Comments on: FreeNAS 9.3 Released https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/ Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:37:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Michael Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5114 Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:51:14 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5114 In reply to Josh.

Note that the FreeNAS operating system resides on a separate device from the storage pool and that the pool is portable between installations and even ZFS-compatible operating systems. So yes, your data should be safe and yes, you should be able to upgrade from FreeNAS 9.1.1 to later 9.* versions.

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By: Michael Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5113 Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:33:41 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5113 In reply to Rick.

ZFS is quite memory-intensive compared to other file systems but as a trade off provides far more integrity safeguards than most file systems.

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By: Michael Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5112 Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:31:56 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5112 In reply to Dmitry.

That is adequate RAM for FreeNAS and the RAM usage by the jails will be determined entirely what software you run in them.

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By: Michael Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5111 Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:25:45 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5111 In reply to Paul.

Yes. Comments are moderated to keep SPAM down. Sorry about the delay.

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By: Michael Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5110 Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:53:57 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5110 In reply to AXEL SCHANZ.

You can direct the output to a serial port: Settings: Advanced: Serial Port…

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By: Seth https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5109 Thu, 06 Aug 2015 16:40:29 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5109 In reply to Nick M..

Hi Nick,
How exactly did you configure Clover to boot FREENAS? I can’t seem to force Clover to see it, and the documentation for Clover is rather light.
TIA,
Seth

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By: jkh https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5108 Fri, 03 Jul 2015 19:10:27 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5108 In reply to Deonast.

You can still use UFS as a filesystem on some external device, just not as your “main file store” because FreeNAS is trying to provide for *reliable* file storage, and UFS provides no redundancy or self-healing features. You can also, for that matter, format a single drive as a ZFS filesystem if you simply wish to copy files over as a last-ditch DR strategy – that’s easy to do from the UI even. Just create another pool on your external drive, replicate your data from a snapshot over to it, then detach it. Done! You don’t need UFS.

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By: Paul https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5107 Fri, 05 Jun 2015 04:20:03 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5107 That’s odd I commented in Firefox nothing appeared on page. Tried again through Chrome and I get a message about a duplicate comment, but I see nothing here of my comment. Do you guys have to approve them before posting. It would be good if the leave comment area mentioned that. So does that mean you wasn’t post my earlier comment?

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By: Deonast https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5106 Sun, 31 May 2015 02:35:50 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5106 Sorry if this is a double post, just wasn’t sure if there is a delay on posting comments.

I was shocked when I saw this in your installation notes “UFS is no longer supported” hence I’m still stuck on 9.2
Just thought I’d ask if there was any chance you guys would reconsider killing off r/w UFS support (I’m fine with it not being used for booting) but killing it off leaves me with no viable backup options. Unless you can suggest a way you can format disks as ZFS and mount them similar to what you can do for a UFS drive.
Basically I hook drives via a caddy directly via SATA to my storage server. I then use scripts to mount those UFS drives (2 drives one after the other is my weekly backup, via two scripts). eg

mkdir /mnt/BackupDrive
mount -t ufs /dev/da6p1 /mnt/BackupDrive

Then I rsync to the mounted drive which gives me good speed.
I chose UFS as I seemed to have issues with NTFS and I knew I could restore from that format on windows (via drivers) or ubuntu in the event of catastrophe. Drives are kept off site.
From my discussions on the forms and after reading your release notes it appears 9.3 has only read support I guess just so data can be migrated.
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/freenas-9-3-and-ufs-mounting-support.25964/
So if I can’t use UFS for backups, I don’t have another system that I can realistically rsync everything to and backup from there and replicating data to another instance of freenas (just for offsite backups) isn’t practical. May I ask how do I backup all my data.
Surely others must have this issue too. A google on the web and I see stupid suggestions like removing a drive from the array as a back which isn’t and degrades the array redundancy.
I’m no ZFS expert, can you advise is there a way to format a drive to ZFS and mount it like I used to with UFS but not have it in a pool. Since I have drives of different sizes in my backup sets and they need to be added and removed each backup I can’t see how a ZFS pool would be helpful for backups in my scenario.
Sadly I’ve only been using FreeNAS for 5 months and I now wonder if I need to look into another platform.
Anything you can advise would be appreciated.

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By: AXEL SCHANZ https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5105 Sat, 09 May 2015 04:38:39 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5105 Is there a way to install Freenas without using a monitor? I’m using a xeon processor which won’t do graphics and the only pci slot on the mobo is being used for the HDD controller.

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5104 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 23:42:10 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5104 In reply to Silvia.

I would advise you to upgrade the RAM and USB drive to 8GB before updating.

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By: Silvia https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5103 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 20:50:47 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5103 I have a Freenas 9.2.0 running with two raid1 (1T and 4T). It runs on a pendrive with 4Gb and 4Gb of Ram. If I upgrade to the Freenas 9.3, will this configuration run?

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5102 Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:26:04 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5102 In reply to Dexter.

The RAID setup happens using the volume manager after you perform the FreeNAS install.

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By: Dexter https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5101 Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:48:04 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5101 I am new to freenas.I am installing 9.3 and i have four 1 TB drives.Do i need to setup raid or wait until I have installed the program?

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By: Josh https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5100 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 03:18:47 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5100 This will be the first time I’ve ever upgraded, and I’m a bit nervous. So, my questions are:
1. I believe my drives are in a software raid 0 +1 configuration, will my data be safe?
2. Can I upgrade from 9.1.1 to 9.3?

