Second ATA error on same drive. Last error was 6 months ago. Server is 14 months old.

Sonicmixmaster

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Please skip to the next post. I deleted the contents of this one as I had several screw ups.
 
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I just noticed that both code boxes contain the output of the drive without errors. I mistakenly overwrote the da3 output of the drive with errors: here is the entire post redone correctly. Sorry!

Case: Thermaltake Core V71 TG ATX Full Tower Case
CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 Desktop Processor 4 Cores up to 4.3 GHz LGA1200 (Intel 400 Series Chipset) 65W
CPU cooler: Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM 150W Max TDP
Motherboard: ASRock B460 Pro4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Power supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 550 W 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Memory: Memory running at 2666 MHZ due to motherboard limitation. G.Skill RipJaws V Series 128GB (4 x 32GB) 288-Pin SDRAM (PC4-28800) DDR4 3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V Quad Channel Desktop Memory
Boot drives: 2 drives in RAID 1 Kingston 120GB A400 SATA 3 2.5" Internal SSD
Cache drive: Patriot Viper VPN100 256GB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 x 4 SSD
1st storage pool: 6 drives in ZFS RAIDZ2, Western Digital WD140EDFZ 14TB 5400 RPM that came out of WD EasyStore external USB desktop units. Total usable space 50.7 TB. I have 1 drive out of system as a spare.
2nd storage pool: 2 drives in RAID1 WD80EMAZ 8TB and WD80EZZX 8TB that came out of WD MyBook external USB desktop units. Total usable space 7.11 TB
Drive controller: LSI Broadcom SAS 9300-8i 8-port 12Gb/s SATA+SAS PCI-Express 3.0 Low Profile Host Bus Adapter
Drive cables: 2 x CableCreation Internal HD Mini SAS (SFF-8643 Host) - 4X SATA (Target) Cable 1M / 3.3FT

Some other info:
TrueNas version: TrueNAS-12.0-U8
For networking I am using the motherboard built in gigabit port.
Additional cooling:
Case came with 3 200mm fans, I purchased a Noctua A20 PWM 86.46 CFM 200 mm fan to fill in the vacant space.
Also added a Noctua NF-P14r redux-1500 PWM for exhaust on back of case.
The LSI HBA heat sink gets really hot so I added a Noctua A4x20 PWM 5.53 CFM 40 mm Fan right to the heatsink.

Idle power draw is approximately 99-100W.
Peak power draw during boot 202W but could be different during scrub jobs or other use.
This machine is connected to a CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD Intelligent LCD UPS System, 1500VA/900W

Hello. My first post here and I figured I ask as now I am a little bit worried. Back in August of 2021 I got an ATA error:
I thank to all who read this post and all who can advise me on my next move.

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notifications_active
CRITICAL
Device: /dev/da3 [SAT], ATA error count increased from 32 to 33.
08/14/2021 01:05:50 PM (America/New_York)
Dismiss
notifications_active
CRITICAL
Device: /dev/da3 [SAT], ATA error count increased from 33 to 34.
02/20/2022 12:54:54 AM (America/New_York)
Dismiss


I researched this and someone suggested that their problem was solved by replacing the power supply. So I went on Amazon today and bought an 850W Seasonic 80+ Titanium as I currently have 550W Seasonic 80+ Gold. That post said that running more than 4 drives from 1 cable was causing the problem. It may be that my 550W takes a dip in supplying power on the 12V rail because it's 550W I don't know. My problem is a little different as that person had problems on multiple drives. I am only having this on 1 drive and so far not that often. The August notification was the first time ever I got notified and the server been in operation since February 2021. Before full time operation I had the drives still in their USB cases testing for about a week before I decided to shuck them and put them in the server. This server is configured that I can lose 2 drives out of the 6 in this pool and still be able to recover. I have 1 spare new drive on my shelf if needed. The server is not constantly busy but it is storing my entire lifetime of pictures, videos, drive backups, multiple duplicate copies of file copies I do whenever I reinstall the OS on all my computers or do major updates to the software. Currently I have 19TB free out of 50TB and that has been like that since I finished migrating everything from various drives and flash storage. Currently once in a while I delete duplicated files I notice and perform Windows backups on 2 computers daily at night. So no 24/7 constant access.Max drive temps between all drives are between 34C and 36C. The case has excellent cooling and the drives are mounted in the very front where fresh cool air comes in the case Should I be worried? If i need to replace the drive how should I do it? Should i just pull it out and replace it with my spare new one? Here is some diagnostics I ran on that drive:

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Last login: Sun Feb 20 16:04:06 on pts/6
FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p12 ec84e0c52a1(HEAD) TRUENAS

        TrueNAS (c) 2009-2022, iXsystems, Inc.
        All rights reserved.
        TrueNAS code is released under the modified BSD license with some
        files copyrighted by (c) iXsystems, Inc.

