- Aug 26, 2013
That's... weird... A product in alpha usually has a fixed feature set.
How was that arrogant?You guess incorrectly. If I hadn't read them, why would I ask here?
I don't like the way you speak to me, by the way. You're arrogant and you talk down to people instead of engaging them in conversation.
But JKH's comment mentions that it's not planned to be used in FreeNAS.... The blog post was talking about FreeBSD.Sigh... If I thought that the blog post was talking about freenas, why would I ask here if Docker would work on freenas? It would be obvious that it would, since that blog post advertised it a year ago - or so I, in your world, would have believed.
The reason I'm asking is that I know it's possible, but I don't know if it will be included! That should tell you that I know the difference between freebsd and freenas.
I don't have the time or inclination to continue this discussion.
Let me try to explain a couple of things that may help reduce confusion (or maybe not, but I can only try):Just out of interest, would what he describes be possible in FreeNAS 10? Run images in docker as if they were complete machines with full root like jails, but without all the limitations of jails?
In other words, could I run a docker container on FreeNAS the same way I can run it on my mac right now?
Let me try to explain a couple of things that may help reduce confusion (or maybe not, but I can only try):
- Docker is more than just a container format, it is also an ABI, which is to say that applications you compile against the Docker ABI and then ship *in binary form* will run on any "Docker Distribution" without, at least in theory, incompatibility issues.
- The Docker ABI is based on the Linux64 ABI (it's a subset) and FreeBSD has, historically, only emulated as much of the Linux64 ABI as was necessary to run Flash and Java and a handful of other apps. Therefore, the "FreeBSD Docker" is not going to run 100,000+ docker containers anytime soon without a lot of concerted work on substantially improving the Linux ABI emulation. Think of FreeBSD Docker as more of a highly experimental demo of "what could be someday."
- FreeNAS 10 will support Docker, though by proxying all of the requests into a boot2docker VM, which is a native Linux distribution and hence fully compatible with those 100,000+ Docker containers. FreeNAS simply saves you the hassle of having to know that by doing the proxy magic behind the scenes, so the user thinks they are running the Docker container(s) "On FreeNAS" but really running it in another, light-weight, VM context.
They don't conflict at all - in one point I'm talking about the Docker port to FreeBSD, which just isn't particularly capable for the reasons I outlined. The second point outlines what we are going to do (have done, are doing) instead - don't use FreeBSD docker, use Linux docker to run linux apps in Linux containers (just proxied to a boot2docker VM, since FreeNAS is obviously not based on Linux).Your second point and third point either conflict with each other or I don't get them.
Is Docker going to run 'properly' under FreeNAS10 or not? I got the impression it was going to?