SOLVED Replacing my motherboard/cpu/memory on old system - need advice

[Patrick M. Hausen]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121687" data-quote="chuck32" data-source="post: 804915" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804915" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804915">chuck32 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You get an HBA card, you do not tweak the BIOS for that. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>For typical home use the board brings more than enough ports. If you need a platform with more CPU power, PCIe x8 with bifurcation etc. there's the X10SDV line by Supermicro.</div>

 

[chuck32]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 34727" data-quote="Patrick M. Hausen" data-source="post: 804916" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804916" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804916">Patrick M. Hausen said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> For typical home use the board brings more than enough ports. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Just wanted to mention an expansion method in case the onboard ports are really not enough and be clear that you do not need to modify/tweak the BIOS for that. Although 12 onboard is <b>a lot. </b>OP probably didn't spot them on the pictures and just counted 4.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">I'm used to tweaking bios via an attached monitor and keyboard (that's the only reason I would need any video). I have an hba card (I'd need to have video to tune and upgrade bios on that, but if it has vga, I believe that would work.) I had an issue with hba and a new motherboard only working with a video card installed (it works fine on my old motherboard.) <a href="https://www.truenas.com/community/members/121687/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="121687" data-username="@chuck32">@chuck32</a> is correct, I only saw the four in the picture. I actually have 14 drives that I am currently accessing from my hba.<br /> <br /> I have TrueNAS and three jails (to be converted to a virtual machines whenever I switch to TrueNAS Linux.) One is basically a web server (very lightly used with a couple of chrons that run python scripts hourly and daily), a Plex server for home movies for our family, and a database, again lightly used.<br /> <br /> Do these boards come with the atom processor installed?</div>

 

[ChrisRJ]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 804950" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804950" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804950">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I actually have 14 drives that I am currently accessing from my hba. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I had overlooked that number before and it seriously changes the game. With that number of drives you will never be able to have a low-power (as in less than 50 Watts) system. You did not specify the drives, but I would assume their idle power draw is at least 70 Watts already, going up to ca. 140 under load. Adding an HBA, which you will likely need, puts another 10-20 Watts on top. So looking for a board that is power efficient, while the market for such boards is quite limited, seems a waste to me. Unless I completely misunderstand something, of course.</div>

 

[Patrick M. Hausen]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 804950" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804950" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804950">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I'm used to tweaking bios via an attached monitor and keyboard (that's the only reason I would need any video). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Server systems generally come with VGA and USB for a local console.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 804950" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804950" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804950">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have an hba card (I'd need to have video to tune and upgrade bios on that, but if it has vga, I believe that would work.) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Of course - it's not fundamentally different from a discrete graphics card.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 804950" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804950" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804950">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I actually have 14 drives that I am currently accessing from my hba. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I overlooked that, sorry. In that case the X10SDV series might be better for you. The A2SDi all have only PCIe 3.0x4 while the X10SDV have x16. So you could keep your HBA.<br /> <br /> E.g. <a href="https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X10SDV-4C-TLN4F" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X10SDV-4C-TLN4F</a><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 804950" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804950" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804950">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Do these boards come with the atom processor installed? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes. And the X10SDV come with the Xeon D processors installed. If you go with the Xeon D you might want to consider active cooling and order an SNK-C0057A4L. Depends on the airflow in your case.<br /> <br /> HTH,<br /> Patrick</div>

 

