another FreeNAS newbie here

[Artur]

Hi there,

I'd like to say nice hello to every one. I'm currently fighting with the FreeNAS and ESXi on my mac mini. Wish me luck.

Regards
A.

 

[anodos]

Hi there,

I'd like to say nice hello to every one. I'm currently fighting with the FreeNAS and ESXi on my mac mini. Wish me luck.

Regards
A.

FreeNAS on top of ESXi on top of a Mac Mini???
Good luck with that! :D

 

[SweetAndLow]

Hi there,

I'd like to say nice hello to every one. I'm currently fighting with the FreeNAS and ESXi on my mac mini. Wish me luck.

Regards
A.

You should probably just stop, what you are trying to do won't end well.

 

[Artur]

You should probably just stop, what you are trying to do won't end well.

Why do you say that? I've just tested dyndns, winshare and ftp access - all looks quite promising. I'm thrilled though, how the jails will be performing in such scenario. I presume there will be some road blocks. For the moment though network wise all looks fine.

 

[pirateghost]

Why do you say that? I've just tested dyndns, winshare and ftp access - all looks quite promising. I'm thrilled though, how the jails will be performing in such scenario. I presume there will be some road blocks. For the moment though network wise all looks fine.

Heh. You haven't read the stickies have you?

 

[Artur]

By "stickies" you mean those two entries from the section :
Forum Guidelines (Read Before Posting) ??

of course I have. There is one nice sentence I simply love, though. Let me cite it here "Virtualization of FreeNAS ... if you can't do this without help, you shouldn't be doing it". I mean nothing more, nothing less.

 

[depasseg]

I think they are referring to the Mac Mini as a hardware choice.

 

[Artur]

@depasseg : yeah...obviously :) Still, I don't see a reason why anyone would disregard the macmini as a choice for esxi platform to host freenas on this way. So far I haven't come across any issues with the "hardware" :) NIC is available, vlans are working fine with other guests (sonicwall on the edge), resources are being allocated correctly. What do you want more. For my own home-lab purposes I don't need to drag half of a rack into my living room :)

 

[pirateghost]

But how are you getting disks passed through to your VM?

 

[Artur]

But how are you getting disks passed through to your VM?

Rephrase your question please. Anyway if I was able to install vm hypervisor on that hardware then obviously the disks must be "somehow" made available though the hypervisor to whatever guest system I install. I haven't done to much apart from initialization of the initial disks available in hypervisor. Then choosing the right freenas iso file from the directory holding my iso files on one of the disks available did the job quite easily. After that I added another "virtual" disk, in addition to the one of 15GB what I've picked up for FreeNAS itelf, started the guest (FreeNAS exactly) with the iso file attached during the boot time and that's it. The installation finished successfully as by the book. Btw. there is video about it on youtube if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIM6da2r7UE

 

[anodos]

https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...ative-for-those-seeking-virtualization.26095/

 

[pirateghost]

Rephrase your question please. Anyway if I was able to install vm hypervisor on that hardware then obviously the disks must be "somehow" made available though the hypervisor to whatever guest system I install. I haven't done to much apart from initialization of the initial disks available in hypervisor. Then choosing the right freenas iso file from the directory holding my iso files on one of the disks available did the job quite easily. After that I added another "virtual" disk, in addition to the one of 15GB what I've picked up for FreeNAS itelf, started the guest (FreeNAS exactly) with the iso file attached during the boot time and that's it. The installation finished successfully as by the book. Btw. there is video about it on youtube if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIM6da2r7UE

You have obviously not read the stickies regarding virtualizing FreeNAS. I will leave you to your horribly designed FreeNAS setup. I hope you don't put ANY important data on there.

Good luck.


I just clicked your video link....lmfao

 

[Artur]

https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...ative-for-those-seeking-virtualization.26095/

I did chew on that already and fully acknowledged KC1 and KC2. Especially C2 with "ZFS supports error detection and correction, but it requires multiple disk devices in a vdev to do so (I realize there's an edge case with copies= but let's keep this simple!). You cannot just use a single virtual disk, because doing so means that ZFS will not be able to correct errors, and you may lose data as a result."

