compression.

Since you have four drives, I'd recommend RAIDZ2 - as a bonus, you're following the rule that may not be quite as rigid as it sounds.

 

[Mynorx]

Thanks Ericloewe I will follow your recommendations.

On a side note; I was doing a little more research and found that the BLUE SAS PORTS on the mobo are controlled by a raid controller called LSI 2308 which handles the drives in a RAID ARRAY. From what I can tell you don't wanna run them like this. What you want to do is to FLASH the firmware in IT mode, that means the the controller will not act as a raid any longer. Link (you want to flash with IT file, if you want to revert to Raid mode Flash again with IR file) I called supermicro and that's what they told me . I really hope this helps someone just starting out like myself. You'll want to use version PH16.0.1-IT.zip (Thanks for the heads up mjws00)

ftp://ftp.supermicro.com/Driver/SAS/LSI/2308/Firmware/IT/
go to previous releases and get PH16.0.1-IT.zip (Newer versions are not compatible.)
I'm not sure why links don't work but I'm sure google will help you find the files.

update for us noobs
heres a nice video showing how to flash the firmware by using the UEFI in the bios, much easier than having to create a bootable usb. Make sure you look at your mobo for the white sticker that has the SAS ADDRESS.
eg. SAS: 0000000 000000000 you will need to write down the last 9 digits you will get a prompt to enter them at the end of the flash

I cant make out what hes configuring at the end. Maybe supermicro has some information on the settings.
Update. I spoke with the guys over at super micro and they said no further configuration is needed. I did go in there and disable booting from the drives. Seems not be causing an issue.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f1jhNKw33c

 

[mjws00]

Mynorx,

Make sure you match driver version with firmware. For 9.2.x FreeNAS you want p16 firmware.

Supposedly a mismatch can cause problems. Enough so that they check and warn in 9.3.

Tons of threads on flashing to IT around including jgreco's definitive LSI thread. http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/confused-about-that-lsi-card-join-the-crowd.11901

 

[Mynorx]

Thanks mjws00