Does freenas 8.3 support apple time machine backup over afp in yosemite 10.10?

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Does freenas 8.3 support apple time machine backup over afp in yosemite 10.10?

If so is there anything special i need to do , if not does 9,x support it?
 

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9.2.1.9 works fine, as should 9.3 and most 9.2s.

8.3 is rather old... If you're not running it, it's not a good place to start. If you are running it, just try it out and see if it works.
 

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9.2.1.9 works fine, as should 9.3 and most 9.2s.

8.3 is rather old... If you're not running it, it's not a good place to start. If you are running it, just try it out and see if it works.

Yeah i already have 8.3 basically I have set up for a small business and a user wants to upgrade to OS X 10.10 but im afraid it will break the backup.

How difficult is it to upgrade to 9.x from 8.3 . The biggest problem I saw was that i read 9.x only supports ZFS drives and when i setup my 8.3 box i made them ufs disks with mirroring. I dont mind to change them but if its going to be a risky /lengthy upgrade im afraid to touch it.
 

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9.2 supports UFS, 9.3 doesn't.

Permissions may need work, since Samba 4 introduced a few big changes.

Cyberjock has a recommended upgrade path, see if you can find it. It minimizes config problems.
 

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9.2 supports UFS, 9.3 doesn't.

Permissions may need work, since Samba 4 introduced a few big changes.

Cyberjock has a recommended upgrade path, see if you can find it. It minimizes config problems.

Sorry i was unable to find that post could you link it please if you have it by any chance?

Thanks
 

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Sorry i was unable to find that post could you link it please if you have it by any chance?

Thanks

No, I don't have a link and I'm not finding it. Let's ask him.

Hey, @cyberjock - what's the upgrade sequence you typically suggest for folks on 8.3?
 

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For 8.3 I'd go to 8.3.1, 9.1.1, 9.2.0, 9.2.1.9, then 9.3. Don't skip as you can have configuration issues either now or in the future. It's just not worth the risk not to skip releases. :P
 

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For 8.3 I'd go to 8.3.1, 9.1.1, 9.2.0, 9.2.1.9, then 9.3. Don't skip as you can have configuration issues either now or in the future. It's just not worth the risk not to skip releases. :p

thanks i will try this. Though i wonder what will happen to my ufs drives once I move to 9.3 .
 

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It will become ZFS. ;)

I'd also recommend you save each config file before you do the next step so that if a step goes sideways you aren't having to go back to 8.3.

Just remember this thumbrule, I always wait at least 20 minutes from the time I upload an update file to check the system. It has to do quite a bit of work and for most people 20 minutes is enough time to expect it to come back up.

And since I just thought of this let me remind you that jails/plugins from 8.x are not compatible with 9.x. You should delete your jails before upgrading to 9.x, then recreate them as necessary once you are on 9.3. :)
 

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It will become ZFS. ;)

I'd also recommend you save each config file before you do the next step so that if a step goes sideways you aren't having to go back to 8.3.

Just remember this thumbrule, I always wait at least 20 minutes from the time I upload an update file to check the system. It has to do quite a bit of work and for most people 20 minutes is enough time to expect it to come back up.

And since I just thought of this let me remind you that jails/plugins from 8.x are not compatible with 9.x. You should delete your jails before upgrading to 9.x, then recreate them as necessary once you are on 9.3. :)

Thanks , I am in process. I am at 9.1.1 so far. When you say it will become ZFS , will it migrate the volumes automagically?
 

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Umm... I think you are confused. Let me clarify

UFS support in FreeNAS 9.3 is totally dead. Gone. There is no UFS support at all. If your data is on UFS you shouldn't go past 9.2.1.9. Your data won't be accessible in 9.3 and there is no "upgrade" to convert UFS to ZFS. You'll have to make a pool and copy your data on 9.2.1.9 if you want to access it on 9.3.

FreeNAS 9.3 has also changed the boot device from UFS to ZFS and from MBR to GPT. This conversion is done by simply overwriting the old boot device with the new boot info. So there is no true conversion in the practical sense.
 

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Umm... I think you are confused. Let me clarify

UFS support in FreeNAS 9.3 is totally dead. Gone. There is no UFS support at all. If your data is on UFS you shouldn't go past 9.2.1.9. Your data won't be accessible in 9.3 and there is no "upgrade" to convert UFS to ZFS. You'll have to make a pool and copy your data on 9.2.1.9 if you want to access it on 9.3.

FreeNAS 9.3 has also changed the boot device from UFS to ZFS and from MBR to GPT. This conversion is done by simply overwriting the old boot device with the new boot info. So there is no true conversion in the practical sense.

Haha thanks ok im glad i read this before i upgraded to 9.3 and then cried myself to sleep tonight at the can of worms i would have opened for myself. I have never worked with ZFS and based on a couple mins of googling (based on what you said) looks like ill have to add the new zfs pools and then basically rsync my data over from the old drives to the new in 9.2.1.9 before biting the 9.3 bullet.

I think the main reason i avoided ZFS in the first place was because i read that it likes a lot of memory in proportion to how much disk space you have on the freenas machine, which UFS didnt. Has this requirement changed? I think unless that changed I may be stuck on 9.2 until I can buy a much more powerful machine. My machine has 4x 3TB disks , but only 4GB ram.
 

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Well, if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't upgrade. The minimum for ZFS is 8GB of RAM, which is all that 9.3 has. So in essence the new minimum is 8GB of RAM regardless of anything.
 
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