10 Gig Networking Upgrade

[rogerh]

I don't know how to fix it but you can probably communicate over your 10GHz link by IP address, and let it remain confused about hostnames. Probably best not to maintain any simultaneous connections to the same share from the same computer. Now the experts can tell my my suggestion is stupid!

 

[Black Ninja]

You are right I can let it stay confused, but I am sure it's a simple fix if anybody is willing to tell how.

I am not sure how to keep them separate since Freenas is also on a 1Gb subnet with the rest of 1Gb clients and the desktop with 10Gb nic is also part of 1Gb network where internet and rest of 1Gb clients are.

 

[Black Ninja]

I think when someone suggest some good idea like this one ( direct connect 10Gb nic) should have the courtesy to tell help how to set it up properly.

This is like buying all ingredients base on someones recommendation "How to make nice pudding" , who neglected to tell you the recipe at the end. That's how I am with my 2 x10Gb nics direct connect. I am planing to do new clean reinstall on my freenas for few days now, but wanted to finish testing how to setup 1gb and 10Gb to co exist before format everything. But unfortunately I can't find help so I am sitting and waiting for info before reinstalling.

By the way when you mention accessing both 1Gb(by ip) and 10Gb(by ip) to freenas , I notice some huge delay( 5-7 seconds) sometimes before finding the freenas share. I am sure this has to do with host mane mismatch because after it finds the share then the message shows in the console.

 

[rogerh]

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I don't think there is a "right" answer.

 

[Black Ninja]

There is more than one way to skin a cat. I don't think there is a "right" answer.

At this moment we are trying to get at least one way to skin it. By searching the forum back and forward , people are asking about this since August 10 2011.

 

[rogerh]

Two examples: I have a second subnet (though not 10GHz) which is used only for replication and IPMI. As far as I know neither process need know nor care about hostnames, Netbios names, or indeed anything else happening on their hosts.

And an elegant solution recently put forward by one of the forum experts in a thread about your situation, (direct 10GHz between workstation and FreeNAS), which you ought to be able to find with a suitable search; have only one (10GHz) NIC on the workstation, on your usual subnet. Set up FreeNAS with a 1gige NIC and a 10GHz one and bridge the two so they have the same IP, also on your usual subnet. Then all transactions are unchanged IP-wise and everything should work as usual, except with a 10GHz pipe between workstation and FreeNAS. All other workstation traffic has to go through the bridge, but at very worst that is 10% of capacity, and the bridge apparently does not need much processing power. I think the bridge works in promiscuous mode and is completely transparent to subnet traffic not directly for the FreeNAS IP, but you would have to check that. Otherwise you might have to explain routing to the workstation. If you can find the thread I think it had some useful hints on how to set up the bridge.

Edit:
https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...0gb-10gb-1gb-setup-without-10gb-switch.25259/

 

[Black Ninja]

Two examples: I have a second subnet (though not 10GHz) which is used only for replication and IPMI. As far as I know neither process need know nor care about hostnames, Netbios names, or indeed anything else happening on their hosts.

And an elegant solution recently put forward by one of the forum experts in a thread about your situation, (direct 10GHz between workstation and FreeNAS), which you ought to be able to find with a suitable search; have only one (10GHz) NIC on the workstation, on your usual subnet. Set up FreeNAS with a 1gige NIC and a 10GHz one and bridge the two so they have the same IP, also on your usual subnet. Then all transactions are unchanged IP-wise and everything should work as usual, except with a 10GHz pipe between workstation and FreeNAS. All other workstation traffic has to go through the bridge, but at very worst that is 10% of capacity, and the bridge apparently does not need much processing power. I think the bridge works in promiscuous mode and is completely transparent to subnet traffic not directly for the FreeNAS IP, but you would have to check that. Otherwise you might have to explain routing to the workstation. If you can find the thread I think it had some useful hints on how to set up the bridge.

