Probably not more than two, but going with a haswell i3 and then upgrading in a few years when I'd likely have some 4K content might make more sense as hardware will be more capable/cheaper.Probably. But, better to have the capacity to do 1-2 4K streams (how many 4K streams are you really going to run simultaneously?) versus none.
The used market by me is pretty shitty, plus I'm not the biggest fan of buying used (especially for a server -- frankly, that seems far more stupid to me than going with non server grade hardware).Wait for three years and see if anyone's selling an E5-1650v3 cheap.
The used market by me is pretty shitty, plus I'm not the biggest fan of buying used (especially for a server -- frankly, that seems far more stupid to me than going with non server grade hardware).
That doesn't alleviate the awful used market. Plus stress testing isn't fool proof either. I've had hardware die on me that had no issues under a stress test.buy it, stress test it, verify its 100%. If fail then return else deploy into produce and save.
Dont see what the problem is TBH, I trust my life to a second hand car so maybe I just like living on the edge... :)
There's still bclk over clocking and/or the risk that it was used at 100% load for three years with poor cooling.Well, the upside is that you can't do a variety of bad stuff to the Xeons like overclocking. I prefer to buy new too, but if I can get two of something used for the same price, maybe..!
Well, the upside is that you can't do a variety of bad stuff to the Xeons like overclocking. I prefer to buy new too, but if I can get two of something used for the same price, maybe..!
Any thoughts on keystone memory group: http://www.ebay.com/usr/keystonememory?rt=ncPractically all of my stuff is used (unless I can't find it and need it now..). Heck only real things in my life that are "new" are my kids... Wife was even used; but in "excellent, like new condition.. Just missing original packaging"...
http://m.ebay.com/itm/311518503894?_mwBanner=1I'd probably take a gamble with them. They have lots of feedback and seem to take returns for DOA parts. If you wanted to be slightly unethical and had a device that wasn't DOA but failed stress test, rendering it DOA wouldn't be hard...
Pay close attention to the pictures and any mention of "ES", "engineering sample", or anything relating to the chip being property of Intel and not for resale. Most of the sample chips are the earliest part of production, and often still have weird bugs - often quite esoteric bugs that will pop up in very strange ways.
My FreeNAS box is entirely used... there isn't a single part in it, including the drives, that was bought new. You just have to be very careful purchasing, heavy-handed with the testing, and prepared in case something bad happens.
Do you think a 1620v3 would be able to handle two transcoded 4K streams (that will be raw UHD bluray rips -- 1080p blurays are like 6MB/s so 4K should be like 12-24MB/s?)?The 1603v3 is the welfare version of the 16xxv3 family, much like the 2603v3 is the welfare version of the 26xxv3. It's not as bad, since it doesn't have the insanely slow clock rate, but it lacks hyperthreading. Personally, I'd hold out for a 1620v3.
My only problem with that I'm still afraid it won't be able to handle two or more 4K streams well. From what I've read a 1230 should be able to handle 7 1080p transcoded streams, which means two 4K streams may or may not be possible.Not sure if this would help the OP but I just bought one of these setups.
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/fs-my-babies-xeon-e3-servers-qty-3.8097/
It should take everything that I can through at it for now (home use) and I figure that with the money I save, I can upgrade in a few years, if needed.
I've been thinking something similar myself, but I haven't ever really bought hardware used -- I tend to buy new due to reliability concerns and what not. But $400 for an extra 2 cores/4 threads and an extra 16gb of RAM is kind compelling. I'm just not sure if it's worth the risk dealing with used hardware.Fair point. Everyone's use case is unique and only they can understand it.
When I was planning my server, I was thinking as you are. How do I future proof myself as best as possible? In the end it turned out to be about $1200 for a reasonably future proofed system versus $375 for this. I just couldn't justify $800 for a set up that may or may not still be good in 5 years. The technology is changing too fast right now to be sure of anything.
My view on 4k is that it will be years before mainstream 4k content is readily available. Sure, you can get it on Netflix but you don't need to transcode that, just stream it. And you don't need to upscale 1080p content for a 4k tv. The tv has a dedicated processor to do that.
So this system will get me through the next 3 to 5 years, then, with the money I saved (and invested wisely), I can buy the next, next generation of parts (10gbe network, 16TB flash drives, etc.) for a fraction of today's prices.
Shipping was free to the US. :)