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ice5192

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Does FreeNAS support this at all we I am trying to pgp then after it is done doing that i am wanting to tar the backup to a hdd? I am running 9.10.1 U2 any insights and help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You want to pgp a tar backup?

Just do that from the client that is being backed up
 

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No i want to pgp then preform the tar backup to an external hdd

0. Use FreeNAS to encrypt USB 3.0 HDD
1 Use open pgp to encrypt USB 3.0 drive
2. Tar files from Virtual drive to PGP USB 3.0 drive

How do i do that ^^^^^^
 

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OpenPGP is a standard, not a piece of software. The piece of OpenPGP-compliant software that would be most likely to be used on FreeNAS would be GnuPG. GnuPG does not support full-disk encryption. So, "Use open pgp to encrypt USB 3.0 drive" is nonsensical, as is the mention of "PGP USB 3.0 drive." FreeNAS does support full-disk encryption, but as @pirateghost says, if you aren't thoroughly familiar with the ins and outs of that process, it isn't recommended, as it's entirely too easy to lose your data.

After four posts of yours on this topic, I really have only the vaguest of ideas of what you want to do. Posting in standard English sentences and paragraphs would help. But what I do understand sounds like you want to store a PGP-encrypted backup of something on your NAS to an external USB hard drive. Is that right?

If that's what you're wanting to do, no, FreeNAS isn't going to support it natively. You could certainly do it with a jail, though. If that's not what you're wanting to do, maybe you should start over, and explain what you actually want to accomplish, rather than just how you think it should be done.
 

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Well, let's see.

A. You shouldn't be using USB drives with FreeNAS as data storage.

B. Unless you understand the process you shouldn't encrypt your pools.

C. What virtual drive? What is this referring to?

http://doc.freenas.org/9.10/storage.html#encryption

Please read and familiarize yourself with the documentation

not trying to encrypt the pools i am wanting to know if i can use the command line and setup pgp either in a jail or through command line... do you know what i am asking?
OpenPGP is a standard, not a piece of software. The piece of OpenPGP-compliant software that would be most likely to be used on FreeNAS would be GnuPG. GnuPG does not support full-disk encryption. So, "Use open pgp to encrypt USB 3.0 drive" is nonsensical, as is the mention of "PGP USB 3.0 drive." FreeNAS does support full-disk encryption, but as @pirateghost says, if you aren't thoroughly familiar with the ins and outs of that process, it isn't recommended, as it's entirely too easy to lose your data.

After four posts of yours on this topic, I really have only the vaguest of ideas of what you want to do. Posting in standard English sentences and paragraphs would help. But what I do understand sounds like you want to store a PGP-encrypted backup of something on your NAS to an external USB hard drive. Is that right?

If that's what you're wanting to do, no, FreeNAS isn't going to support it natively. You could certainly do it with a jail, though. If that's not what you're wanting to do, maybe you should start over, and explain what you actually want to accomplish, rather than just how you think it should be done.

Yes you nailed it sorry i have been on a mobile phone all day... I am needing to setup a jail to be able to use OpenPGP to encrypt sensitive dat, I have 20 HDD which hold data on them which will be transported by handcuff from location to location, I am needing to set this up so we know the HDD are safe.... in transit. All i am wanting to know is the steps so i can test this out in a testing environment before putting it in a production setting hope you a tracking now sorry for the vague speak...

My Goal is to rip my data then the ripped data will be transported to a HDD no more then 2TB hooked up to the freenas then i want to be able to use OpenPGP in a jail setting and encrypt the HDD hoooked up then tar it and move on to the next one operation could take long time i know this i am just looking for help on how to do these jails, I have never done this before.
 

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i am just looking for help on how to do these jails
You've looked at the manual, right? It deals with jails pretty extensively. Once you have the jail set up, you have a FreeBSD installation, so you'd want to look for resources on installing software, automating backups, etc. under FreeBSD.
 