        For more information, documentation, help or support, go here:
        http://truenas.com
Welcome to TrueNAS

Warning: settings changed through the CLI are not written to
the configuration database and will be reset on reboot.

root@truenas[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da3
smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p12 amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     WDC WD140EDFZ-11A0VA0
Serial Number:    ########
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 28fc16a23
Firmware Version: 81.00A81
User Capacity:    14,000,519,643,136 bytes [14.0 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sun Feb 20 16:11:23 2022 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                (  101) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (1475) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0004   135   135   054    Old_age   Offline      -       112
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   081   081   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       391 (Average 389)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       97
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000a   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0004   133   133   020    Old_age   Offline      -       18
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       10658
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       97
 22 Unknown_Attribute       0x0023   100   100   025    Pre-fail  Always       -       100
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       533
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       533
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   048   048   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 18/52)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       38

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 38 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
        CR = Command Register [HEX]
        FR = Features Register [HEX]
        SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
        SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
        CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
        CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
        DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
        DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
        ER = Error register [HEX]
        ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 38 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10650 hours (443 days + 18 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART Offline or Self-test.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 00 00 00 00 00  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 08 48 a5 b4 40 00   2d+07:26:54.382  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 00 08 a5 b4 40 00   2d+07:26:54.381  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 08 c8 a4 b4 40 00   2d+07:26:54.381  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 00 88 a4 b4 40 00   2d+07:26:54.381  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 08 48 a4 b4 40 00   2d+07:26:54.381  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 37 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10649 hours (443 days + 17 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART Offline or Self-test.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 00 00 00 00 00  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 80 00 30 b0 64 40 00   2d+06:21:04.778  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 18 70 b5 64 40 00   2d+06:21:04.778  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 10 30 b5 64 40 00   2d+06:21:04.778  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 80 08 b0 b4 64 40 00   2d+06:21:04.778  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 10 f0 af 64 40 00   2d+06:21:04.778  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 36 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10649 hours (443 days + 17 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 00 00 00 00 00  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 80 00 50 2c fc 40 00   2d+05:59:41.784  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 18 50 32 fc 40 00   2d+05:59:41.782  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 10 10 32 fc 40 00   2d+05:59:41.782  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 08 d0 31 fc 40 00   2d+05:59:41.782  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 38 50 24 fc 40 00   2d+05:59:41.761  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 35 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10645 hours (443 days + 13 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART Offline or Self-test.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 00 00 00 00 00  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 08 80 21 40 40 00   2d+02:29:17.285  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 10 40 21 40 40 00   2d+02:29:17.270  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 00 00 21 40 40 00   2d+02:29:17.270  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 80 08 80 20 40 40 00   2d+02:29:17.266  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 80 00 80 75 3d 40 00   2d+02:29:17.266  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 34 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10644 hours (443 days + 12 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was doing SMART Offline or Self-test.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 00 00 00 00 00  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 80 00 20 cc 07 40 00   2d+01:14:35.835  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 08 e0 cb 07 40 00   2d+01:14:35.834  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 00 a0 cb 07 40 00   2d+01:14:35.834  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 40 00 60 cb 07 40 00   2d+01:14:35.834  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 c0 08 a0 ca 07 40 00   2d+01:14:35.830  READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10651         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10645         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10481         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10476         -
# 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10313         -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10308         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10145         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10140         -
# 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9977         -
#10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9810         -
#11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9641         -
#12  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9473         -
#13  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9305         -
#14  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9137         -
#15  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8969         -
#16  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8801         -
#17  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8633         -
#18  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8465         -
#19  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8297         -
#20  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8132         -
#21  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      7961         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0  


Here is the same output on a drive I never got errors on:
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 selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

root@truenas[~]# smartctl -a /dev/da2
smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p12 amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     WDC WD140EDFZ-11A0VA0
Serial Number:    ########
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 28fc177a6
Firmware Version: 81.00A81
User Capacity:    14,000,519,643,136 bytes [14.0 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sun Feb 20 15:28:02 2022 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                (  101) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (1534) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0004   135   135   054    Old_age   Offline      -       108
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   081   081   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       394 (Average 391)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       93
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000a   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0004   133   133   020    Old_age   Offline      -       18
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       10658
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       93
 22 Unknown_Attribute       0x0023   100   100   025    Pre-fail  Always       -       100
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       529
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       529
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   045   045   000    Old_age   Always       -       36 (Min/Max 19/53)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10651         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10646         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10481         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10476         -
# 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10313         -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10308         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10145         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     10140         -
# 9  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9977         -
#10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9811         -
#11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9641         -
#12  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9473         -
#13  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9305         -
#14  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      9137         -
#15  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8970         -
#16  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8801         -
#17  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8633         -
#18  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8465         -
#19  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8297         -
#20  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      8132         -
#21  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      7961         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, r
 
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Maybe it is too late here, but I really don't understand what the problem or question is. It would be helpful not to put pretty much everything in one large paragraph, but structure things and highlight was it is that you want, and what the relevant background information is.
 

