Crash when copying files

[Andy Graves]

Hi Everyone,

I loose access to FreeNAS when copying files
Have to reboot to get access.

Please help.

Thanks

Andy

 

[ethereal]

if you need some help you need to provide a little more information - check out the posting rules.
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/forum-rules.22553/

you are more likely to get help if you give more information

you certainly need:

* FreeNAS version (ex. “FreeNAS 9.2.1.6-Release 64-bit”)

* Hardware:

1. * Motherboard (Model)
2. * CPU (Model)
3. * RAM Size (in GB and model)
4. Hard Drives (Model), Quantity, and RAIDZ configuration
5. Add-On cards
6. For network connectivity, include details on your network hardware/configuration.

 

[dlavigne]

Also, note that Realtek drivers are terrible. Try using a recommended NIC.

 

[Andy Graves]

Hi Hope this is enough below

Build FreeNAS-9.3-STABLE-201512121950
Platform AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core Processor
Memory 15843MB 2 x Crucial 8GB DDR3 CL9 12800 Sport XT
Motherboard: 78LMT-S2 - no add ons

 

[depasseg]

It looks like your network card is hanging up. I'd google for re0 (realtek?) and freebsd hang to see if there is anything that can be done. Otherwise, pickup a cheap intel nic and be off to the races.

 

[Andy Graves]

The strange thing is it works fine generally, even full time machine 300GB backups are fine. Problem is when moving lots of files "internally" within FreeNAS.
I purchased the motherboard and RAM specially for FreeNAS

 

[pirateghost]

The strange thing is it works fine generally, even full time machine 300GB backups are fine. Problem is when moving lots of files "internally" within FreeNAS.
I purchased the motherboard and RAM specially for FreeNAS

You bought a desktop grade board specifically for Freenas? Had you seen the hardware recommendations or were you just hoping it would be OK? I don't know of anyone who has gone through the trouble of verifying that board works 100% with freenas, so you might be the guinea pig here.

 

[gpsguy]

As @depasseg suggested get an Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC. It costs about $30 USD.

There are a few users on the forum using a similar CPU, but use a different mobo and ECC RAM. I think most have had to upgrade to an Intel NIC to resolve issues with the onboard Realtek.


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[Andy Graves]

You bought a desktop grade board specifically for Freenas? Had you seen the hardware recommendations or were you just hoping it would be OK? I don't know of anyone who has gone through the trouble of verifying that board works 100% with freenas, so you might be the guinea pig here.

The mother board was well priced and fitted the recommendation (ok it is AMD - but is that the issue?)

• Multicore 64-bit* processor (Intel strongly recommended)
• 8GB* Boot Drive (USB Flash Drive suffices)
• 8GB* RAM
• At least 1 direct attached disk (Hardware RAID strongly discouraged)
• One physical network port

 

[pirateghost]

The mother board was well priced and fitted the recommendation (ok it is AMD - but is that the issue?)

• Multicore 64-bit* processor (Intel strongly recommended)
• 8GB* Boot Drive (USB Flash Drive suffices)
• 8GB* RAM
• At least 1 direct attached disk (Hardware RAID strongly discouraged)
• One physical network port

Can you link me where you see this hardware recommendation? The hardware recommendations thread on the forums says something way different.

Honestly, my first thought is that it's the NIC.

 

[gpsguy]

www.freenas.org/hardware-requirements/



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[pirateghost]

www.freenas.org/hardware-requirements/



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Thanks. I will get a ticket in to change that. We need iXSystems to back what is recommended in the forums. I was trying to get around to this yesterday, but didn't have time.

 

[depasseg]

Well then, doesn't this become an iXSystems support issue? ;-)

 

[pirateghost]

Well then, doesn't this become an iXSystems support issue? ;-)

That's hilarious

 

[JDCynical]

Thanks. I will get a ticket in to change that. We need iXSystems to back what is recommended in the forums. I was trying to get around to this yesterday, but didn't have time.

(Devils advocate mode on)
Actually...

Minimum Hardware Requirements:
These specifications will suffice to get a small FreeNAS install running reliably with moderate performance for a few users.

• Multicore 64-bit* processor (Intel strongly recommended)
• 8GB* Boot Drive (USB Flash Drive suffices)
• 8GB* RAM
• At least 1 direct attached disk (Hardware RAID strongly discouraged)
• One physical network port

That would be the absolute minimum. Following that is the Reccomended minimum requirements, which includes such things as 16 gigs of ECC RAM.

I don't agree with it myself, as I would consider ECC a requirement due to the assumptions and design of the underlying hardware, but it is technically correct as it reads right now.

 

[Andy Graves]

My value hardware was purchased to meet the minimum hardware requirement. If Reatek ethernet is not compatible with FreeNAS it would have been really useful it it was stated in the minimum requirements.
I have will ask a friend to buy and send and import a Intel NIC as they are like rocking horse **** over here.
Its also a real grind that the system partially works, hangs, requires rebooting. It would be better if it did not support Realtek at all, as I have been battling to get the system stable for weeks...

 

[anodos]

Thanks. I will get a ticket in to change that. We need iXSystems to back what is recommended in the forums. I was trying to get around to this yesterday, but didn't have time.

Honestly, that page is about 1,000 times better than the one it replaced, which stated that the minimum RAM requirement was 4GB. Both pages tacitly acknowledge that FreeNAS is an OS, which is pretty impressive for something coming from marketing.

They should just link to the relevant portion of the freenas docs.

 

[anodos]

My value hardware was purchased to meet the minimum hardware requirement. If Reatek ethernet is not compatible with FreeNAS it would have been really useful it it was stated in the minimum requirements.
I have will ask a friend to buy and send and import a Intel NIC as they are like rocking horse **** over here.
Its also a real grind that the system partially works, hangs, requires rebooting. It would be better if it did not support Realtek at all, as I have been battling to get the system stable for weeks...

It's not necessarily a freebsd thing, I'm pretty sure you can't buy a server from an OEM with realtek NICs.

The problem with desktop motherboards is that they are very inconsistent in terms of quality. It seems like the controls are (1) does it POST? (2) does Windows run stable-ish? Anything beyond this is questionable. I rarely work with desktop / laptop computers. Last year I saw 3 desktop mobos on which you couldn't disable secureboot. The button was there in UEFI, but it didn't work. In theory, Realtek NICs shouldn't make your server crash, but with desktop hardware anything is possible. I have some new desktop mobos that they somehow screwed up PXE booting.

 

[Andy Graves]

"FreeNAS is an operating system that can be installed on virtually any hardware platform to share computer data storage over a computer network."
Really?

 

[pirateghost]

"FreeNAS is an operating system that can be installed on virtually any hardware platform to share computer data storage over a computer network."
Really?

Exactly. This is why we need changes to the website.