Where did my space go?

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At an actual 2.7 tb per disk I'm thinking I should have gotten 13.6tb. I'm guessing the ZFS eats a share as well?
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zpool list

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pistrakas

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Hello all,

This is my first post, and I am having a similar problem.

I just installed FreeNas in a Virtual machine My principal goal is to learn how it works, and now I am facing my first problem. I added 6 virtual disk with 3 GB each. I made to RaidZ volumes and I was expecting to loose around 6 GB in space due to the parity. However, I am only getting 3.9 GB.

My question is: I am getting that small amount of space because of the small size of the virtual disks?


This are my outputs of the commands above:

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# zpool list                                                    
NAME   SIZE  ALLOC   FREE    CAP  DEDUP  HEALTH  ALTROOT                        
vol1  5.97G  1.51G  4.46G    25%  1.00x  ONLINE  /mnt                           
# zfs list                                                      
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT                                           
vol1  1.01G  2.91G  1.00G  /mnt/vol1                                            
       




Thank you all
 

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pistrakas

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Thank you Cyberjock for you fast response. I already made a research about my problem and I didn't found anything that could apply to my situation. What I found is that most of the problems are because of the manufacture's marketing departments. I am using virtual disk, and, like i said, I have dedicated 18 GB separated in six 3 GB disk. My problem is that i only have available 3.9 GB. In my opinion is excessive. That's why i am asking if this situation is normal.
 

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Man, I really wish there was some sort of DOCUMENTATION that people could read......


1.4.4 Storage Disks and Controllers
The Disk section of the FreeBSD Hardware List lists the supported disk controllers. In addition, support for 3ware 6gbps RAID controllers has been added along with the CLI utility tw_cli for managing 3ware RAID controllers.
FreeNAS® supports hot pluggable drives. Make sure that AHCI is enabled in the BIOS. Make sure that AHCI is enabled in the BIOS. Note that hot plugging is not the same as hot swapping.
If you need reliable disk alerting, immediate reporting of a failed drive, and or swapping, use a fully manageable hardware RAID controller such as a LSI MegaRAID controller or a 3Ware twa-compatible controller. Until FreeBSD commits zfsd, its implementation of ZFS will not notice that a drive is gone until you reboot or put the volume on high load.
If you have some money to spend and wish to optimize your disk subsystem, consider your read/write needs, your budget, and your RAID requirements.
For example, moving the the ZIL (ZFS Intent Log) to a dedicated SSD only helps performance if you have synchronous writes, like a database server. SSD cache devices only help if your working set is larger than system RAM, but small enough that a significant percentage of it will fit on the SSD.
If you have steady, non-contiguous writes, use disks with low seek times. Examples are 10K or 15K SAS drives which cost about $1/GB. An example configuration would be six 600 GB 15K SAS drives in a RAID 10 which would yield 1.8 TB of usable space or eight 600 GB 15K SAS drives in a RAID 10 which would yield 2.4 TB of usable space.
7200 RPM SATA disks are designed for single-user sequential I/O and are not a good choice for multi-user writes.
If you have the budget and high performance is a key requirement, consider a Fusion-I/O card which is optimized for massive random access. These cards are expensive and are suited for high end systems that demand performance. A Fusion-I/O can be formatted with a filesystem and used as direct storage; when used this way, it does not have the write issues typically associated with a flash device. A Fusion-I/O can also be used as a cache device when your ZFS dataset size is bigger than your RAM. Due to the increased throughput, systems running these cards typically use multiple 10 GigE network interfaces.
If you will be using ZFS, Disk Space Requirements for ZFS Storage Pools recommends a minimum of 16 GB of disk space. Due to the way that ZFS creates swap, you can not format less than 3 GB of space with ZFS. However, on a drive that is below the minimum recommended size you lose a fair amount of storage space to swap: for example, on a 4 GB drive, 2 GB will be reserved for swap.
If you are new to ZFS and are purchasing hardware, read through ZFS Storage Pools Recommendations first.
ZFS uses dynamic block sizing, meaning that it is capable of striping different sized disks. However, if you care about performance, use disks of the same size. Further, when creating a RAIDZ, only the size of the smallest disk will be used on each disk.
 

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Documentation? The manual is not documentation! It's a stupid book that should be ignored at any and all costs, including posting to the forums! Geez Pirate!
 

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And Thanks to Pirate for wasting his time on yet another user that thinks reading any documentation is annoying and a waste of THEIR time..... Pretty soon all the documentation is going to be duplicated in the forums like 50 times and people will start ignoring the forums :rolleyes:
 

pistrakas

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Oh.... I see. I don't know what to say. I'll be mad if I were in your position. I'd like to thank you all for you help. I really appreciate it. I also will review the manual again. Thanks Pirategosht, Cyberjock and ProtoSD.:(
 

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And Thanks to Pirate for wasting his time on yet another user that thinks reading any documentation is annoying and a waste of THEIR time..... Pretty soon all the documentation is going to be duplicated in the forums like 50 times and people will start ignoring the forums :rolleyes:

LOL.

I knew WHY the space was missing, but I couldnt remember the 'exact' numbers...so I looked it up in the magical documentation that nobody knows exists
 
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