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We have a dell 620 we would like to use to support our lab machines. It currently had a H710 controller. I dont think this can be flashed but can we replace it with another card? If so what cards would you recommend?

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Do not get the H310 mini. Use the Onboard controller and use R620 as a head unit. See my Signature
 

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Ok well I have a 1u constraint so it may be better to just buy something like what I have below and run free nas without worrying about the Raid card. Let me know what you think. I will be adding a 10GB card as well any recommendations I was going to add the intel Intel X540T2?


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This would work. However if you are willing to buy used server that could save you quite a lot. I believe @Chris Moore can do more detailed suggestions

BTW what is your use case? 1U white box build will severely limit your options. For instance if you are providing shared storage to hypervisors you most likely will have to decide between SLOG and 10G NICs (X540T2 is not the best NIC for FreeNAS BTW, I have it in mine just because it came with it).
 

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@Chris Moore I am willing to use a used server. The use case is shared storage for a xen pool in our lab. I would like to stay with a 10GB nic and 4 3TB drives so I can quickly migrate servers off of host and do snapshots.
if x540T2 is not a good choice what card do you recommend.
 

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@Chris Moore I am willing to use a used server. The use case is shared storage for a xen pool in our lab. I would like to stay with a 10GB nic and 4 3TB drives so I can quickly migrate servers off of host and do snapshots.
if x540T2 is not a good choice what card do you recommend.
You will first decide if you need an SLOG. Think about this question, if your FreeNAS box goes down unexpectedly, either power problem or system crash, is it acceptable to roll back to last snapshot (like yesterday)? Or would you prefer not to?

You mentioned that it's for hypervisors. How will the shared storage be presented, iSCSI, NFS? How many hypervisor hosts? How many VM? What's the max IOPS (read and write) expected? How much space you need?
 

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For this system we could roll back as it is not a production box, We have 3 Host systems run a total of 12 VM's. Each VM is 50 GB with the exception of one that is 450GB and we can present storage as NFS or iSCSI.
 

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For this system we could roll back as it is not a production box, We have 3 Host systems run a total of 12 VM's. Each VM is 50 GB with the exception of one that is 450GB and we can present storage as NFS or iSCSI.
Great, then you don't need a SLOG, which makes things a lot easier. I cannot make specific recommendation w/o numbers, but here is some fruit of thought:

To begin with, you will want a 1u system with 10 2.5' slots. 4 HDDs most likely will not provide sufficient IOPS for VMs
Get a supermicro system with at least 1 PCIe slot, 2 is better. 1 slot is for your 10G NIC and another is for your SAS HBA. SM makes MB /w SAS controller on-board as well, get one of that if you went with 1 slot chassis.
CPU doesn't really matter much, a cheap e5 v2 will do. Do not opt for the latest one because DDR4 RAM is much more expensive than DDR3. If you would ever need to go above 128G RAM, get 2 e5-26XX v2.
Start with 64G of ECC RAM, more if you want better read performance.
2 cheap SSDs for boot, used intel enterprise ones are cheap and really good.
Depending on your IOPS, get one of the following (assuming your space need is 1T):
1. 8 1T SATA HDDs in striped mirrors
2. 8 10k/15k 1T SAS HDDs in striped mirrors
3. 4 to 8 SSDs in striped mirrors, make sure total raw capacity is > 2T.

Due to the nature of COW filesystem, the write performance decreases exponentially as the pool fills, which is especially evident on HDDs. I recommend to keep the pool less than 33% full if you are using HDDs, and less than 50% for SSD.
 

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Thank you. That gives me a good idea.

I buy mostly Dell server products do you know a reputable seller is for used supermicro servers.

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Thank you. That gives me a good idea.

I buy mostly Dell server products do you know a reputable seller is for used supermicro servers.

TIA
Sorry, I cannot help on this.
 
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