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You've looked at the manual, right? It deals with jails pretty extensively. Once you have the jail set up, you have a FreeBSD installation, so you'd want to look for resources on installing software, automating backups, etc. under FreeBSD.

Yes,

as it is huge and i am in a time crunch can you please be so kind and point in the right direction and or give me insight on how the jails work... So i need to install FreeBSD inside a jail and go from there?
 

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Yes,

as it is huge and i am in a time crunch can you please be so kind and point in the right direction and or give me insight on how the jails work... So i need to install FreeBSD inside a jail and go from there?
If you've read the manual on jails you would know that a jail already contains a "freebsd install".

I don't understand what it is you're trying to accomplish.

What are you transporting and why do you need to tar it up or open-pgp it at all?
 

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If you've read the manual on jails you would know that a jail already contains a "freebsd install".

I don't understand what it is you're trying to accomplish.

What are you transporting and why do you need to tar it up or open-pgp it at all?

HIPP think that....
How hard is it to look at the table of contents for the section called "Jails"?

Gents, I am dealing with HIPP stuff i cannot tell you anymore then that, All i want to know is the process to be able to Encrypt the connected USB drives using OpenPGP and then being able to tar it afterwards all in freenas, according to both of you i have to jail a install of freebsd, there is no need to become hostel with me i am just trying to figure this out and i have a deadline i am sorry to bother you with my questions which might help 1000 of other users out there.

Like i stated i am new to freenas however i am a su user i am pretty well versed on Linux i have a test environment setup to test this out I am just needing the steps...
 

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Nobody is going to give you a step by step because we don't understand what it is you're trying to do.

You aren't going to encrypt the USB HDD.

You need to make sure you are very clear with what the end goal looks like, not how you think you should get there. It sounds like you're confused as hell.

Encrypt the files, and then copy them to a hard drive. It's that simple.

In order to do that you use a jail. You don't install freebsd inside a jail. If you would take 5 minutes to look at the manual it explains exactly how the jails works.
 

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http://doc.freenas.org/9.10/jails.html

By default, a FreeBSD jail is created. This provides a very light-weight, operating system-level virtualization. Consider it as another independent instance of FreeBSD running on the same hardware, without all of the overhead usually associated with virtualization. The jail will install the FreeBSD software management utilities so FreeBSD ports can be compiled and FreeBSD packages can be installed from the command line of the jail.

The documentation walks you through the creation of a jail. It explains what you need to know to use the jail. There is no reason for us to repeat those things. It's already written for you.
 

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Nobody is going to give you a step by step because we don't understand what it is you're trying to do.

You aren't going to encrypt the USB HDD.

You need to make sure you are very clear with what the end goal looks like, not how you think you should get there. It sounds like you're confused as hell.

Encrypt the files, and then copy them to a hard drive. It's that simple.

In order to do that you use a jail. You don't install freebsd inside a jail. If you would take 5 minutes to look at the manual it explains exactly how the jails works.

My goal is pretty clear hang on...

See....

Unless i am crazy....
 
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Telnet?

A virtual drive share? What kind of virtual drive?

You aren't going to encrypt the HDD with pgp. I don't think you understand how this works.

So yes, in summation, you are crazy.

PS. This looks like homework or some really stupid directive by someone who doesn't know what the hell is going on
 

ice5192

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Telnet?

A virtual drive share? What kind of virtual drive?

You aren't going to encrypt the HDD with pgp. I don't think you understand how this works.

So yes, in summation, you are crazy.

PS. This looks like homework or some really stupid directive by someone who doesn't know what the hell is going on

Lets add this into the mix

the Virtual Drive is said Freenas Volume IE NAS1 this is ready for backing up of the data which will be pushed to via over the Windows share folder we then want to take that and as you state is not possible to use the jail with Freebsd and openpgp it then tar it once completed then move on to the next hdd as openpgp is a standard we were hoping to eliminated steps when having to do the transfer of the raw data from the NAS 1 (which was sent via from a share folder in windows sharing to the nas unencrypted to the output of a USB drive which we are wanting to be encrypted?
 
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