Yes, I have two physically separated disks. And yes, FreeNAS guest is on another one, as my main storage.

As for the other part of KC2 with poor performance - I don't mind. All I need is to see that the freenas features are somehow working. As for the performance I don't give a damn.

Btw. I red also https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...ide-to-not-completely-losing-your-data.12714/ and apparently with intel cpu this bit is also covered.

 

[Artur]

You have obviously not read the stickies regarding virtualizing FreeNAS. I will leave you to your horribly designed FreeNAS setup. I hope you don't put ANY important data on there.

Good luck.


I just clicked your video link....lmfao

This wasn't my video for starters. I just replied to your lmfao-wise question about how I pass disks to my vm.

 

[pirateghost]

This wasn't my video for starters. I just replied to your lmfao-wise question about how I pass disks to my vm.

You aren't passing any disks. That's my point.

 

[Artur]

You aren't passing any disks. That's my point.

Aah, ok, I'm with you now. No, again I don't need to. That, what vm hypervisor is delivering for me at the moment on virtual disk basis should be just find for my tests. All I need is to see how good feature wise FreeNAS is. If the tests turn out just just fine then I'll consider "PASSING" any disks in a more production-looking like environment. I even maybe will setup ESXi with 6 separate disks and will allocate these to FreeNAS only in a real passthrough mode or whatever. I hope it's clear now why I have took this "horribly designed FreeNAS setup". If I then during my tests crash my vmware setup just becasue of FreeNAS "jumped out of the box" and creashed the whole storage on it due to whatever ZFS feature, I don't care. Please don't get be wrong, but all I need is to see what has been done in FreeNAS since my last contact with it which was somewhere around 10 years ago.

 

[pirateghost]

Aah, ok, I'm with you now. No, again I don't need to. That, what vm hypervisor is delivering for me at the moment on virtual disk basis should be just find for my tests. All I need is to see how good feature wise FreeNAS is. If the tests turn out just just fine then I'll consider "PASSING" any disks in a more production-looking like environment. I even maybe will setup ESXi with 6 separate disks and will allocate these to FreeNAS only in a real passthrough mode or whatever. I hope it's clear now why I have took this "horribly designed FreeNAS setup". If I then during my tests crash my vmware setup just becasue of FreeNAS "jumped out of the box" and creashed the whole storage on it due to whatever ZFS feature, I don't care. Please don't get be wrong, but all I need is to see what has been done in FreeNAS since my last contact with it which was somewhere around 10 years ago.

You never indicated that this system was for testing purposes only.

I can tell you though, the FreeNAS that you see today isn't even the same lineage as that of 10 years ago. Only the name is the same.

 

[Artur]

You never indicated that this system was for testing purposes only.

I can tell you though, the FreeNAS that you see today isn't even the same lineage as that of 10 years ago. Only the name is the same.

By the look of it I haven't said straight away I set it up solely for testing purposes, indeed. Never mind. As for the difference between what we have now and what was there back then - I can only hope it's better now :)

Ok, I'm back at my desk. Let's see how good the jails are cooperating with the rest.
ps. Are there any step-by-step tutorials for jails in FreeNAS that you find reliable (FreeNAS 9.10)?

 

[pirateghost]

By the look of it I haven't said straight away I set it up solely for testing purposes, indeed. Never mind. As for the difference between what we have now and what was there back then - I can only hope it's better now :)

Ok, I'm back at my desk. Let's see how good the jails are cooperating with the rest.
ps. Are there any step-by-step tutorials for jails in FreeNAS that you find reliable (FreeNAS 9.10)?

Follow the documentation on setting up a jail with mounted storage, then whatever app you want to install inside the jail, follow any guide online for installing that app on FreeBSD.