Accessing Data on each drive?????

[Irvin Daniel]

Hello

Most likely a stupid question but have to ask not sure what to do....

I have alot of data on my NAS. running 9.1 and every time I try to down load it to another machine my nas crashes and reboots. I am using ZFS Raidz set up. I am trying to make a back up of all my data. Is it possible to access each drive individually since its software Raid.... Meaning can I plug each drive into my windows machine and retrieve the data that way?

thanks for any assistance.

 

[cyberjock]

Nope. ZFS and UFS isn't supported on Windows.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

another question if I rebuild the usb I can just import the zfs volume correct and lose my data? I am running 9.1 and will rebuild at 9.2.

 

[cyberjock]

Rebuild the USB... what? Rebuild the FreeNAS boot media? You're going to need to clarify what you are trying to say.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

Sorry I was talking about the boot media boot i figured that out .

How could I get an error report from freenas? Every time I try to download multiple files from the nas it reboots. So is there to get a crash report that can tell me if its a hardware problem or a software problem? Or exactly what the problem is.

Thank you by the way for responding to my questions you always help me when I have a problem and I am thankful....

 

[cyberjock]

Depending on your FreeNAS version you need to create a .system dataset or a .syslog dataset. The logs will be saved there when it crashes. If it's crashing and requiring you to reboot the machine manually then it could be a hardware or software problem. But, if it's spontaneously rebooting itself without user interaction that's almost always a hardware problem. You haven't provided any hardware specs for your server so I can't really tell you if your machine meets minimum requirements or if there's any obvious problems.

 

[gpsguy]

Please read the forum rules, especially rule #3. As cyberjock said, we don't know anything about your hardware, nor do we know if you are running the x86 or x64 version of FreeNAS.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

ok

Freenas 9.2.1.3 release x64
Motherboard: Tyan Thunder k8s/k8s-d Pro (Server board)
2x Dual Core AMD opteron (tm) processor 27
16GB DDR ECC Memory
11x 2TB drives running ZFS (but only 10 drive are active in raid left spare drive for replacement)
3ware raid controller card set as JBOD since zfs is controlling the raid settings.

I am currently running some memory test on the memory stick to see if that is the problem so far no errors on 3 passes. using memtest86+.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

ok just saw the rules will complete and get back to you once I complete the memory test.
thanks.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

ok here goes I hope I posted this correctly.

I just finish the memory test no errors after 11 passes. I ran the other test in the rules but not sure how to read the results. No sure what are errors. is there other test I can run?

Problem: Nas reboot randomly when trying to download multiple files.

system as followed:

Freenas 9.2.1.3 release x64
Motherboard: Tyan Thunder k8s/k8s-d Pro (Server board)
2x Dual Core AMD opteron (tm) processor 27
16GB DDR ECC Memory
11x 2TB drives running ZFS (but only 10 drive are active in raid left spare drive for replacement)
3ware raid controller card set as JBOD since zfs is controlling the raid settings.
using about 8.2TB of data right now.







this is really long but here goes:

PCICONF:

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PCICONF:
 
pcib1@pci0:0:6:0:       class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x74601022 rev=0x07 hdr=0x01                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 PCI'                                                                                                     
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = PCI-PCI                                                                                                            
isab0@pci0:0:7:0:       class=0x060100 card=0x74681022 chip=0x74681022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 LPC'                                                                                                     
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = PCI-ISA                                                                                                            
atapci2@pci0:0:7:1:     class=0x01018a card=0x74691022 chip=0x74691022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 IDE'                                                                                                     
    class      = mass storage                                                                                                       
    subclass   = ATA                                                                                                                
none0@pci0:0:7:2:       class=0x0c0500 card=0x746a1022 chip=0x746a1022 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 SMBus 2.0'                                                                                               
    class      = serial bus                                                                                                         
    subclass   = SMBus                                                                                                              
none1@pci0:0:7:3:       class=0x068000 card=0x746b1022 chip=0x746b1022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 ACPI'                                                                                                    
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
pcib2@pci0:0:10:0:      class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x74501022 rev=0x12 hdr=0x01                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge'                                                                                            
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = PCI-PCI                                                                                                            
ioapic0@pci0:0:10:1:    class=0x080010 card=0x36c01022 chip=0x74511022 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC'                                                                                            
    class      = base peripheral                                                                                                    
    subclass   = interrupt controller                                                                                               
pcib3@pci0:0:11:0:      class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x74501022 rev=0x12 hdr=0x01                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge'                                                                                            
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = PCI-PCI                                                                                                            
ioapic1@pci0:0:11:1:    class=0x080010 card=0x36c01022 chip=0x74511022 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC'                                                                                            
    class      = base peripheral                                                                                                    
    subclass   = interrupt controller    this could be an error..                                                                                              
hostb0@pci0:0:24:0:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration'                                                    
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb1@pci0:0:24:1:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'                                                                                
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb2@pci0:0:24:2:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'                                                                            
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb3@pci0:0:24:3:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'                                                                      
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb4@pci0:0:25:0:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration'                                                    
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb5@pci0:0:25:1:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'                                                                                
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb6@pci0:0:25:2:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'                                                                            
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
hostb7@pci0:0:25:3:     class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'                                                                      
    class      = bridge                                                                                                             
    subclass   = HOST-PCI                                                                                                           
ohci0@pci0:3:0:0:       class=0x0c0310 card=0x74641022 chip=0x74641022 rev=0x0b hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 USB OHCI'                                                                                                
    class      = serial bus                                                                                                         
    subclass   = USB                                                                                                                
ohci1@pci0:3:0:1:       class=0x0c0310 card=0x74641022 chip=0x74641022 rev=0x0b hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'                                                                                     
    device     = 'AMD-8111 USB OHCI'                                                                                                
    class      = serial bus                                                                                                         
    subclass   = USB                                                                                                                
atapci0@pci0:3:4:0:     class=0x010400 card=0x71141095 chip=0x31141095 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Silicon Image, Inc.'                                                                                              
    device     = 'SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller'
class      = mass storage                                                                                                       
    subclass   = RAID                                                                                                               
atapci1@pci0:3:5:0:     class=0x018000 card=0x31141095 chip=0x31141095 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Silicon Image, Inc.'                                                                                              
    device     = 'SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller'                                                               
    class      = mass storage                                                                                                       
vgapci0@pci0:3:6:0:     class=0x030000 card=0x80081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'ATI Technologies Inc'                                                                                             
    device     = 'Rage XL'                                                                                                          
    class      = display                                                                                                            
    subclass   = VGA                                                                                                                
fxp0@pci0:3:8:0:        class=0x020000 card=0x10408086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'                                                                                                
    device     = '82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100'                                                                                   
    class      = network                                                                                                            
    subclass   = ethernet                                                                                                           
bge0@pci0:2:9:0:        class=0x020000 card=0x164414e4 chip=0x164814e4 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Broadcom Corporation'                                                                                             
    device     = 'NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet'                                                                               
    class      = network                                                                                                            
    subclass   = ethernet                                                                                                           
bge1@pci0:2:9:1:        class=0x020000 card=0x164414e4 chip=0x164814e4 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = 'Broadcom Corporation'                                                                                             
    device     = 'NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet'                                                                               
    class      = network                                                                                                            
    subclass   = ethernet                                                                                                           
twa0@pci0:1:1:0:        class=0x010400 card=0x100213c1 chip=0x100213c1 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00                                            
    vendor     = '3ware Inc'                                                                                                        
    device     = '9xxx-series SATA-RAID'                                                                                            
    class      = mass storage                                                                                                       
    subclass   = RAID   

