Crazy Noobs wanna know...

[Montel Bahn]

Is there any succinct way to explain why sshd runs when the ssh service is turned off?
Is this as expected?.. the services on-off settings DON'T actually control the daemons?

 

[SweetAndLow]

Can you still ssh into the server when it's turned off in the gui.

 

[Montel Bahn]

No it says ...blah blah connection refused
...But my point is ...it is responding!
You would think sshd would be not 'running' and there would be no response, same as when I pull the Cat5 out of router.
Is this information leakage normal? Seems kinda silly....
cat /etc/rc.conf|grep -i ssh
sshd_enable="Yes"

Just cause i'm paranoid doesn't mean the Five eyes panopticon isn't trying to bootstrap!
HAhA. Reagan was my hero.

 

[dlavigne]

Which build version (from System -> Information)? Also, post the output of sockstat when the SSH service is showing as OFF in the GUI.

 

[Mirfster]

Which build version (from System -> Information)? Also, post the output of sockstat when the SSH service is showing as OFF in the GUI.

Just tried this on FreeNAS-9.3-STABLE-201512121950:

With SSH On:

With SSH Off:

With SSH Off and Trying to Access via Putty:

Not sure if this is an issue of not, because I see varying results "Network Error: Connection Refused" and "Network Error: Connection Timed Out" on other Windows machines. However, I am pretty sure that is due to a Firewall on these Windows Machines (just haven't validated that).

 

[SweetAndLow]

Looks like when sshd is off its doesn't have a listening socket so it's not possible to make a connection.

 

[Montel Bahn]

Sorry if that was alarmist,

I had a terminal open, so as per freenas notifier in bottom console, it was waiting on that PID. I suppose this is normal (not closing the connection, even though the Services slider was turned OFF). I added my version to my Signature(9.3p28). sockstat confirmed this also. The Guide is also very clear(no mention of process or daemons). This was on LAN of course, so I gather the ...blah blah connection refused makes sense.

cat /etc/rc.conf|grep -i ssh
Even with service slider set to off, gives
sshd_enable="Yes"

...I guess I shouldn't assume that was the control mechanism. This noob obviously has to go read much more of that wonderful documentation that FreeBSD and FreeNAS are famous for (Thanks a bunch DL). Please tag this Solved or something so as not to waste members' time.

 

[SweetAndLow]

It is interesting that the process didn't die. I would be curious to know the rational behind that decision. You should keep digging until you find a solid answer.

 

[pirateghost]

How does the horrible webgui console open a session?

 

[Montel Bahn]

How does the horrible webgui console open a session?

If I understand your question...The GUI 'Shell' (which we never forget to close when Turning services ON or OFF, haha) is NOT using SSH as far as I can see. I had another Terminal open like a bozo. Now let me go hide please.

 

[Ericloewe]

This question has popped up before, but I can't seem to remember what the reasoning was. I do remember it was convincing.