Regular home NAS: FD Node 304, Mini-ITX, X11SCL-iF, i3-9100F

Antoshka

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to replace my QNAP TS-253Be by a custom NAS.
Main routine: Plex server (average movie is 60Gb), media storage (photos, music, docs), backups and probably light VM with a DB (just a sandbox, not a prod instance). There are only 2 users.

I'm thinking about current setup:
  1. Case: Fractal Design Node 304
  2. Motherboard: Mini-ITX Supermicro X11SCL-iF
  3. CPU: Intel i3-9100F
  4. RAM:16Gb UDIMM x2
  5. Power Supply: EVGA 500 W1
  6. Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x10Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive)
  7. (Optional) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i
  8. (Optional) HBA Card: LSI SAS 9207-8i
I'd ask to review this config and answer a few questions:
  1. May I use nonECC memory for Supermicro X11SCL-iF + i3-9100F? I've heard that it's possible to use nonECC memory with i3, and it's impossible with Xeon, is it true? I just don't want to spend more money on memory than CPU+Motherboard cost.
  2. I have an extra Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD and I planned to use it as OS drive, is it ok?
  3. Market provides a lot of pretty cheap 128Gb NVMe, should I buy one?
  4. Will be this CPU enough for me? (Only one 4K transcoding is possible in my cases)
  5. Should I expect that I can lose some functionality in comparison with QNAP?
  6. Did I miss something?

Thank you in advance.
 

Antoshka

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Hey,

As usual you're finding something necessary/interesting only after already posted message:)

I've spent additional 14 hours on forum(s), youtube, ebay and now I've three others configurations:
Option #1
1) Case: Fractal Design Node 804 (yes, I got that 304 brings a pain with cable management and air flows)
2) Motherboard: Supermicro X11SCL-F
3) CPU: Intel i3-9100F
4) RAM: 16Gb UDIMM x2 (ECC or nonECC)
5) Power Supply: Corsair CX550M
6) Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x10Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive)
7) (Optional) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i
8) (Optional) HBA Card: LSI SAS 9207-8i

Option #2
1) Case: Fractal Design Node 804
2) Motherboard: Supermicro X11SSH-F
3) CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1270 v5
4) RAM: 16Gb ECC UDIMM x2
5) Power Supply: Corsair CX550M
6) Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x10Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive)
7) (Optional) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i
8) (Optional) HBA Card: LSI SAS 9207-8i (there are 8 SATA ports on motherboard)


Option #3
1) Case: Fractal Design Node 804
2) Motherboard: Supermicro X10SLL-F
3) CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1271 v3
4) RAM: 8Gb ECC UDIMM x4
5) Power Supply: Corsair CX550M
6) Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x10Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive)
7) (Optional) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i
8) (Optional or Mandatory?) HBA Card: LSI SAS 9207-8i (only 2 SATA3 ports...)

Option #1 - most expensive, less powerfull according PassMark, most fresh;
Option #2 - mid expensive, mid powerfull according PassMark, mid fresh;
Option #3 - less expensive, most powerfull according PassMark, less fresh.

I'd really appreciate to any thoughts/comments/suggestions....

Thank you.
 

Antoshka

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Hello,

It looks more like a monologue, but I'll proceed and probably this info would be helpful to someone.

I've ordered the following configuration:
1) Case: Fractal Design Node 804 (newegg) - 134$
2) Motherboard: Supermicro X10SLL-F
3) CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1271 v3
4) RAM: 8Gb ECC UDIMM 1600mhz x4 (ebay combo) - 314$
5) Power Supply: Corsair CX450 (newegg) - 70$
6) Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x10Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive), Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD (not sure now for what it will be used) - I've them already
7) (Optional) CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster V4 GTS - I've it already from old PC
8) SATA Cables: 6 Pack 90 Degree Right-Angle SATA III Cable (amazon) - 8$
9) SATA Power Cables (as a workaround for 3.3V SATA drives): 3-Pack 4 Pin Molex to Dual SATA Power Y-Cable (amazon) - 9$

Total: 537$ (without drives)

Probably I'll buy 1-2 SSD drives from ebay for OS or for document storage.

Also I'm going to create a build report.

Thank you.
 

Antoshka

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Hi,

It's my daily update;)
A few SSD for OS and L2ARC were ordered, so now the configuration is the following (I hope it's a final version and I don't need anything else):
1) Case: Fractal Design Node 804 (newegg) - 134$
2) Motherboard: Supermicro X10SLL-F
3) CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1271 v3
4) CPU Cooler: Intel heatsink from combo OR CoolerMaster V4 GTS (Optional) - I've it already from old PC
5) RAM: 8 Gb ECC UDIMM 1600mhz x4 = 32 Gb (ebay combo) - 314$
5) Power Supply: Corsair CX450 (newegg) - 70$
6) SAS HBA: LSI 9207-8i PCI-E 3.0 (ebay) - 55$
7) SAS Cable: Mini SAS 36Pin (SFF-8087) Male to 4 SATA 7Pin Female Cable x2 (amazon) - 19$
8) SATA Cables: 6 Pack 90 Degree Right-Angle SATA III Cable (amazon) - 8$
9) SATA Power Cables (as a workaround for 3.3V SATA drives): 3-Pack 4 Pin Molex to Dual SATA Power Y-Cable (amazon) - 9$
10) SSD OS: Intel DC S3700 100Gb x 2 (ebay) - 50$
11) SSD L2ARC: Intel DC S3700 400GB (ebay) - 93$
12) SSD VM/Jail: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB - I've it already from old PC
13) HDD Storage: Couple of WD RED drives (2x12Tb, 1x8Tb - from my current NAS and External drive)

Total: 752$ (without HDD)

I think to order 2 more 12 Tb Easystore WD (to have a raidz), but I need to wait until a deal on them.

Thanks!
 

SweetAndLow

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Don't bother with the l2arc, wait until you actually run your system and see if read performance is ok.
 

Antoshka

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Oh, I've ordered already an Intel DC S3700 400GB...

Anyway thank you for the tips!
 

SweetAndLow

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Oh, I've ordered already an Intel DC S3700 400GB...

Anyway thank you for the tips!
Yeah most people do not need a slog or l2arc device. You can look at zfs-stats -A and your cache hit ratio to see if you would benefit from a l2arc ssd.

Here is what mine looks like with 128GB of memory.
Code:
ARC Efficiency
        Cache Access Total:                     1040273500
        Cache Hit Ratio:                94.62%  984347643
        Cache Miss Ratio:               5.37%   55925857
        Actual Hit Ratio:               94.46%  982696393
 
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