Hacking WD Greens (and Reds) with WDIDLE3.exe

joeschmuck · Oct 26, 2015

Ericloewe said:
Yes, most likely.

I disagree at this point in time.

alexg said:
I purchased WD30EZRX WD-GREEN on 8/9/2015 and finally had a chance to use install it this weekend. After 14 hours of running, i only see 4 LCC. Do I still need to use WDIDLE or did WD finally changed them?

You didn't give enough information such as you could have turned the power on and off 4 times which would also increase the head load count to 4. Wait 24 hours and post all of the SMART output and I could give you a better answer. At this rate (assuming it stays constant) you would hit about 158,000 load counts in 3 years.

Jailer · Oct 26, 2015

@alexg I would at least check it and see what it's set at. If it's 8 seconds like most Greens are I'd change it.

Ericloewe · Oct 26, 2015

joeschmuck said:
I disagree at this point in time.

I imagine the low LCC is probably due to whatever workload was being used for whatever testing, though a WD Green with reasonable idle timer would be nice.

alexg · Oct 26, 2015

26 hours. Perhaps numbers are low because this drive is in my replicated pool and not my primary. Replication occurs on a nightly basis. But I also ran resilvering in the last 24 hours to replace another drive. Does anyone have a link where I can download wdidle3? All the links to WD sites are no longer get you this utility.

Code:

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       26
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       15

Jailer · Oct 26, 2015

Download Ultimate Boot CD, it's included in the hard drive utilities.

solarisguy · Oct 26, 2015

alexg said:
[...] All the links to WD sites are no longer get you this utility. [...]

joeschmuck · Oct 27, 2015

Ericloewe said:
I imagine the low LCC is probably due to whatever workload was being used for whatever testing, though a WD Green with reasonable idle timer would be nice.

I agree and I was thinking the same thing, it would be nice to see the default timer changed and maybe it has been, it would be nice to know.

@OP, you sure don't want to post too much SMART data, do you. But if your drive has been constantly busy, your LCC will go up but the question is how fast. Usage is a big factor.

@solarisguy Thanks for reposting those links, I'm sure many others will utilize them in the future.

cyberjock · Oct 27, 2015

alexg said:
2Does anyone have a link where I can download wdidle3? All the links to WD sites are no longer get you this utility.

You do realize I gave you the files as attachments in the original post?....

joeschmuck · Oct 27, 2015

cyberjock said:
You do realize I gave you the files as attachments in the original post?....

Heck, that was 11 pages or 208 postings ago. ;)

solarisguy · Oct 27, 2015

cyberjock said:
You do realize I gave you the files as attachments in the original post?....

I did...

However, I did not want to waste time questioning why he wanted WD links and not your attachments...

alexg · Oct 29, 2015

Guys, thanks for the links. I mean no disrespect, but I don't trust attachments someone posts. The LCC counts continue to grow and here is the latest full smart data (yeah, I was just trying to save you guys reading time by posting LCC data only). I will be making WDIDLE3 changes over the weekend.

Code:

smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p10 amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Green (AF, SATA 6Gb/s)
Device Model:     WDC WD30EZRX-22D8PB0
Serial Number:    WD-WCC4N4RP9AH3
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2b62b8f2b
Firmware Version: 80.00A80
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Thu Oct 29 18:28:35 2015 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                (39240) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 394) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x7035) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   253   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       96
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       399
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   122   112   000    Old_age   Always       -       28
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%        14         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         1         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Jailer · Oct 29, 2015

Yeah you better get after those drives. The LCC in my wdidle'd greens is 162 with 8372 power on hours.

anyview · Nov 12, 2015

Could anyone let me know if I can use wdidle3 for wd green 5tb ? Thanks !

solarisguy · Nov 12, 2015

@anyview, there were no reports that it does not work.

If you do, please share with us the results and the model number of your drive (date it was manufactured would be a nice addition).

Ali777 · Dec 8, 2015

I just tried adjusting the time to 300s for my new WD Green 2 Tb WD20EZRX
It works , thank you very much.

solarisguy · Dec 8, 2015

Ali777 said:
I just tried adjusting the time to 300s for my new WD Green 2 Tb WD20EZRX
It works , thank you very much.

@Ali777, when was it made? (The date it was manufactured is on the disk label.)

Ali777 · Dec 8, 2015

solarisguy said:
@Ali777, when was it made? (The date it was manufactured is on the disk label.)

11 May 2015

Ali777 · Dec 8, 2015

@solarisguy, although I'm hearing sound like water dropping from the drive
Is that normal ?
I noticed that my other hard drive that I extracted from wd mybook 1TB has the same sound, its kind of annoying sound
My Wd 1TB blue doesn't have these sounds

solarisguy · Dec 8, 2015

@Ali777, is it tap, tap, tap, tap...? All the time?

Did you hear the same sound before using wdidle3 ?!?!?!

Ali777 · Dec 8, 2015

solarisguy said:
@Ali777, is it tap, tap, tap, tap...? All the time?

Did you hear the same sound before using wdidle3 ?!?!?!

yes sounds like tap tap

actually I didn't pay much attention before using it I just checked the S.M.A.R.T it was OK

I tried to set it back to 8s, the sound disappear after the 8s

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