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5099 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 05:09:00 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5099 In reply to Kyle.

Whether upgrading, or performing a fresh install and importing the old configuration, the end result is the same: the filesystem will be ZFS root.

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By: Kyle https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5098 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 04:17:59 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5098 When upgrading to 9.2.X to 9.3, does the root file system get converted to ZFS, or is this only supported on a clean install?

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By: Nick M. https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5097 Sun, 11 Jan 2015 22:44:33 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5097 In reply to Brett Davis.

The workaround wasn’t usable as my issue is picky BIOS. I have gone through all possible configurations and found no solution there.
However, with Clover Bootloader, it turned out to be a simple UEFI boot extension. Some users booting from USB may not like having a second USB boot device, but in simple fact, it works and works well. This should work for all systems that refuse to boot from the new GPT/ZFS boot format.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cloverefiboot/

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By: Pascal https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5096 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 20:27:32 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5096 Just for anyone who is wondering: After upgrading from 9.2.1.5 to 9.3 `zpool upgrade` tells me that there are three ZFS features I can get for upgrading my zpools to the newest version: embedded_data, filesystem_limits and large_blocks.

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5095 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:49:59 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5095 In reply to Nick M..

It seems odd that a motherboard that recent would insist on MBR booting, but ASUS has indeed been an inconsistent motherboard manufacturer when it comes to implementing — and sticking to — standards.
If you’re experiencing a mountroot problem, here is a workaround from the forum that might help: https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/workaround-semi-fix-for-mountroot-issues-with-9-3.26071/
If that doesn’t work, I’d look to toggling BIOS settings related to USB booting, if available.

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By: Nick M. https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5094 Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:02:32 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5094 Is there any workaround for those of us with picky hardware that refuses to boot from GPT, and demands MBR? My hardware isn’t even a month old, but Asus isn’t being cooperative.

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5093 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 21:07:11 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5093 In reply to Chris B..

The “direct extraction” method of installing FreeNAS is no longer available since FreeNAS now takes advantage of the full capacity of the install media with ZFS. One of the reasons FreeNAS uses ZFS for the boot volume is to support “clones” of the boot volume itself as a failsafe in the case of a misconfiguration or bad upgrade. As a result, FreeNAS now requires scripts to be run at install time, which is not possible with the direct extraction method.
If you don’t have a CD drive available, the ISO image can now be directly copied to another USB drive (not the one for boot) and booted to provide the same installer experience as the CD installer. This is the recommended install method when a CD drive is not available.
Here is a link to the documentation regarding the install for 9.3:
http://doc.freenas.org/9.3/freenas_install.html
And, the release notes contain a clearer discussion of the boot and install features:
http://download.freenas.org/9.3/STABLE/201412301712/ReleaseNotes
I smell a new FAQ item coming…

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By: Chris B. https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5092 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:30:06 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5092 Where is the image file located for 9.3 so i can extract straight to usb?
Thanks in advance

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5091 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:35:19 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5091 In reply to fraser.

If it worked with previous versions of FreeNAS, then it will also work with FreeNAS 9.3. Of course, I’d recommend using it in “JBOD” (pass-through) mode to take full advantage of ZFS by letting FreeNAS handle the RAID.

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By: fraser https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5090 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:57:17 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5090 Can I use freenas 9.3 with my highpoint rocket raid 2720?

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5089 Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:33:35 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5089 In reply to stefano.

8GB is recommended. Fundamentally, some ZFS features (like prefetch) will even be disabled with less than 6GB of RAM. In some cases you might be ok with 4GB, and in others 8GB could even be far too little. For example, if it’s a use case like “Bob” describes above with a single 1TB drive, you could be fine, but at the end of the day, we recommend 8GB because it’s the minimum that we test and can therefore stand behind. Using less than 8GB is an “at your own risk” adventure and not recommended or supported. We plan on releasing a blog regarding this topic soon. Stay tuned!

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5088 Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:23:10 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5088 In reply to Bob.

Unofficially: I’d think you’d be ok in this scenario.
Officially: this isn’t something we have tested.

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By: Bob https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5087 Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:45:31 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5087 is 4GB of ram ok if I plan on running just one 1TB drive without any redundancy?

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By: Dmitry https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5086 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:03:53 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5086 In reply to Brett Davis.

I have 10 GB RAM and lot’s of jails. How can I be sure that this amount of RAM is sufficient?

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By: stefano https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5085 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:24:31 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5085 In reply to Brett Davis.

and if I have only 4 GB ? it’s a problem?

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5084 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:12:07 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5084 In reply to Dimitri.

It is, indeed.

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By: Dimitri https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5083 Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:24:56 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5083 Is the upgrade safe for my jails?

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By: Rick https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5082 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:37:57 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5082 Why does the NAS 9.3 require 8 GB ram to run? Insanity. I currently keep an old XP machine for my home server and it works really good and only has 4 GB ram…

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By: Brett Davis https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5081 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:45:41 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5081 In reply to Rob Heselwood.

Yes, the recommended minimum is 8GB RAM.

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By: Rob Heselwood https://www.truenas.com/blog/freenas-9-3-released-2/#comment-5080 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:57:25 +0000 http://web.freenas.org/whats-new/?p=805#comment-5080 Is the latest version the 64bit version for more than 4gb of ram?
Regards
Rob

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