BUILD First build of FreeNAS box - X10SDV-4C-TLN2F

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tonysan

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Hello everyone,

This is the first time doing a FreeNAS box, I like to use standard PC component (no SFF power or some proprietary interface), I also prefer hot-swap bays, originally I was looking at Silverstone DS-380B, but it couldn't accommodate a standard power supply. Lian-Li PC-Q25B is almost perfect if it has 6 bays, and it is the current best case I've ever found.

Among the items in the wishlist, here is my still-not-finalized recipe for FreeNAS box. Before I buy anything, I would like to ask for input or if I missed something.

MB - ASRock E3C226D2I $213 SuperMicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F $700
CPU - Xeon 1220v3 $198 Xeon D 1520 SoC onboard
RAM - Samsung 32G DDR4 ECC RDIMM M393A4K40BB0-CPB $277
PSU - Seasonic 450W Gold SSR-450RM - $80
Case - Lian Li PC-Q25B $122 Fractal Design Node 304 $78
HDD - 6 x WD Red 4TB ($149 each) - $894
Boot - 2 x Sandisk Cruzer Blade $13

FreeNAS box total $2042

Additionally, Cisco SG200-08 Switch for LAN $86
UPS - APC Back-UPS BR-700G $100

Configuration would be 6-disk RAIDZ2, LACP
Will be the centralized storage (CIFS, NFS), running CrashPlan in jail, Plex transcoding to iPhone, iPad, Android device.

Any input or suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

Edit: the motherboard is probably a poor choice. I am looking at SuperMicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F right now, it has a Xeon D 1240 SoC, and it supports DDR4 ECC RAM.

Edit: Found a better case Fractal Design Node 304 - in terms of footprint, 6-disk capacity and be able to use normal form factor PSU along with ITX board.

Edit: Onboard 10Gbes are working as of FreeNAS 9.10-Stable.

Edit: the CPU should be Xeon-D 1520 instead of 1540.
 
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MB - ASRock E3C226D2I $213
RAM - 2 x Compatible 16G DDR3 ECC RAM - about $320

Red flag, there. The board only has two DIMM slots and Xeon E3 v3/v4 is limited to 8GB UDIMMs, so 32GB is absolutely impossible. RDIMMs and 16GB UDIMMs are not supported at all. ASRock has several Xeon E3 v3/v4 boards in varying sizes that do have four DIMM slots.

Edit: the motherboard is probably a poor choice. I am looking at SuperMicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F right now, it has a Xeon D 1240 SoC, and it supports DDR4 ECC RAM.
Xeon-D is a viable alternative. You can do 64GB with 16GB DDR4 UDIMMs or 128GB with DDR4 RDIMMs.
The rumor mill has suggested that Xeon E3 v5 (due later this year) will support the same memory configurations as Xeon-D, including RDIMMs. This is unconfirmed and some other parts of the rumor mill have contradicted RDIMM support. In any case, 64GB will be possible with 16GB DDR4 UDIMMs.
 

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I wonder if Xeon D 1540 is capable of handling Plex and CIFS, plus a jail running Crashplan?
 

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Definitely. Within reason, obviously.
 

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The system is almost complete, a few notes and a network problem:

1. IPMI, iKVM, and virtual media makes testing the system a breeze, no USB plugging and moving things around.

2. ALWAYS run memtest before putting it to production, found a faulty RAM and had the seller sent a replacement.

3. X10SDV-4C-TLN2F does NOT have a CPU heatsink fan, you need a 50mm fan like http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/EFB0512HA-TP42/603-1492-ND/2560616

As of FreeNAS-9.3-STABLE-201509022158, ixgbe does NOT recognize the 10GbE on the Xeon D SoC, guess it's too new. I'll probably get a dual PCI-e GbE from eBay for 15 bucks and wait for the next release. A quick search turns out I need to recompile FreeNAS kernel without ixgbe and load the latest ixgbe .ko driver. (Guess I need to file a ticket to FreeNAS / FreeBSD).

FreeNAS-10.2-ALPHA installer recognized those 10GbE, but I am having some issue installing it - the ISO9660 went missing during installation. I'd expect my NIC will be supported in FreeNAS 10.

Edit: Onboard 10Gbes are working as of FreeNAS 9.10-Stable.
 
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@hackoptic Not a problem.

Additional information:

Supermicro SNK-C0054A4L is compatible with, I presume, this series of motherboards.

Unixbench results (compiled and ran on Ubuntu), I'd say it's 80% to a Xeon 1225v2.

