second hand sas drives - are these ok?

blueether

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Hi all

I picked up a pair of old IBM x3659 m3 servers for around $100 (NZ) each to replace the desktop that has been running freenas for about a year now.

specs:
cpu: x2 5620
mem: 48 and 96 GB ecc ddr3
raid: m1015 (now flashed to IT)
lsi 9212-4i4e x2 in each
extra intel dual gigabit NIC in each plus the dual onboard gigabit NIC

One has 4 136 GB sas drives in and the other has 8 600 GB sas drives. I'm not too worried about the 136 drives but I'd like to use the 600's as a backup (I plan to use the lower spec one as a backup). There will be new sata drives that will go in the other one.

Are these drives ok to use?
Code:
root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# zpool status -v SAS_600_Z2
  pool: SAS_600_Z2
 state: ONLINE
  scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0 days 00:00:01 with 0 errors on Sat Jun 22 19:36:56 2019
config:

        NAME                                            STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        SAS_600_Z2                                      ONLINE       0     0     0
          raidz2-0                                      ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/7e35d9af-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/8b81303d-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/98a6c5fc-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/a6c79d04-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/b4821bbd-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/c2726f5e-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/d0dc8260-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0
            gptid/de653557-94b9-11e9-b068-000c29405c32  ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors
root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da1
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              ST600MM0006
Revision:             B56T
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
LU is fully provisioned
Rotation Rate:        10500 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000c50074198a0f
Serial number:        S0M56EQK0000K53968EC
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:03:55 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     37 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 0

Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
  number of hours powered up = 7074.73
  number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 1

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:   1325118345        0         0  1325118345          0     116183.297           0
write:         0        0         0         0          1      15523.521           0
verify: 1152572776        0         0  1152572776          0       6886.947           0

Non-medium error count:      139

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -    7073                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 3777 seconds [63.0 minutes]

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da2
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              ST600MM0006
Revision:             B56T
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
LU is fully provisioned
Rotation Rate:        10500 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000c50074250b87
Serial number:        S0M0Y6F40000M407225M
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:03:59 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     39 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 0

Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
  number of hours powered up = 7051.77
  number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 1

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:   3157756852        0         0  3157756852          0       1453.591           0
write:         0        0         0         0          1       5674.616           0
verify: 1059087137        0         0  1059087137          0        523.097           0

Non-medium error count:       37

No self-tests have been logged

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da2
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              ST600MM0006
Revision:             B56T
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
LU is fully provisioned
Rotation Rate:        10500 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000c50074250b87
Serial number:        S0M0Y6F40000M407225M
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:11:32 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     39 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 0

Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
  number of hours powered up = 7051.88
  number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 53

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:   3157756852        0         0  3157756852          0       1453.591           0
write:         0        0         0         0          1       5674.663           0
verify: 1059087831        0         0  1059087831          0        523.097           0

Non-medium error count:       37

No self-tests have been logged

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da3
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              ST600MM0006
Revision:             B56T
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
LU is fully provisioned
Rotation Rate:        10500 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000c50074261d0b
Serial number:        S0M3NXYR0000M512EUQA
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:11:40 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     39 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 0

Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
  number of hours powered up = 7051.85
  number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 53

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:   2576738356        0         0  2576738356          0     115317.416           0
write:         0        0         0         0          2      14863.446           0
verify: 1985559945        0         0  1985559945          0       6711.879           0

Non-medium error count:       99

No self-tests have been logged

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da4
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              MBF2600RC
Revision:             SB27
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Rotation Rate:        10025 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x50000393a8204108
Serial number:        EA09PBB0G7M2
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:11:52 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     40 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Manufactured in week 46 of year 2011
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  46
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  200000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  0
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:          0        0         0         0          0    1113244.190           0
write:         0        0         0         0          0       7329.258           0
verify:        0        0         0         0          0        608.213           0

Non-medium error count:       96

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -       1                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 5358 seconds [89.3 minutes]

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da45
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

/dev/da45: Unable to detect device type
Please specify device type with the -d option.

Use smartctl -h to get a usage summary

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da5
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              HUC109060CSS60
Revision:             J2EE
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
Rotation Rate:        10000 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000cca043a40844
Serial number:        KSJX6KRJ
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:12:09 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     38 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Manufactured in week 04 of year 2014
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  4
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  947
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 12061414973767680

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:          0        0         0         0   55771565      66441.354           0
write:         0        0         0         0     240803      26394.369           0
verify:        0        0         0         0     143826      18514.201           0

Non-medium error count:        0

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -       0                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 4882 seconds [81.4 minutes]

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da6
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              MBF2600RC
Revision:             SB27
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Rotation Rate:        10025 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x50000393a81156ec
Serial number:        EA09PBB0F8R2
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:12:25 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     39 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Manufactured in week 45 of year 2011
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  44
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  200000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  0
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:          0        1         0         0          0    1787062.553           0
write:         0        0         0         0          0      85374.912           0
verify:        0        0         0         0          0      35021.211           0

Non-medium error count:       97

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -       3                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 5358 seconds [89.3 minutes]

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da7
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              MBF2600RC
Revision:             SB27
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Rotation Rate:        10025 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x50000393a82070b8
Serial number:        EA09PBB0G8P5
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:12:33 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     36 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Manufactured in week 46 of year 2011
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  47
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  200000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  0
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:          0        4         0         0          0    1792929.478           0
write:         0        1         0         0          0      87219.517           0
verify:        0        0         0         0          0      35020.846           0

Non-medium error count:       95

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -       1                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 5358 seconds [89.3 minutes]

root@IMB-FreeNAS[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da8
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               IBM-ESXS
Product:              HUC109060CSS60
Revision:             J2EE
Compliance:           SPC-4
User Capacity:        600,127,266,816 bytes [600 GB]
Logical block size:   512 bytes
Formatted with type 2 protection
Rotation Rate:        10000 rpm
Form Factor:          2.5 inches
Logical Unit id:      0x5000cca043a34234
Serial number:        KSJWTBUJ
Device type:          disk
Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
Local Time is:        Sat Jun 22 20:12:54 2019 NZST
SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is:     Enabled
Temperature Warning:  Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Health Status: OK

Current Drive Temperature:     32 C
Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C

Manufactured in week 04 of year 2014
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  5
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  948
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 12060162621702144

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:          0        0         0         0   55536193      66535.085           0
write:         0        0         0         0     277205      26396.090           0
verify:        0        0         0         0      80751      18514.205           0

Non-medium error count:        0

SMART Self-test log
Num  Test              Status                 segment  LifeTime  LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
     Description                              number   (hours)
# 1  Background short  Completed                   -       0                 - [-   -    -]

Long (extended) Self Test duration: 4882 seconds [81.4 minutes]

 

jgreco

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If the power-on hours are only around 7000, that's less than a year's worth of runtime. Good chance they'll last awhile longer.
 

Chris Moore

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blueether

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Not a lot of capacity there.
should be ok for a backup of photos/video of the kids and travels etc, the music collection is all on CD and can be re-ripped and well the 'media' is searchable

Home use only
 

Chris Moore

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You might be able to replace them with larger capacity drives. An IT mode SAS controller will handle SATA drives just as well as it does the SAS drives.
You can always do it later. These are 10000 RPM drives, so they might be a little on the loud side. If you are not looking for high speed storage, you could go with something with a lower RPM and higher capacity.
 
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