Edit:
https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...0gb-10gb-1gb-setup-without-10gb-switch.25259/

First I want to thank you for effort to help. I read that thread or anything I could find about it. In my case i dont even need to do bridge just to make then co exist on the same machine. I did exactly the same thing like the ibm guy did in that thread without the later part of making bridges and I also got to work. But there is more to it afterwards. Freenas is showing some hostname lookup error on the 10Gb interface in the console , which he didn't see or perhaps he is ignoring because it works for now. I am trying to find out what settings need to be done on a freenas side (after adding second 10gb interface with ip/subnet and nothing else) to make freenas function without error messages.

By the way stop calling 10Gb a 10Ghz , I would start thinking it's not a typo.:p

 

[cyberjock]

I think when someone suggest some good idea like this one ( direct connect 10Gb nic) should have the courtesy to tell help how to set it up properly.

So I told you what IPs you use? I told you how to setup a share? I told you every single teeny detail? No, I didn't. I told you how to do the basic stuff. If you can't handle some of it yourself, you shouldn't be here. Simple as that.

I am gonna bow out of this thread though, and probably delete some posts. This topic is totally derailed and we're talking about stuff that has nothing even remotely to do with 10Gb, aside from it affecting *YOUR* 10Gb setup. You could just as easily have this problem on 10Mb.

 

[Black Ninja]

So I told you what IPs you use? I told you how to setup a share? I told you every single teeny detail? No, I didn't. I told you how to do the basic stuff. If you can't handle some of it yourself, you shouldn't be here. Simple as that.

Very nice of you says that. Do you think if I didn't need help I would be here ? In fact who would be if didn't help ? Perhaps someone who knows more and just willing to help others , but it seems you are not trying to do either.

Honestly I don't think there is anything wrong with my setup since I barely touched the default settings, I think there is something else that need to be set on freenas side, but I don't know what as you know the manual is very limited and the forum is the next and only hope. If this was regarding Windows I can find more info I that I am able to read till the rest of my life, but freenas manual is very limited and the forum is the next and only hope.

This topic is totally derailed and we're talking about stuff that has nothing even remotely to do with 10Gb, aside from it affecting *YOUR* 10Gb setup.

I am just trying to find the proper way to setup 10Gb on freenas regardless of if it's "MY" setup or anybody. If that's not relevant to the topic I am speechless.

 

[zambanini]

it is basic ip knowledge you are missing, ninja. I fully agree with cyberjock, that this should not be discussed in this post.

 

[rogerh]

If you can find out how to satisfactorily run a Windows box with NICs on two separate subnets, I am sure it will be easy to apply said new-found knowledge to FreeNAS. The question is nothing to do with 10Gb, and little to do with FreeNAS. So I suggest you follow your own suggestion and do the research re Windows. I don't know the/an answer.

 

[Black Ninja]

it is basic ip knowledge you are missing, ninja. I fully agree with cyberjock, that this should not be discussed in this post.

I wonder how you determine that ? You have to know more than somebody to understand how much he knows. Unless I said something wrong that you can prove is wrong , don't assume you know more.

 

[Black Ninja]

If you can find out how to satisfactorily run a Windows box with NICs on two separate subnets, I am sure it will be easy to apply said new-found knowledge to FreeNAS. The question is nothing to do with 10Gb, and little to do with FreeNAS. So I suggest you follow your own suggestion and do the research re Windows. I don't know the/an answer.

Yes of course I can get to work in Windows , and it's working in Freenas too, but it need little more tuning to stop getting these messages which I don't wont to ignore only because it's working. It could be a bug in Freenas , I did came across some inconsistencies in the past while learning freenas.

 

[rogerh]

If it were working properly we wouldn't be having this conversation. You've come across a basic limitation of various protocols working across two subnets. Not a bug. (Though there may be bugs as well.)

 

[Black Ninja]

If it were working properly we wouldn't be having this conversation. You've come across a basic limitation of various protocols working across two subnets. Not a bug. (Though there may be bugs as well.)

Perhaps you a right. But anything we can learn from each other is worth talking about. Example: You don't call it 10Ghz anymore, isn't that positive outcome.:p

 

[zambanini]

I do not need to assume ninja, I see your postings. anyway, useless OT.

 

[Black Ninja]

I do not need to assume ninja, I see your postings. anyway, useless OT.

Well if you know better , tell me where I am wrong and we can discussed it , but it seem you are just trolling and I will ignore you from now on.