FreeNAS - Xeon D 1520 @2.2G - 64G DDR4 ECC Registered
ST: 1452
MT: 4542

REF: HP z220 - Xeon E3-1225v2 4C4T @3.2G, Micron 18JSF51272AZ 4G x 2 DDR3 ECC
ST: 1563
MT: 5414

REF: Dell PowerEdge R410 - Xeon E5620 4C8T @2.4G x 2, Hynix HMT351R7CFR8A 4G x 6 DDR3 ECC Registered
ST: 1073
MT: 6487

Power consumption: average around 70W, peak 120W. I did not put HDD to standby though.

Other similar builds
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/x10sdv-4c-tln4f-build.40968/
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/x10sdv-4c-tln2f-build.38208/
 
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I'm interested in the Node 304 for my eventual box to backup my main NAS. Thank you very much for the build pictures.

How are the hard drive temperatures with 6 drives?

How many, and which model fans are you using to ventilate the case?

How quiet is it when active?
 

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@Kevin Horton

I feel it's fine, plus WD Red are not that hot, I don't have the exact temperature but I'll take a look.

I use the fan comes with the case, which are 1300rpm FD-FAN-SSR2-92 x 2 (front) and 1000rpm FD-FAN-SSR2-140 (back) - if you want to change the fan without modding the case, you can only use 92mm for front fans, back should be 120mm and 140mm.



This case is nowhere near soundproof, you can hear most activity in it. Based on current build, mostly HDD noise. Fan noise is minimal.
 
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Strange. In mine, other than the occasional HDD noise (very, very slight) I'd call it virtually silent.
 

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@Kevin Horton here is the temperature...

# smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada0 | grep 'Temp\|ATTRIBUTE' && smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada1 | grep 'Temp' && smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada2 | grep 'Temp' && smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada3 | grep 'Temp' && smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada4 | grep 'Temp' && smartctl -a -d auto /dev/ada5 | grep 'Temp'
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 119 115 000 Old_age Always - 33
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 118 114 000 Old_age Always - 34
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 118 113 000 Old_age Always - 34
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 119 113 000 Old_age Always - 33
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 123 115 000 Old_age Always - 29
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 119 113 000 Old_age Always - 33
 
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Thanks for reporting the HD temperatures. They look great!
 

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I've updated all Intel NIC drivers to the most recent ones from present FreeBSD stable/10. They should be included into the next nightly build. Please try it.
 

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The issue is resolved. Now I can say:

As of FreeNAS 9.10-Stable, onboard 10Gbes are working now.
 

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Can we say that the D-1540 won't have much trouble with PMS if it's the usual x264 HD light "preset" video (~2500kbps) ?

I currently have a 1240v3 that handles anything I throw at it (x264, x265, big bitrate 1080p files) + multiple jails running teamspeak server, owncloud server, git server, transmission client, ... But I want to go smaller for my NAS, so I can't stay with a 80W CPU, I have to target maximum 45-65W so that I can move to a U-NAS case or DS380 case.

The Xeon D-1540 SoC would be perfect I guess and I wouldn't even need to worry about the CPU cooler height. I'm just worried the lost single threaded performance will show up somewhere. In multi-threaded they (D-1540, 1240v3) are equal, at least from the point of view of passmark.
 

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Can we say that the D-1540 won't have much trouble with PMS if it's the usual x264 HD light "preset" video (~2500kbps) ?

I currently have a 1240v3 that handles anything I throw at it (x264, x265, big bitrate 1080p files) + multiple jails running teamspeak server, owncloud server, git server, transmission client, ... But I want to go smaller for my NAS, so I can't stay with a 80W CPU, I have to target maximum 45-65W so that I can move to a U-NAS case or DS380 case.

The Xeon D-1540 SoC would be perfect I guess and I wouldn't even need to worry about the CPU cooler height. I'm just worried the lost single threaded performance will show up somewhere. In multi-threaded they (D-1540, 1240v3) are equal, at least from the point of view of passmark.


Hi @kriegalex:

Sorry there is a typo, this board is a Xeon D 1520, not 1540.

PMS, if you mean Plex Media Server:

Correct me if I am wrong - I think most devices support streaming x.264/h.264 directly, so there should be minimal transcoding load on the CPU.

For now, Xeon D 1520 handle everything just fine for me. I have a Plex jail and a phpVirtualBox jail running VM.

It spits out uncompressed bluray rip directly to my PC, and downgrade to around ~6Mbps on an iPhone 6S. I don't know how much heavy lifting it did other than burn-in the subtitle though.

This is the CPU / sysLoad graph when I was watching uncompressed bluray rip at original quality. Hope this helps.

http://imgur.com/xYcqgVJ
 
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