NEW BUILD - Please Help!

[france1967]

Hello everyone!

First of all i'm a total noob :) i currently own since 1 year a qnap 419 (atom+0.5 gb ram) 4x3 tb wd red for 24/7 flac music/HD video +2 streams, pc's mac and linux backups and data cloud.
In some cases it's REALLY SLOW, thereafter i'm going to sell it w/o disks and i want to definitively change the system in order to have a +5 years proof machine.
After had a lot of reading ( I'm not a computer expert and I don't speak english so well therefore reading this forum is not always easy for me, so please don't blame me if I ask already answered questions) i made my mind in this way:

case: cooler master silencio 650 with noctua fans (already have it)
psu: corsair rm650 gold (already have it)
cpu cooler: noctua NH-U12S (already have it)
HDD raidz2 6x3tb red (4 of them already have it)
mobo: supermicro X10SL7-F
cpu: xeon e3 1230 v3 or 1241 v3 ???
ram: ???

The questions are:

1) cpu: in order to use xeon 1241, that probably could be more future proof at the cost difference of 20 euros (1% of total cost), i have to upgrade bios? In that case, can i start up the board with a g3220 pentium, upgrade bios and then switch to the xeon? Bios upgrade on that kind of board is hassle free or it's risky?

2) ram: here in italy is very hard to find supermicro reccomended hynix or samsung memory whereas i can find kingstone. In order to have 32 gb can i use 4 x kvr16e11/8? Or else I must use only kvr16e11s8/4kf (16 gb). Still for future proof I would like to have 32 gb, are 16 gb really enough? wich other brand i can use in order to have 32 gb?

3) flashing to IT mode. Is that mandatory? someone could please link me a detailed child-proof step by step instruction for how to do that on this board?

Other suggestions?

Thanks to all those who participate in the discussion

Francesco

 

[Ericloewe]

Hello everyone!

First of all i'm a total noob :) i currently own since 1 year a qnap 419 (atom+0.5 gb ram) 4x3 tb wd red for 24/7 flac music/HD video +2 streams, pc's mac and linux backups and data cloud.
In some cases it's REALLY SLOW, thereafter i'm going to sell it w/o disks and i want to definitively change the system in order to have a +5 years proof machine.
After had a lot of reading ( I'm not a computer expert and I don't speak english so well therefore reading this forum is not always easy for me, so please don't blame me if I ask already answered questions) i made my mind in this way:

case: cooler master silencio 650 with noctua fans (already have it)
psu: corsair rm650 gold (already have it)
cpu cooler: noctua NH-U12S (already have it)
HDD raidz2 6x3tb red (4 of them already have it)
mobo: supermicro X10SL7-F
cpu: xeon e3 1230 v3 or 1241 v3 ???
ram: ???

The questions are:

1) cpu: in order to use xeon 1241, that probably could be more future proof at the cost difference of 20 euros (1% of total cost), i have to upgrade bios? In that case, can i start up the board with a g3220 pentium, upgrade bios and then switch to the xeon? Bios upgrade on that kind of board is hassle free or it's risky?

2) ram: here in italy is very hard to find supermicro reccomended hynix or samsung memory whereas i can find kingstone. In order to have 32 gb can i use 4 x kvr16e11/8? Or else I must use only kvr16e11s8/4kf (16 gb). Still for future proof I would like to have 32 gb, are 16 gb really enough? wich other brand i can use in order to have 32 gb?

3) flashing to IT mode. Is that mandatory? someone could please link me a detailed child-proof step by step instruction for how to do that on this board?

Other suggestions?

Thanks to all those who participate in the discussion

Francesco

Ok, from the top:

The CPU won't make that much of a difference. If you'd like to take the chance and the motherboard comes with an old BIOS version, you can definitely use a cheap processor to update the BIOS. If you don't have the G3220 lying around, the G1820 is even cheaper.

Fortunately for you, there's also Crucial/Micron.

Crucial (2 x 8GB): CT2KIT102472BD160B or CT4486353 (both are the same product)
Crucial (1 x 8GB): CT102472BD160B or CT4486347

Micron (single DIMM, as reported by memtest86+ and listed at Supermicro's website): MT18KSF1G72AZ-1G6E1

All the above are the same DIMMs. I'm using them and can confirm this. You can get the Crucial model numbers directly from them or from a variety of websites. Their prices are reasonable and they guarantee compatibility with Supermicro X10s.

If you want to use an LSI2008/2308 controller, you'll absolutely need IT mode.

However, you don't need to use one for just 6 drives. If you plan to upgrade in the very near future, the X10SL7-F is a good choice. If not, I recommend one of the cheaper boards, like the X10SLM+-F - if needed, you can later buy an M1015 or similar controller.

https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...g-the-lsi2308-on-an-x9srh-7f-to-it-mode.1734/

This is one guide, but there are more (it's a different motherboard but the same controller). Don't bother flashing the card's boot ROM, as it's not needed.

 

[france1967]

Hi Ericloewe

thanks for the reply! Very enlightening

I'm on the crucial site, and for the x10sl7 they reccomend these 2x8 kits:
- CT4484985 16GB kit (8GBx2) DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered ECC 1.5V 1024Meg x 72
- CT4484984 16GB kit (8GBx2) DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered ECC 1.35V 1024Meg x 72
- CT4484988 16GB kit (8GBx2) DDR3 PC3-14900 Unbuffered ECC 1.5V 1024Meg x 72
Which is the right one?

Regarding the instructions for flashing in IT mode that you linked me, what is "the current SAS id"? where i can find it?
When you say "Don't bother flashing the card's boot ROM, as it's not needed" which part of that instructions i have to skip?

Actually i'm thinking about more space, ok 6x3tb, next step? 7? 8? which is the sweet spot for these disks in raidz2?

thanks in advance!

 

[Ericloewe]

You'll want the 1.35V DIMMs, since they're the ones tested by Supermicro.

The SAS ID should be on a sticker on the board.

We've recently concluded that with recent changes, the effect of sweet spots is much less noticeable than before, so feel free to do 8 drive RAIDZ2s.
However, it may be cheaper to just buy larger drives, since you can spare the extra controller.

 

[france1967]

ok i'll see. thank you very much eric