IFconfig:

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IFconfig:
 
fxp0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500                                                                     
        options=4219b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWTSO>                                  
        ether 00:e0:81:41:70:ae                                                                                                     
        nd6 options=9<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED>                                                                                        
        media: Ethernet autoselect (none)                                                                                           
        status: no carrier                                                                                                          
bge0: flags=8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500                                                                     
        options=8009b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,LINKSTATE>                                                  
        ether 00:e0:81:41:70:e4                                                                                                     
        nd6 options=9<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED>                                                                                        
        media: Ethernet autoselect                                                                                                  
bge1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500                                                          
        options=8009b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,LINKSTATE>                                                  
        ether 00:e0:81:41:70:e5                                                                                                     
        inet 10.0.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.10.255                                                                     
        nd6 options=9<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED>                                                                                        
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)                                                                        
        status: active                                                                                                              
ipfw0: flags=8801<UP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 65536                                                                          
        nd6 options=9<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED>                                                                                        
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384                                                                   
        options=600003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>                                                                       
        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128                                                                                                     
        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7                                                                                  
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000                                                                                           
        nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>   

Thank you for any assistance....

 

[Irvin Daniel]

the DMESG was to long to post...

 

[jgreco]

The S2882 was favored around here in the mid 2000's and isn't a bad board, but they're starting to age and as they do, parts seem to fall out of spec a bit. You may simply have a board that's too far "gone". This is merely hypothetical but I won't have time to answer this during the week so I am throwing this out there.

One practical suggestion would be to try removing one CPU (which also takes half the memory with it) and see if the problem gets any better. Also note that the Opteron performs poorly (panics etc) if it is not being cooled properly, and a dual CPU configuration is twice as hard. It is also very sensitive to power supply fluctuations, so trying with a known good power supply is a good idea.

 

[cyberjock]

Many AMDs are known to be nothing but problems. They just don't seem to work well with FreeBSD. No clue why, just something I've observed with many AMD setups. Tyan used to be very good years ago, so I would like to think that it should work. But, as jgreco touched on, old hardware doesn't always work right anymore.

To be honest, I expect your end solution to be to replace the motherboard, CPU, and RAM to get rid of the problem hardware. Systems that randomly reboot are basically impossible to troubleshoot since the problem is most likely not software related. And since the reboot usually means no logs with any errors are saved, you have no information to go on for troubleshooting.

 

[jgreco]

That's a little unfair to AMD; back in the day, Opteron was king. AMD failed to capitalize on their strategy and Intel overtook them, sadly. Also, Intel had a very powerful advantage in that they were releasing virtually entire computers worth of chips, while AMD was largely reliant on companies like Tyan to tie a system board together with components from various companies; the S2882UG3NR for example had an Adaptec SCSI controller and Broadcom gigabit ethernets on it (both of which tended to exhibit odd behaviours about 3 days after warranty expiration). The basic platform itself was awesome.

 

[cyberjock]

I don't consider it unfair. We've discussed this before. I'm not saying AMD or Intel are "better". The problem may occur with AMD based systems, but the problems aren't necessarily with the actual AMD hardware. In fact, most people never solve their problems and just buy Intel stuff that is recommended the most and the problem goes away. We all know that a sufficiently powerful CPU by either vendor is more than capable of sufficiently performing the task of running a FreeNAS server.

A system is more than just a CPU(as I'm sure you know). It could be motherboard manufacturers being cheap, it could be BIOS implementation by motherboards sucks, it could be that AMD CPUs suck, it could be that people building AMDs are more likely to buy the $35 motherboard(which we all know you get what you pay for). I don't know. The only thing I do know is that AMD systems seem to have more problems booting and running than Intel systems. For whatever reason. I won't begin to speculate why because that would be unfair. I'm only observing the behavior, I don't try to interpret why.

 

[Irvin Daniel]

Thanks for your responses. I am going to actually upgrade to Intel which will be my best bet right now.