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thisguycody

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Hey everybody. New here and new to servers in general. Appreciate the help in advanced.

-This turned into a much longer post than expected. Here's the cliff notes.-
TLDR: Cheap as possible entry level FreeNAS build for a hobbyist camera guy (photo/video files) and for me to learn more about servers etc.


Back story:
I was at work the other day and came across an old computer that was collecting dust. It was used to record security camera footage. I had been looking at prepackaged NAS solutions already but this computer gave me the idea to look at using it as a server since it wouldn't cost much to throw some hard drives in it and flash some software. Again no knowledge about these things so started doing my homework. Long story short, I pulled it apart to clean and inspect it, and it was super outdated and nothing in it would feasibly get me up to freenas specs without spending just as much money as a fresh build with significantly higher specs.

My needs:
I'm looking to build a home server to store files and be able to access them from anywhere when needed. I do some photo/video work on the side with local musicians and don't make much money from it, it's more of a hobby (hence having a tight budget). However, I'd like to be able to pull up files from anywhere in the event that someone I've worked with needs a file and I'm not home or if I want to make a video and need some old footage and am away from the house.

Beyond that, I'd like to work with the files that are on it directly in Adobe Premiere (while at home), but if that's going to cost significantly more money to achieve, I'm perfectly content copying files I need from the NAS to my tower to work with when I need them and the NAS serving as an always accessible cold storage. Currently, I'm using an older 6tb external drive attached to my tower that's a little too sluggish for Premiere, but works fine as long term storage, but don't like taking it with me on longer trips in the event I need something off of it. Ideally, When everything is said and done, I can connect that external drive to the NAS to run a regular backup for redundancy.

Finally, I'm interested in learning more about networking and storage and all the things around building a NAS anyways, so why not?

Having said all that and hopefully giving you an idea of what I'm after, here's my build list and why I have each part selected, with an amazon link.

The main goal is price. Trying to do this for as little as possible, but I don't mind spending a small amount more if I can see significant improvements.


-PARTS-

Already have:

Power Supply: In-Win Power Supply IP-P300BN1-0 H 300W SFX
Robbed this from the security camera computer mentioned above...making it FREE

SSD for OS: Intel 320 Series 40 GB SATA 2.5-Inch Solid-State Drive

Same as above. FREE

Memory: (TWO 2x )HyperX Kingston Technology Fury 2666MHz DDR4 Non-ECC CL15 DIMM 8 DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) HX426C15FB/8

While I'm aware ECC is the preferred choice, I have this in my closet from upgrading the RAM in my tower recently and therefore eliminates cost. The link is for a single 8gb stick, but I have two for 16gb FREE


Need

Processor: Intel Core i5-3470 Quad-Core Processor 3.2 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53470
Not married to this processor, but it's currently $85. I think B&H has an i3 9100f for $75 as well if that would be a better choice? Processor selection for FreeNas is a bit fuzzy to me. I also have a couple friends looking to see if they have an older unused desktop laying around with any kind of i-something processor in it I could rob to save some more cash.

Motherboard: Asus Intel 8th Gen DDR4 HDMI VGA Micro ATX Motherboards (Prime H310M-E R2.0)
Again, not married to this either, but it's intel and MicroATX which are both my preferences. About $55

Cooler: Cooler Master i71C RGB Intel only CPU Air Cooler w/ Anodized Black Aluminum Fins, Copper Insert, MF120 RGB Fan, Intel LGA1151
It's only $20.

HDDs: (TWO 2x) Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 5900 RPM 64MB Cache for RAID Network Attached Storage (ST4000VNZ08/VN008)
Pretty self explanatory I think. $220

Case: Montech Flyer- Black/Micro ATX, Mini-ITX/Pre-Installed 2 Fans/High-Airflow/Computer Gaming Case/Hairline Surface Front Panel/RGB LED Shinning Strip/Three Versions Lighting Effects
I know there are a few cheaper options around $30 but I'm going to have to look at this thing regularly, so I'll spend an extra $20 for something I like.
 

Arwen

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Before you commit to FreeNAS, read up on both FreeNAS and ZFS. Some people have very specific requirements, and force their NAS to meet them. Somethings with FreeNAS or ZFS are just different enough that people can make mistakes. Like hardware RAID, or not setting up scrubs.
 

Yorick

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The main goal is price

So noted. File storage only, there should be an option here.

(TWO 2x) Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS

Nothing wrong with those. $220 for 4TB of usable storage, or $260 for 8TB of usable storage by shucking two WD Elements 8TB. Your call. Just whatever you do, don't shuck any WD below 8TB, you'll regret it. SMR and all that.


Asus Intel 8th Gen DDR4 HDMI VGA Micro ATX Motherboards (Prime H310M-E R2.0)

Intel Core i5-3470 Quad-Core Processor 3.2 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53470

Right, please don't scream at the screen: The processor socket and generation has to match the motherboard. You have an 8th/9th gen motherboard and a 3rd gen CPU.

So. For file storage only, how about:


With the memory being offered there, $120. Maybe you need a cooler. Bonus: It's proper server gear, SuperMicro with IPMI and ECC memory. IPMI is soooo nice. Drawback: It's used gear, and you may have the hassle of a DoA.

Other option: Stick with the motherboard you chose, put in an Intel Pentium G5400 for $60. Plenty of power for file serving. And new gear, not some eBay castoff.
You may not need that CoolerMaster thing, the stock cooler on the Pentium should be fine.

Edited: Power supply is fine. 300W, figure 25-30W startup draw from each HDD, leaves you 240W for the rest of the system. Works. If you ever go to 4 drives, you'd be pushing it - plan for a PSU upgrade if you ever add a second mirror vdev.
 
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thisguycody

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Thanks for the replies so far. I caught the processor/motherboard mismatch the other day but haven't had time to do much homework and updating on this the last few days. Looking into ZFS.

I'm asking around at work to see if there are any extra computers laying around that are depreciated and collecting dust that I might could swipe an i3/5/7 from for free. Once I know if I can score a free processor and what gen it is, I'll be pretty dialed in I believe.

In the event I have to buy a processor, the G5400 with my selected motherboard puts me around $200 for the parts I still need (plus hard drives) which is feasible for me. Any better recommendations for an alternative, new motherboard around the same price? The Ethernet port/card/do-dad is intel which is part of why I picked it. I read that that's preferred. Other than that, price was the only other contributing factor.

I'm learning!
 

BR14

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Keep in mind that generally the i3 series support ECC memory and can be used with server board such as SuperMicro, while i5/i7 do not.
Of course, you should check the specs for the specific model ( I wish Intel marketing matched their engineering.) For a file server i3 CPU SHOULD be sufficient.
You can get new or used older SuperMicro board on ebay to match the CPU. Remember, server boards and memory are designed for long life and thus are lower risk (with the exception of Avoton c2xxx fiasco.) If you have to buy everything, consider used motherboard/CPU/memory combo - less chance of compatibility problems.
 
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