[Etorix]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 34727" data-quote="Patrick M. Hausen" data-source="post: 804953" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804953" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804953">Patrick M. Hausen said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I overlooked that, sorry. In that case the X10SDV series might be better for you. The A2SDi all have only PCIe 3.0x4 while the X10SDV have x16. So you could keep your HBA. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>12 data drives (8+4) could still fit on a typical A2SDi-8C / A2SDI-H-TF board, moving the OS to a non-redundant M.2 NVMe drive.<br /> Or with the HBA in the open x4 slot.<br /> <br /> There is also an odd <a href="https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MA10-ST0-rev-11" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Gigabyte C3958</a> board with <b>16</b> SATA ports, onboard SFP+ and eMMC for boot:<br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="50864" data-url="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256290184532" data-host="www.ebay.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iBoAAOSwy~FlToZc/s-l400.jpg" alt="www.ebay.com" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/256290184532" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> GIGABYTE MA10-ST0 ATOM C3958 32GB EMMC ASPEED AST2400 MOTHERBOARD MA10-ST0-SI | eBay </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">SR381 Processor 32GB eMMC Aspeed AST2400. Storage Interface: eMMC, SATA 6.0Gb/s. Storage Capacity: 32GB. Mini-ITX Server Motherboard MA10-ST0-SI. No cables, fan’s mounting backplate, fan’s bracket or any other accessories!</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> </span> www.ebay.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> Of course, having that many drives still negates much of the benefits of having a low-power motherboard.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">The four Plex and two boot drives are SSD's, and the other eight are WD Red Plus.<br /> I do have a two-port elcheapo PCIe card (BEYIMEI PCIe SATA Card 2 Ports, PCI-E to SATA Expansion Card,6Gbps PCI-E (2X 4X 8X 16X) SATA 3.0 Controller Card for Windows10/8/7/XP/Vista/Linux,Support SSD and HDD <a href="https://a.co/d/4zhlVn3" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://a.co/d/4zhlVn3</a>) I could use to boot... It's pretty basic and I don't think it gets too hot.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.truenas.com/community/members/106202/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="106202" data-username="@Etorix">@Etorix</a> had a good idea putting the OS on a M.2 NVMe,but I do like the idea of a redundant boot pool if I can get away with the cheap sata card.<br /> <br /> I'm really excited about these gigabyte motherboards! I'd never come across them before.<br /> <br /> <br /> If the atom can handle the few VM's I have and the dual sata port card will work, I think I'm leaning towards the A2SDi-8C-HLN4F as it has more cores and supports more memory. <br /> <br /> Any thoughts on ECC vs non-ECC?</div>

 

[Etorix]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805068" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805068" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805068">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://www.truenas.com/community/members/106202/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="106202" data-username="@Etorix">@Etorix</a> had a good idea putting the OS on a M.2 NVMe,but I do like the idea of a redundant boot pool if I can get away with the cheap sata card. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You <i>might</i> get away with an ASM1067 without port multiplier, but don't quote me on this… and read here if you really want a robust redundant boot drive strategy (only time you'll be advised to get a hardware RAID controller here):<br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="18097" data-url="https://www.truenas.com/community/resources/highly-available-boot-pool-strategy.184/" data-host="www.truenas.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.truenas.com/community/resources/highly-available-boot-pool-strategy.184/" class="link link--internal fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="" rel="" data-proxy-href=""> Highly Available Boot Pool Strategy </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">I&#039;ve pounded a few versions of this out over the years, but I hate explaining over and over. TrueNAS allows a ZFS boot mirror pool to be created to increase the reliability of the NAS. This sounds great in theory, but there&#039;s a flaw. Due to...</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.truenas.com/community/data/assets/logo/FORUMSFAVICON.png" alt="www.truenas.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.truenas.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> For a home NAS, it's not really worth the hassle compared to just replacing a failed boot device and loading the duly archived configuration file.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805068" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805068" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805068">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I'm really excited about these gigabyte motherboards! I'd never come across them before. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Caveat: I've never seen or used one; there are few user reports on them, the layout leaves little for expansion, and it could well be that IPMI is solely of the dreaded Java variety.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805068" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805068" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805068">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Any thoughts on ECC vs non-ECC? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>There's no valid reason to skip ECC for a ZFS server. Especially if the platform supports RDIMM, as is the case for these lovely Atom C3000.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">With everyone's help, here's what I was thinking about:<br /> <br /> 1x Supermicro A2SDi-8C-HLN4F Motherboard <a href="https://a.co/d/hKmFoOE" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://a.co/d/hKmFoOE</a><br /> <br /> 2x Samsung M393A4K40BB1-CRC 32GB DDR4-2400 LP ECC Reg Server Memory <a href="https://a.co/d/5qHhgCY" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://a.co/d/5qHhgCY</a><br /> <br /> 1x LEVEN JM600 M.2 SSD 256GB 3D NAND SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 (22 * 80mm) Internal Solid State Drive <a href="https://a.co/d/9vw3761" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://a.co/d/9vw3761</a><br /> <br /> Please let me know if I am missing something here... <br /> <br /> I have never had anything to do with these types of motherboards before, so any help here would be most appreciated</div>

 

[Etorix]