Sonicmixmaster

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Maybe it is too late here, but I really don't understand what the problem or question is. It would be helpful not to put pretty much everything in one large paragraph, but structure things and highlight was it is that you want, and what the relevant background information is.
Forum rules require as much info as possible so I added a lot. I dont know what else to tell you without repeating what I already said in the post above yours.
 

Ericloewe

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Well, it's useful to have the questions visually stand out, which they tend not to in your post. It helps to understand what is going on.

In any case, the most relevant piece of information is that the drive reporting errors is reporting CRC errors. So, something along the transmission line is in poor shape - most likely the cables. All other SMART values look okay.

I think the PSU replacement was premature, in this case, and that you need to try out different (shorter, if possible) SATA cables. Or cable, singular, specifically for the affected disk.
 

Sonicmixmaster

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Well, it's useful to have the questions visually stand out, which they tend not to in your post. It helps to understand what is going on.

In any case, the most relevant piece of information is that the drive reporting errors is reporting CRC errors. So, something along the transmission line is in poor shape - most likely the cables. All other SMART values look okay.

I think the PSU replacement was premature, in this case, and that you need to try out different (shorter, if possible) SATA cables. Or cable, singular, specifically for the affected disk.
Thanks for the reply. If it's CRC then that is not a major problem and I'm happy. If I just move the cables around to different drives is that possible? For example if I put the cable from drive 3 to 2 and 2 to 3 is that going to mess up the array? I would like to see if drive 2 will start throwing errors in the future. I read somewhere that drives can be reinstalled in any order and the software will find them no matter how they are plugged in. Is that true? As far as the PSU I think a 850W will have a longer life as it wont be as loaded as the 550W because I am planning on running this 24/7 as it has been for over a year now. I could use the 550W for other project that is not as demanding in the future.
 
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f I just move the cables around to different drives is that possible? For example if I put the cable from drive 3 to 2 and 2 to 3 is that going to mess up the array?
Two answers:
  • ZFS, like any self-respecting, vaguely-useful RAID-adjacent solution, does not care about which disk goes where, as long as it can see the disk and talk to it,
  • If you're going to do that, make sure to scrub the pool first, wouldn't want to do that sort of maneuver with silent corruption and risk spreading it to another disk.
I read somewhere that drives can be reinstalled in any order and the software will find them no matter how they are plugged in. Is that true?
For abundance of clarity, yes.
As far as the PSU I think a 850W will have a longer life as it wont be as loaded as the 550W because I am planning on running this 24/7 as it has been for over a year now.
The 550 W unit is a good size for this system, so I would not worry about it. Nothing wrong with the larger unit. Good news is that Seasonic's modular cables have been fully-interchangeable for maybe a decade now, so you can just swap out those two PSUs without a care in the world.*

* Definitely care about this. Not everyone has such a long history of interchangeable cables. Corsair comes close, but their situation is trickier.
 

Sonicmixmaster

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Two answers:
  • ZFS, like any self-respecting, vaguely-useful RAID-adjacent solution, does not care about which disk goes where, as long as it can see the disk and talk to it,
  • If you're going to do that, make sure to scrub the pool first, wouldn't want to do that sort of maneuver with silent corruption and risk spreading it to another disk.

For abundance of clarity, yes.

The 550 W unit is a good size for this system, so I would not worry about it. Nothing wrong with the larger unit. Good news is that Seasonic's modular cables have been fully-interchangeable for maybe a decade now, so you can just swap out those two PSUs without a care in the world.*

* Definitely care about this. Not everyone has such a long history of interchangeable cables. Corsair comes close, but their situation is trickier.
Thank you for your help. My power supply arrived, now I just need to take some time and swap it out. I am using these cables on the LSI HBA https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BTEYLEQ do you think these are good enough? I have a big case so these are 3.3 feet and are comfortably the right size for where my drives are placed.
 

Ericloewe

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No particular opinion on the cables, but even good cables can degrade and/or be damaged.
 

Etorix

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Thanks for the reply. If it's CRC then that is not a major problem and I'm happy. If I just move the cables around to different drives is that possible?
Drive failure would rather manifest at items #5, 196, 197, 198.
You may indeed swap the cable (after doing a scrub!) and keep an eye on the system. If the (rather infrequent) error follows the cable and manifests itself on drive 2, you'll know what to replace.
 

Sonicmixmaster

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I thank you all for your time and information. I am new to TrueNAS and it will take me some time to start to understand it all. Oh and I am also almost as new with Linux commands but I did tinker a bit in the past with some Linux distros, either way I am not nearly as good with it as Windows and DOS. I will swap the PSU and rearrange the cables in the near future after the scrub is done and post here if the error follows the cable. So once again thank you all for your help.
 
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