<div class="bbWrapper">Motherboard, RAM and small-n-cheap boot drive (second-hand works great for the last two). Add chassis and PSU and you're set.<br /> But consider carefully whether you'd like 10 GbE at some point (-H-TF variant?), or whether you're happy to put a SFP+ NIC in the x4 slot. As these embedded boards have limited expansion possibilities it's important to get the on-board configuration right.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805129" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805129" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805129">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have never had anything to do with these types of motherboards before, so any help here would be most appreciated </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Well, these are… motherboards. What's intimidating?<br /> To setup you can plug a keyboard and VGA monitor, or use IPMI: Plug a RJ45 cable in the management port, query your DHCP server to find out what address it got, and then point your browser to this address.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">Well, to be FAIR (to me ;-) ), I've never dealt with PMI, M.2 SSD's, ECC (registered or not), or using SSH or HTML to update motherboard BIOS...<br /> <br /> My home network is just gig-e and internet is only 350 MBS,<span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)"> any of the RJ-45 connections are overkill :-D</span></div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">I just noticed that the I/O shield is on the left of the motherboard (I'm used to seeing it on the right for ATX cases...) Am I going to need a new case for this class of motherboard? So it seems that this is a mini-Itx motherboard and from <a href="https://techguided.com/micro-atx-vs-mini-itx-vs-atx/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">here</a>, it looks like a mini-itx motherboard *should* fit in an ATX case (more new-to-me stuff) ...</div>

 

[chuck32]

<div class="bbWrapper">I'm not sure I follow. All the boards on your link have the IO on the left, same as the Supermicro board.<br /> <br /> Yes smaller form factors fit, just mind the stand off positions. I haven't see a atx case that didn't fit a smaller size.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">Maybe this is a topic for another thread, but would now be the time to switch from Core to Scale? Would I be better off with a clean install?<br /> <br /> I currently have a jail for Plex and another that I could easily replicate as a VM as it<span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)">only consists of a few scripts and a web server.<br /> <br /> I may be even able to do a clean install and rsync the files over (if I can find enough drives). </span></div>

 

[chuck32]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805494" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805494" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805494">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Would I be better off with a clean install? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Personally I would start fresh.<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805494" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805494" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805494">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="color: rgb(20, 20, 20)">I may be even able to do a clean install and rsync the files over (if I can find enough drives). </span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No need, you could export your pool and reimport it on the new system.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 121687" data-quote="chuck32" data-source="post: 805496" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805496" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805496">chuck32 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Personally I would start fresh.<br /> <br /> No need, you could export your pool and reimport it on the new system. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I like the idea of starting fresh, but to export the pools, I'd need somewhere big to put them. I have a bunch of 2tb drives laying around that I can use to build the new system and rsync the files to. Then, I can replace the drives one at a time with the new(er) drives from the current system.<br /> <br /> I've been reading about the new Linux version, and although I find BSD cumbersome to use compared to Linux and see the handwriting on the wall that it will be phased out at some point, it seems there are some serious performance losses moving to it. With a less powerfull CPU and fewere cores than I have currently, I'm afraid the best solution for me may be to stick with BSD for a while. Am I wrong on this?</div>

 

[chuck32]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 114673" data-quote="jordanthompson" data-source="post: 805689" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=805689" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-805689">jordanthompson said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I like the idea of starting fresh, but to export the pools, I'd need somewhere big to put them. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No you can just use your existing drives with your existing pool.<br /> <a href="https://www.truenas.com/docs/core/coretutorials/storage/pools/managingpools/#expand-2-Managing%20Pools" class="link link--internal">Exporting</a> is just a step to take before importing on another system.</div>

 

[jordanthompson]

<div class="bbWrapper">Any thoughts on upgrading (or not?)</div>

 

[chuck32]

<div class="bbWrapper">If it's just two jails probably stay on core. I've been running scale for a year now and while it has been stable there are a lot of bugs / issues currently.<br /> I run 6-8 VMs that's why I switched to scale.</div>

 

[Ericloewe]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 34727" data-quote="Patrick M. Hausen" data-source="post: 804896" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=804896" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-804896">Patrick M. Hausen said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> VGA *is* video. Or am I missing anything? A board completely without would need to be setup via serial console. Even IPMI connects to the video console via your browser. So I consider an assumed complete lack of video to be a valid concern.<br /> <br /> But of course more or less every server platform today still comes with VGA on board. Exception being smaller embedded devices like firewall appliances etc. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Some pre-built servers are moving to DisplayPort and I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad. I hate VGA (mostly the connector), but DisplayPort means upgrading stuff that otherwise works.</div>